Political Roundtable Part XIX

gtn130 · Post #1561 » by **gtn130** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:44 pm

nate33 wrote:This whole premise is so unbelievable that I can't even believe I'm having this conversation with otherwise rational, intelligent people.

Basically, you will dismiss any logical refutation of your argument by simply saying "he is an idiot so he must have done it". That is your intellectual foundation for removing the duly elected president of the United States.

Dude you've defended Info Wars, shared literal fake news on multiple occasions and dabbled in pseudoscience phrenology to boot. Spare us with your steely-eyed call for RATIONAL and LOGICAL argumentation

gtn130 · Post #1562 » by **gtn130** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:45 pm

Nate is basically Sebastian Gorka

cammac · Post #1563 » by **cammac** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:48 pm

nate33 wrote:
cammac wrote:
nate33 wrote:This whole premise is so unbelievable that I can't even believe I'm having this conversation with otherwise rational, intelligent people.

Basically, you will dismiss any logical refutation of your argument by simply saying "he is an idiot so he must have done it". That is your intellectual foundation for removing the duly elected president of the United States.

Similar to Clinton being impeached by Republicans for getting a BJ and lying about it!
Nate you know Trump is guilty as hell!
STOP the BS.

Guilty as hell of what? Name the crime.

Obstruction of Justice with Comey to start!
Sexual assault!
Just to start obviously Mueller runs a tight ship but likely much much more.

Post #1564 » by **Zonkerbl** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:53 pm

Nate go back through the thread and read the list of crimes. Don't be so gatdamn lazy. For someone who claims to be the intellectual superior of everyone on this board your reading comprehension sucks.

Post #1565 » by **Zonkerbl** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:57 pm

Trump is an idiot who thinks he can get away with the same illegal behavior as President that he got away with as a billionaire.

Simple enough for you? I can dumb it down more if necessary.

For a rational, intelligent person, it's horrifying just how much pus and rot is being exposed by the Mueller investigation. If all billionaires are this casually felonious maybe we should just put them all in jail as a precautionary measure.

gtn130 · Post #1566 » by **gtn130** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:57 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:Nate go back through the thread and read the list of crimes. Don't be so gatdamn lazy. For someone who claims to be the intellectual superior of everyone on this board your reading comprehension sucks.

Yeah his basic strategy is to keep his head in the sand regarding any Trump wrongdoing and then be like SEE GUYS THERE'S NOTHING HERE YOU GUYS ARE SO CONSPIRATORIAL AND IRRATIONAL.

Like yea if you ignore everything Trump has ever done, he's done nothing wrong. I agree!

cammac · Post #1567 » by **cammac** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:14 pm

Last night, Rachel Maddow released a hard copy of what she called Mueller’s “Preservation Notice” — an email sent to top DOJ, folks such as AG Sessions’ top aide, among others, on what documents needed to be preserved and handed over to his team.

It demanded everything about the Comey firing — texts, emails, voice mails, building surveillance video, key cards, appointment logs, conference room reservations, and on and on. In a related story, the Notice also demanded all documents pertaining to Russia.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/12/1756369/-Maddow-Exclusive-Mueller-s-Preservation-Notice-to-Top-DOJ-Included-Everything-on-Comey-Firing

Post #1568 » by **nate33** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:22 pm

cammac wrote:
nate33 wrote:
cammac wrote:
Similar to Clinton being impeached by Republicans for getting a BJ and lying about it!
Nate you know Trump is guilty as hell!
STOP the BS.

Guilty as hell of what? Name the crime.

Obstruction of Justice with Comey to start!
Sexual assault!
Just to start obviously Mueller runs a tight ship but likely much much more.

Obstruction of justice for what crime?

Post #1569 » by **nate33** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:24 pm

cammac wrote:
nate33 wrote:
cammac wrote:
Similar to Clinton being impeached by Republicans for getting a BJ and lying about it!
Nate you know Trump is guilty as hell!
STOP the BS.

Guilty as hell of what? Name the crime.

Obstruction of Justice with Comey to start!
Sexual assault!
Just to start obviously Mueller runs a tight ship but likely much much more.

Sexual assault? When did that happen? What proof do you have? An illegally taped conversation 12 years ago when he said "grab them by the pussy"? A statement that was known to the voters when they voted for him. You're going to impeach the duly elected President of the United States for that?

cammac · Post #1570 » by **cammac** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:26 pm

nate33 wrote:
cammac wrote:
nate33 wrote:Guilty as hell of what? Name the crime.

Obstruction of Justice with Comey to start!
Sexual assault!
Just to start obviously Mueller runs a tight ship but likely much much more.

Sexual assault? When did that happen? What proof do you have? An illegally taped conversation 12 years ago when he said "grab them by the pussy"? A statement that was known to the voters when they voted for him. You're going to impeach the duly elected President of the United States for that?

12 women would disagree!

gtn130 · Post #1571 » by **gtn130** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:27 pm

Obstruction of justice for what crime?
Obstruction of justice for what crime?
Obstruction of justice for what crime?
Obstruction of justice for what crime?
Obstruction of justice for what crime?
Obstruction of justice for what crime?
Obstruction of justice for what crime?
Obstruction of justice for what crime?

Thanks for stopping by, Nate

cammac · Post #1572 » by **cammac** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:29 pm

nate33 wrote:
cammac wrote:
nate33 wrote:Guilty as hell of what? Name the crime.

Obstruction of Justice with Comey to start!
Sexual assault!
Just to start obviously Mueller runs a tight ship but likely much much more.

Obstruction of justice for what crime?

Comey!
Plus took Ken Starr 4 years to get something on Clinton!
Right now Mueller has had a number of indictments and guilty pleas!

Post #1573 » by **Zonkerbl** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:30 pm

nate33 wrote:
cammac wrote:
nate33 wrote:Guilty as hell of what? Name the crime.

Obstruction of Justice with Comey to start!
Sexual assault!
Just to start obviously Mueller runs a tight ship but likely much much more.

Obstruction of justice for what crime?

Are you really that obtuse? For someone who claims to be the intellectual superior of everyone on this board, how can you write a sentence like this?

PAUL MANAFORT. MICHAEL FLYNN. Trump threatened to shut down - WHILE IN OFFICE - an investigation that was looking into, among other things, the behavior of two heinous criminals who have been indicted for DOZENS of felonies.

Really Nate? Really?

https://www.justice.gov/file/1038391/download

The sheer scale of intentional ignorance necessary to be unaware of the colossal volume of crimes uncovered by the investigation Trump illegally tried to block is ASTOUNDING.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/12/01/four-people-charged-so-far-russia-investigation/906920001/

gtn130 · Post #1574 » by **gtn130** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:35 pm

Obstruction of justice, in United States jurisdictions, is the crime of obstructing prosecutors or other (usually government) officials.

"For what crime?" isn't a relevant question even if Alan Derpowitz asks it a lot on Fox News.

Post #1575 » by **nate33** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:01 pm

Comey was out of control, investigating Trump's cabinet members for the violation of the freaking Logan Act DURING THE TRANSITION. The whole scenario was absurd and you guys would be outraged if the FBI attacked Obama's senior staff in the same way for doing perfectly normal things during the Transition.

Trump supervises Comey. Rosenstein instructed Trump that Comey should be fired because of this overreach so Trump fired him.

Trump also fired Comey for lying to Trump about the subject of whether or not Trump was under investigation.

Comey was incompetent and out of control. He doesn't get permanent job security by opening an investigation of his boss.

Wizardspride · Post #1576 » by **Wizardspride** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:12 pm

Read on Twitter

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Read on Twitter

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gtn130 · Post #1577 » by **gtn130** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:17 pm

nate33 wrote:Comey was out of control, investigating Trump's cabinet members for the violation of the freaking Logan Act DURING THE TRANSITION. The whole scenario was absurd and you guys would be outraged if the FBI attacked Obama's senior staff in the same way for doing perfectly normal things during the Transition.

You can argue it's no big deal all you want, but Mike Flynn then lied to investigators about it. Clearly he thought it was a big enough deal that he should cover it up and further his risk exposure.

nate33 wrote:Trump supervises Comey. Rosenstein instructed Trump that Comey should be fired because of this overreach so Trump fired him.

LOL

"On May 8, I learned that President Trump intended to remove Director Comey and sought my advice and input." - Rod Rosenstein.

And more importantly - Trump said on TV that he fired Comey over the Russia investigation!!!!

nate33 wrote:Trump also fired Comey for lying to Trump about the subject of whether or not Trump was under investigation.

Again, Trump openly admitted on national TV that he fired Comey over the Russia investigation.

nate33 wrote:Comey was incompetent and out of control. He doesn't get permanent job security by opening an investigation of his boss.

FBI directors are appointed to 10 year terms, and Comey's firing was the second time in history that an FBI director has been fired.

cammac · Post #1578 » by **cammac** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:24 pm

nate33 wrote:Comey was out of control, investigating Trump's cabinet members for the violation of the freaking Logan Act DURING THE TRANSITION. The whole scenario was absurd and you guys would be outraged if the FBI attacked Obama's senior staff in the same way for doing perfectly normal things during the Transition.

Trump supervises Comey. Rosenstein instructed Trump that Comey should be fired because of this overreach so Trump fired him.

Trump also fired Comey for lying to Trump about the subject of whether or not Trump was under investigation.

Comey was incompetent and out of control. He doesn't get permanent job security by opening an investigation of his boss.

Donald Trump wasn't his boss his boss was the DOJ and the FBI should be looking at all criminality! Good only knows the Repugnant have dragged on the Clinton file for what seems like eternity. But then again she is a Democrat!!!!!

Post #1579 » by **nate33** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:24 pm

Wizardspride wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Read on Twitter
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It wouldn't have mattered. Nobody voted for Trump based on his good character earlier in life. Everyone knows he was a cad who slept around, cheated on his wife and banged hot chicks left and right.

The days of the double standard are over. Nobody is going to listen to liberals get preachy about the character flaws of conservatives while ignoring the character flaws of liberals. Conservatives are no longer going to play by a different set of rules.

Wizardspride · Post #1580 » by **Wizardspride** » Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:27 pm

nate33 wrote:
Wizardspride wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=20

Read on Twitter
?s=20

It wouldn't have mattered. Nobody voted for Trump based on his good character earlier in life. Everyone knows he was a cad who slept around, cheated on his wife and banged hot chicks left and right.

The days of the double standard are over. Nobody is going to listen to liberals get preachy about the character flaws of conservatives while ignoring the character flaws of liberals. Conservatives are no longer going to play by a different set of rules.

Ok...