2017 Nets Offseason Thread II

[Rockice_24]

If Porter is matched as presumed, take on a small salary dump for a 1st and max out Cousins or Norman Powell next summer.

DeMarcus Cousins?

One can dream big, can't one?

My ideal plan was Porter this year and Cousins next

Russell, Levert, Porter, RHJ, Cousins.

Just need Was to stop messing with my plans and let him walk.

If WAS wants to mess that up fine we'll just move Lin for a 1st at the deadline and have 2 max spaces next year. Westbrook will opt out after George leaves for LA and Westbrook comes to BK to pair with Cousins and we have

Westbrook, Russell, Levert, RHJ, Cousins.

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[Prokorov]

DeMarcus Cousins?

One can dream big, can't one?

My ideal plan was Porter this year and Cousins next

Russell, Levert, Porter, RHJ, Cousins.

Just need Was to stop messing with my plans and let him walk.

If WAS wants to mess that up fine we'll just move Lin for a 1st at the deadline and have 2 max spaces next year. Westbrook will opt out after George leaves for LA and Westbrook comes to BK to pair with Cousins and we have

Westbrook, Russell, Levert, RHJ, Cousins.

i hope washington matches so we can get westbrook and cousins

[Prokorov]

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i wonder what his asking price is. i like him but beyond 12 million i start to want to pass.

[MrDollarBills]

If Porter is matched as presumed, take on a small salary dump for a 1st and max out Cousins or Norman Powell next summer.

DeMarcus Cousins?

One can dream big, can't one?

don't do this to yourself. you're lucky we were even able to get Russell

[MrDollarBills]

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He'd be a perfect addition. I hope we can land him, but i'm doubtful. we never really get guys that we want

[Mkdaman1818]

Don't we only have around $8-10 million with the otto offer sheet?

[Karate Diop]

Don't we only have around $8-10 million with the otto offer sheet?

Not sure, but the Nets could be negotiating with the presumption Wizards will match and essentially tell Kelly and his agent that if Washington matches Porter - and you're willing to wait until then - we'll offer you $X million dollars - which we can't offer you right now because it's tied up in the Porter offer sheet.

[Mkdaman1818]

Don't we only have around $8-10 million with the otto offer sheet?

Not sure, but the Nets could be negotiating with the presumption Wizards will match and essentially tell Kelly and his agent that if Washington matches Porter - and you're willing to wait until then - we'll offer you $X million dollars - which we can't offer you right now because it's tied up in the Porter offer sheet.

Not sure Olynyk would wait until then, considering that other teams are pursuing him. Hopefully marks has something up his sleeve...

[Karate Diop]

Don't we only have around $8-10 million with the otto offer sheet?

Not sure, but the Nets could be negotiating with the presumption Wizards will match and essentially tell Kelly and his agent that if Washington matches Porter - and you're willing to wait until then - we'll offer you $X million dollars - which we can't offer you right now because it's tied up in the Porter offer sheet.

Not sure Olynyk would wait until then, considering that other teams are pursuing him. Hopefully marks has something up his sleeve...

Yep, depends entirely on how negotiations go with the other teams he speaks to. Sometimes role players take longer to come to terms since the value of every penny / year is worth much more to them...

[vincecarter4pres]

Not sure, but the Nets could be negotiating with the presumption Wizards will match and essentially tell Kelly and his agent that if Washington matches Porter - and you're willing to wait until then - we'll offer you $X million dollars - which we can't offer you right now because it's tied up in the Porter offer sheet.

Not sure Olynyk would wait until then, considering that other teams are pursuing him. Hopefully marks has something up his sleeve...

Yep, depends entirely on how negotiations go with the other teams he speaks to. Sometimes role players take longer to come to terms since the value of every penny / year is worth much more to them...

Well the thing is, most teams who are interested also need to shed salary to sign him to a market value deal, so that will buy us some time.

[moonpie]

Olynyk only averaged 20 minutes a game last year. Small sample size, but here are some stats filtered when he played at least 28 minutes (12 games):

15.5 PPG
6.7 RPG
2.9 APG
58.5% FG (avg 10.3 attempts per)
38.8% 3PT (avg 4.1 attempts per)
82.1% FT (avg 2.3 attempts per)
68.7% TS%
1.5 turnovers
3.7 fouls
30.8 MPG

[Ror1997]

Its brook lopez in a wig

[vincecarter4pres]

If Porter is matched as presumed, take on a small salary dump for a 1st and max out Cousins or Norman Powell next summer.

Norman Powell? Max? What?

Eh it could happen lol. We offered Allen Crabbe ridiculous money, Porter the max, maybe KCP. Max might be a bit much, but that dude can flatout ball. I think he'll beast this year in an expanded role with bigger minutes. I can see something silly like 4/85+ for him.

In his second season he put up 16/4/2 on super efficiency in 18 games as a starter, in 32mpg on medium usage and he has a great all around game.

I can definitely see him as a target next summer.

[vincecarter4pres]

I agree, im not a fan of that trade... however i think thats what a trade would look like if marks wants porter here.

im cool with faried if an asset is attached but otherwise we are spending 20 million on faried and booker to sit the bench behind RHJ. if we can give them booker for faried im ok with that swap. that would shed 1 year off faried for them

I don't see that at all. $42+ million a season for Porter is lunacy. And giving up Rondae in the process?

That's some Billy King ****.

it all depends on how high marks is on porter. this isnt something im suggesting, just the kind of deal i can see going down if marks really thinks porter is better then KCP or other options.

I think this is the price the wizards would require not to match, and if we said no they would just match.

I have to really disagree here, just on how it might even go down, unless Marks and Kenny think he's like prime Granger waiting to happen minimum and even then it's crazy.

This is completely different then the Russell Mozgov trade. In that one Russell is still on 2 years rookie scale and his extension only combines for 1 year of Mozgov's salary. And at least Mozgov is serviceable. And Russell is already ahead of where Porter is overall and has huge potential, even if the chance of hitting his ultimate ceiling is low and a reasonable ceiling is medium.

Mahinmi is possibly the worst contract in all of basketball. He can't even get on the court, his knees are basically toast.
Porter is coming on an immediate $25 million salary attached to him.

I cannot see any GM in their right mind no matter the circumstances even dreaming of offering something like that.

[Prokorov]

I don't see that at all. $42+ million a season for Porter is lunacy. And giving up Rondae in the process?

That's some Billy King ****.

it all depends on how high marks is on porter. this isnt something im suggesting, just the kind of deal i can see going down if marks really thinks porter is better then KCP or other options.

I think this is the price the wizards would require not to match, and if we said no they would just match.

I have to really disagree here, just on how it might even go down, unless Marks and Kenny think he's like prime Granger waiting to happen minimum and even then it's crazy.

This is completely different then the Russell Mozgov trade. In that one Russell is still on 2 years rookie scale and his extension only combines for 1 year of Mozgov's salary. And at least Mozgov is serviceable. And Russell is already ahead of where Porter is overall and has huge potential, even if the chance of hitting his ultimate ceiling is low and a reasonable ceiling is medium.

Mahinmi is possibly the worst contract in all of basketball. He can't even get on the court, his knees are basically toast.
Porter is coming on an immediate $25 million salary attached to him.

I cannot see any GM in their right mind no matter the circumstances even dreaming of offering something like that.

yeah i mean i would hope so... but then again to me just maxing porter is insane. i dont know what marks thinks of porter. does he see him as a future star?

[Prokorov]

Don't we only have around $8-10 million with the otto offer sheet?

Not sure, but the Nets could be negotiating with the presumption Wizards will match and essentially tell Kelly and his agent that if Washington matches Porter - and you're willing to wait until then - we'll offer you $X million dollars - which we can't offer you right now because it's tied up in the Porter offer sheet.

we have like 8 million... but we can make that 11 if we cut goodwin and skil

[Prokorov]

Don't we only have around $8-10 million with the otto offer sheet?

Not sure, but the Nets could be negotiating with the presumption Wizards will match and essentially tell Kelly and his agent that if Washington matches Porter - and you're willing to wait until then - we'll offer you $X million dollars - which we can't offer you right now because it's tied up in the Porter offer sheet.

Not sure Olynyk would wait until then, considering that other teams are pursuing him. Hopefully marks has something up his sleeve...

it would be dumb for him not to wait. why would you want to remove an interested team with the most money to spend and take them out of a bidding war?

his agent would advise otherwise

[vincecarter4pres]

it all depends on how high marks is on porter. this isnt something im suggesting, just the kind of deal i can see going down if marks really thinks porter is better then KCP or other options.

I think this is the price the wizards would require not to match, and if we said no they would just match.

I have to really disagree here, just on how it might even go down, unless Marks and Kenny think he's like prime Granger waiting to happen minimum and even then it's crazy.

This is completely different then the Russell Mozgov trade. In that one Russell is still on 2 years rookie scale and his extension only combines for 1 year of Mozgov's salary. And at least Mozgov is serviceable. And Russell is already ahead of where Porter is overall and has huge potential, even if the chance of hitting his ultimate ceiling is low and a reasonable ceiling is medium.

Mahinmi is possibly the worst contract in all of basketball. He can't even get on the court, his knees are basically toast.
Porter is coming on an immediate $25 million salary attached to him.

I cannot see any GM in their right mind no matter the circumstances even dreaming of offering something like that.

yeah i mean i would hope so... but then again to me just maxing porter is insane. i dont know what marks thinks of porter. does he see him as a future star?

Idk if he sees him as a future star, but $41 to $45 million a year for Porter is bananas lol. Cause that's what it is at that point, figuring how reportedly shot Mahinmi's knees are supposed to be.

I guess the hope is a medical retirement after this year, insurance picks up most the coin and he comes off the cap.

[Prokorov]

Its brook lopez in a wig

dont forget the chin pubes