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Political Roundtable Part XXI

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXI 

Post#1561 » by Ruzious » Thu Aug 9, 2018 6:23 pm

stilldropin20 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:It's pretty clear that the good old days to people like Ingraham refer to the pre civil rights movement days - if not pre Civil War days.


what about going back to a time when the USA dominated the globe in manufacturing, banking, trade, education, quality of life and opportunity...BUT...this time around making sure everyone feels an equality of inclusion and enjoyment. women, minorities, LBGTQ, Everyone feels good about the USA dominating those things and raising the bar for ALL americans. . Back to a time when less murders were committed? Back to a time when people were nicer to each other on the street? :dontknow: doesn't sound like a bad idea to me?

As far as Ingraham, she may pander to the religious right of her audience from time to time (and you would too with money on the line) but still...she adopted a daughter out of poverty from guatamala and extensively dated Dinesh D'souza and actively supports minorities of both liberal and conservative backgrounds on her show(s) (which include one of the top rated shows in prime time and 3 hours of radio every day) giving them a platform to launch their careers. Hardly the acts of a racist.

And yet, it's clear from her comments that she's a racist. What a conundrum!

I'm sure you could find nice things here and there that the worst people in history did for various minorities. it's like playing a worthless game to rationalize the unjustifiable.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXI 

Post#1562 » by JWizmentality » Thu Aug 9, 2018 6:55 pm

Ruzious wrote:
stilldropin20 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:It's pretty clear that the good old days to people like Ingraham refer to the pre civil rights movement days - if not pre Civil War days.


what about going back to a time when the USA dominated the globe in manufacturing, banking, trade, education, quality of life and opportunity...BUT...this time around making sure everyone feels an equality of inclusion and enjoyment. women, minorities, LBGTQ, Everyone feels good about the USA dominating those things and raising the bar for ALL americans. . Back to a time when less murders were committed? Back to a time when people were nicer to each other on the street? :dontknow: doesn't sound like a bad idea to me?

As far as Ingraham, she may pander to the religious right of her audience from time to time (and you would too with money on the line) but still...she adopted a daughter out of poverty from guatamala and extensively dated Dinesh D'souza and actively supports minorities of both liberal and conservative backgrounds on her show(s) (which include one of the top rated shows in prime time and 3 hours of radio every day) giving them a platform to launch their careers. Hardly the acts of a racist.

And yet, it's clear from her comments that she's a racist. What a conundrum!

I'm sure you could find nice things here and there that the worst people in history did for various minorities. it's like playing a worthless game to rationalize the unjustifiable.


SD20 wants civil America. Voted Trump. :lol:
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXI 

Post#1563 » by GhostofChenier » Thu Aug 9, 2018 7:49 pm

Ruzious wrote:
stilldropin20 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:It's pretty clear that the good old days to people like Ingraham refer to the pre civil rights movement days - if not pre Civil War days.


what about going back to a time when the USA dominated the globe in manufacturing, banking, trade, education, quality of life and opportunity...BUT...this time around making sure everyone feels an equality of inclusion and enjoyment. women, minorities, LBGTQ, Everyone feels good about the USA dominating those things and raising the bar for ALL americans. . Back to a time when less murders were committed? Back to a time when people were nicer to each other on the street? :dontknow: doesn't sound like a bad idea to me?

As far as Ingraham, she may pander to the religious right of her audience from time to time (and you would too with money on the line) but still...she adopted a daughter out of poverty from guatamala and extensively dated Dinesh D'souza and actively supports minorities of both liberal and conservative backgrounds on her show(s) (which include one of the top rated shows in prime time and 3 hours of radio every day) giving them a platform to launch their careers. Hardly the acts of a racist.

And yet, it's clear from her comments that she's a racist. What a conundrum!

I'm sure you could find nice things here and there that the worst people in history did for various minorities. it's like playing a worthless game to rationalize the unjustifiable.


U hillary peeps uze racism as weapon againzt all who disahree with you. Ne color sex or lgbt if they uze diff opinion u say RACIZT so u do not half to debate.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXI 

Post#1564 » by dckingsfan » Thu Aug 9, 2018 8:03 pm

stilldropin20 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Back to a time when less murders were committed?

Playing a worthless game to rationalize...

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXI 

Post#1565 » by Ruzious » Thu Aug 9, 2018 8:11 pm

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Ruzious wrote:And yet, it's clear from her comments that she's a racist. What a conundrum!

I'm sure you could find nice things here and there that the worst people in history did for various minorities. it's like playing a worthless game to rationalize the unjustifiable.


U hillary peeps uze racism as weapon againzt all who disahree with you. Ne color sex or lgbt if they uze diff opinion u say RACIZT so u do not half to debate.

Whatever country you're from, maybe some day you'll learn English and even become a US citizen. Dream big!
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXI 

Post#1566 » by dckingsfan » Thu Aug 9, 2018 8:41 pm

Ruzious wrote:
GhostofChenier wrote:
Ruzious wrote:And yet, it's clear from her comments that she's a racist. What a conundrum!

I'm sure you could find nice things here and there that the worst people in history did for various minorities. it's like playing a worthless game to rationalize the unjustifiable.

U hillary peeps uze racism as weapon againzt all who disahree with you. Ne color sex or lgbt if they uze diff opinion u say RACIZT so u do not half to debate.

Whatever country you're from, maybe some day you'll learn English and even become a US citizen. Dream big!

Sometimes he is hard to understand, so let me help Ruz and translate his gibberish:
Hillary understands racism and had policies that would work for all - Trump is racist and sexist.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXI 

Post#1567 » by pancakes3 » Thu Aug 9, 2018 9:14 pm

why trip over yourself to defend someone who says that demographic shifts in the population (that they didn't vote for? wtf?) is giving the incumbent demographic anxiety?

again, you can stand steadfast in your political beliefs without agreeing with everyone who is nominally a part of your party. you get to have a spine and say "wow, that's f*cked up" some of the time without losing your ideological credibility.

like, i get how it may be intellectually easier to lump people into two boxes that are diametrically opposed to each other - but it's even easier to lump people into one giant box of just "people."
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXI 

Post#1568 » by Ruzious » Thu Aug 9, 2018 9:47 pm

Lol that Trumps in-laws just became US citizens through the "chain migration" program - a program Trump has forcefully said needs to be stopped. He left out the part - "except for my relatives". We can now expect him to say - Ok, now that they're citizens, let's make what they did illegal for everyone else.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXI 

Post#1569 » by stilldropin20 » Thu Aug 9, 2018 10:50 pm

JWizmentality wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
stilldropin20 wrote:
what about going back to a time when the USA dominated the globe in manufacturing, banking, trade, education, quality of life and opportunity...BUT...this time around making sure everyone feels an equality of inclusion and enjoyment. women, minorities, LBGTQ, Everyone feels good about the USA dominating those things and raising the bar for ALL americans. . Back to a time when less murders were committed? Back to a time when people were nicer to each other on the street? :dontknow: doesn't sound like a bad idea to me?

As far as Ingraham, she may pander to the religious right of her audience from time to time (and you would too with money on the line) but still...she adopted a daughter out of poverty from guatamala and extensively dated Dinesh D'souza and actively supports minorities of both liberal and conservative backgrounds on her show(s) (which include one of the top rated shows in prime time and 3 hours of radio every day) giving them a platform to launch their careers. Hardly the acts of a racist.

And yet, it's clear from her comments that she's a racist. What a conundrum!

I'm sure you could find nice things here and there that the worst people in history did for various minorities. it's like playing a worthless game to rationalize the unjustifiable.


SD20 wants civil America. Voted Trump. :lol:

That’s because if we can’t be civil. For example if Democrat leaders want to convince their base that everyone else in the world are racist and the base wants to believe it what can I do about it? And if the GOP wants to rile up their base to fight those empty claims by Democratic leaders and their base then what can I do about that as well? And if there still are some real and actual racists out there, what can I do?

But in the meantime I want to strong economy more jobs than people looking for jobs and wages to rise. Even if equality doesn’t appear to be on the horizon’s for the political purposes...and if the bases of both parties want to prolong the race wars because they think it helps them politically...if everyone just wants to fight and bicker with everyone else ? that’s fine I guess. Again, what can I do?

But if we are going to fight and bicker with each other anyway, let’s do so with a strong economy. When there are jobs for everyone. When wages are rising. With ue low across all races n genders.

And guess what?

Trump is getting all that done. Accomplishing all that. And yes I would symbolically vote for him in the next election. But I did not vote for him in the last one because he can’t win Illinois so I didn’t bother voting.

Hmmmm?

Maybe I will rent an apartment and move to Ohio or Michigan or Wisconsin in 2020 where ma vote counts, yo!


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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXI 

Post#1570 » by Dat2U » Thu Aug 9, 2018 11:00 pm

stilldropin20 wrote:
JWizmentality wrote:
Ruzious wrote:And yet, it's clear from her comments that she's a racist. What a conundrum!

I'm sure you could find nice things here and there that the worst people in history did for various minorities. it's like playing a worthless game to rationalize the unjustifiable.


SD20 wants civil America. Voted Trump. :lol:

That’s because if we can’t be civil. For example if Democrat leaders want to convince their base that everyone else in the world are racist and the base wants to believe it what can I do about it? And if the GOP wants to rile up their base to fight those empty claims by Democratic leaders and their base then what can I do about that as well? And if there still are some real and actual racists out there, what can I do?

But in the meantime I want to strong economy more jobs than people looking for jobs and wages to rise. Even if equality doesn’t appear to be on the horizon’s for the political purposes...and if the bases of both parties want to prolong the race wars because they think it helps them politically...if everyone just wants to fight and bicker with everyone else ? that’s fine I guess. Again, what can I do?

But if we are going to fight and bicker with each other anyway, let’s do so with a strong economy. When there are jobs for everyone. When wages are rising. With ue low across all races n genders.

And guess what?

Trump is getting all that done. Accomplishing all that. And yes I would symbolically vote for him in the next election. But I did not vote for him in the last one because he can’t win Illinois so I didn’t bother voting.

Hmmmm?

Maybe I will rent an apartment and move to Ohio or Michigan or Wisconsin in 2020 where ma vote counts, yo!


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Yeah, that's where were at now. "If". As if it was something to be questioned. Were at the point were folks like yourself won't even acknowledge racism still exists.

But yet folks are supposed to be civil?

I'm not going to be civil with anyone that either refuses to acknowledge what's going on or suggests the real racists are the minorities and those that represent their voices. Why would i be civil with someone that doesn't see me as their equal?
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXI 

Post#1571 » by stilldropin20 » Thu Aug 9, 2018 11:06 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
stilldropin20 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Back to a time when less murders were committed?

Playing a worthless game to rationalize...

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Starts his chart and the gangster era. Lol can your chart be any more intellectually dishonest? Since everyone else was talking about the 40s 50s and 60s why don’t you try to Go back a couple decades... like another 4 decades.


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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXI 

Post#1572 » by Dat2U » Thu Aug 9, 2018 11:15 pm

GhostofChenier wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
stilldropin20 wrote:
what about going back to a time when the USA dominated the globe in manufacturing, banking, trade, education, quality of life and opportunity...BUT...this time around making sure everyone feels an equality of inclusion and enjoyment. women, minorities, LBGTQ, Everyone feels good about the USA dominating those things and raising the bar for ALL americans. . Back to a time when less murders were committed? Back to a time when people were nicer to each other on the street? :dontknow: doesn't sound like a bad idea to me?

As far as Ingraham, she may pander to the religious right of her audience from time to time (and you would too with money on the line) but still...she adopted a daughter out of poverty from guatamala and extensively dated Dinesh D'souza and actively supports minorities of both liberal and conservative backgrounds on her show(s) (which include one of the top rated shows in prime time and 3 hours of radio every day) giving them a platform to launch their careers. Hardly the acts of a racist.

And yet, it's clear from her comments that she's a racist. What a conundrum!

I'm sure you could find nice things here and there that the worst people in history did for various minorities. it's like playing a worthless game to rationalize the unjustifiable.


U hillary peeps uze racism as weapon againzt all who disahree with you. Ne color sex or lgbt if they uze diff opinion u say RACIZT so u do not half to debate.


Your awash in ignorance and you soak it's blissful lies. Your words are literally diarrhea for the soul, mind & spirit. I literally have no reason to or desire to debate you on any level because it would be akin to discussing horticulture with a bovine.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXI 

Post#1573 » by stilldropin20 » Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:03 am

Dat2U wrote:
stilldropin20 wrote:
JWizmentality wrote:
SD20 wants civil America. Voted Trump. :lol:

That’s because if we can’t be civil. For example if Democrat leaders want to convince their base that everyone else in the world are racist and the base wants to believe it what can I do about it? And if the GOP wants to rile up their base to fight those empty claims by Democratic leaders and their base then what can I do about that as well? And if there still are some real and actual racists out there, what can I do?

But in the meantime I want to strong economy more jobs than people looking for jobs and wages to rise. Even if equality doesn’t appear to be on the horizon’s for the political purposes...and if the bases of both parties want to prolong the race wars because they think it helps them politically...if everyone just wants to fight and bicker with everyone else ? that’s fine I guess. Again, what can I do?

But if we are going to fight and bicker with each other anyway, let’s do so with a strong economy. When there are jobs for everyone. When wages are rising. With ue low across all races n genders.

And guess what?

Trump is getting all that done. Accomplishing all that. And yes I would symbolically vote for him in the next election. But I did not vote for him in the last one because he can’t win Illinois so I didn’t bother voting.

Hmmmm?

Maybe I will rent an apartment and move to Ohio or Michigan or Wisconsin in 2020 where ma vote counts, yo!


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Yeah, that's where were at now. "If". As if it was something to be questioned. Were at the point were folks like yourself won't even acknowledge racism still exists.

But yet folks are supposed to be civil?

I'm not going to be civil with anyone that either refuses to acknowledge what's going on or suggests the real racists are the minorities and those that represent their voices. Why would i be civil with someone that doesn't see me as their equal?

I don’t know these people. I have not interacted with an actual true racist for over two decades just being serious. I’m not denying that they don’t exist I’m just saying I haven’t seen or heard from one in over two decades.


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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXI 

Post#1574 » by Wizardspride » Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:06 am

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President Donald Trump referred to African countries, Haiti and El Salvador as "shithole" nations during a meeting Thursday and asked why the U.S. can't have more immigrants from Norway.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXI 

Post#1575 » by dckingsfan » Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:31 am

He kind of glosses over the math on the left side of the equation. EL = c(C*R*IC) (capital*risk*intellectual capital). Where TL is also dependent on the efficiency improvements to the EL wich requires more capital, risk and intellectual capital. And then, in my opinion, the policies build on the equation fall flat.

And the tweet kind of gets it wrong as well - it isn't simple arithmetic - it is multi-variable inputs.

pancakes3 wrote:"massive demographic changes" isn't even a dogwhistle - it's just flat out racist.

and completely unrelated, this is extreme but also not completely wrong and might be worth a watch:

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXI 

Post#1576 » by stilldropin20 » Fri Aug 10, 2018 3:03 am

Ruzious wrote:
stilldropin20 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:It's pretty clear that the good old days to people like Ingraham refer to the pre civil rights movement days - if not pre Civil War days.


what about going back to a time when the USA dominated the globe in manufacturing, banking, trade, education, quality of life and opportunity...BUT...this time around making sure everyone feels an equality of inclusion and enjoyment. women, minorities, LBGTQ, Everyone feels good about the USA dominating those things and raising the bar for ALL americans. . Back to a time when less murders were committed? Back to a time when people were nicer to each other on the street? :dontknow: doesn't sound like a bad idea to me?

As far as Ingraham, she may pander to the religious right of her audience from time to time (and you would too with money on the line) but still...she adopted a daughter out of poverty from guatamala and extensively dated Dinesh D'souza and actively supports minorities of both liberal and conservative backgrounds on her show(s) (which include one of the top rated shows in prime time and 3 hours of radio every day) giving them a platform to launch their careers. Hardly the acts of a racist.

And yet, it's clear from her comments that she's a racist. What a conundrum!

I'm sure you could find nice things here and there that the worst people in history did for various minorities. it's like playing a worthless game to rationalize the unjustifiable.


that's just your opinion and its flat out wrong. You should watch her show speficially tonight. Great show. 80% minorities on as guests giving them a massive platform and being extremely fair and allowing everyone to speak their peace...unlike CNN who talks over conservatives.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXI 

Post#1577 » by GhostofChenier » Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:40 am

Dat2U wrote:
GhostofChenier wrote:
Ruzious wrote:And yet, it's clear from her comments that she's a racist. What a conundrum!

I'm sure you could find nice things here and there that the worst people in history did for various minorities. it's like playing a worthless game to rationalize the unjustifiable.


U hillary peeps uze racism as weapon againzt all who disahree with you. Ne color sex or lgbt if they uze diff opinion u say RACIZT so u do not half to debate.


Your awash in ignorance and you soak it's blissful lies. Your words are literally diarrhea for the soul, mind & spirit. I literally have no reason to or desire to debate you on any level because it would be akin to discussing horticulture with a bovine.


So I’m razist then? :lol: moo
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXI 

Post#1578 » by closg00 » Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:09 am

Kanyewest wrote:Trump has been stalling on the sanctions as long as he could and now it appears he's throwing the towel in as his lawyer has admitted that he has committed collusion.

In addition, Trump lifted some sanctions imposed by Obama that were meant to punish Russia specifically for election meddling.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XXI 

Post#1579 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:44 am

stilldropin20 wrote:
Dat2U wrote:
stilldropin20 wrote:That’s because if we can’t be civil. For example if Democrat leaders want to convince their base that everyone else in the world are racist and the base wants to believe it what can I do about it? And if the GOP wants to rile up their base to fight those empty claims by Democratic leaders and their base then what can I do about that as well? And if there still are some real and actual racists out there, what can I do?

But in the meantime I want to strong economy more jobs than people looking for jobs and wages to rise. Even if equality doesn’t appear to be on the horizon’s for the political purposes...and if the bases of both parties want to prolong the race wars because they think it helps them politically...if everyone just wants to fight and bicker with everyone else ? that’s fine I guess. Again, what can I do?

But if we are going to fight and bicker with each other anyway, let’s do so with a strong economy. When there are jobs for everyone. When wages are rising. With ue low across all races n genders.

And guess what?

Trump is getting all that done. Accomplishing all that. And yes I would symbolically vote for him in the next election. But I did not vote for him in the last one because he can’t win Illinois so I didn’t bother voting.

Hmmmm?

Maybe I will rent an apartment and move to Ohio or Michigan or Wisconsin in 2020 where ma vote counts, yo!


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Yeah, that's where were at now. "If". As if it was something to be questioned. Were at the point were folks like yourself won't even acknowledge racism still exists.

But yet folks are supposed to be civil?

I'm not going to be civil with anyone that either refuses to acknowledge what's going on or suggests the real racists are the minorities and those that represent their voices. Why would i be civil with someone that doesn't see me as their equal?

I don’t know these people. I have not interacted with an actual true racist for over two decades just being serious. I’m not denying that they don’t exist I’m just saying I haven’t seen or heard from one in over two decades.


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Post#1580 » by stilldropin20 » Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:28 pm

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