MIAMI HEAT Offseason Thread 2021 Vol.3

[MettaWorldPanda]

Sam Mitchell says we are a center away and moving Bam to PF from winning it all.

Who says no -

Heat get - Marvin Bagley
Kings get - Tyler Herro, Kevon Looney
Warriors get - Andre Iguodala (S&T)

Bagley sucks brehs, just say no

I'd fiddle with Buddy Love for Herro tho', but I don't think the funds are there for that

I agree. He’s not very good

[Variable-X]

So with Tucker's contract being 2yr 15mil with a 5% raise in year two means he's taking 7.3mil of the 9.8mil MLE leaving us with 2.5mil of the MLE and the 3.8mil BAE left to offer players outside of Vet min deals.

That sounds accurate, but we do have a few players whom we have the bird rights to if we want to continue to play the sign and trade game.

[heatwillbeback]

Just get Drummond move Bam to PF and call it a day.
PF - Bam, Tucker
C- Drummond, Dedmon

Id do it in a second, but he probably wants more than what Heat can offer.

[Vertical Limit]

Sorry but Duncan getting Norman Powell $ is a Frakin joke… Losing faith in this front office

Fortunately he will still be a tradeable asset… if all goes to ****,, and a team that needs shooting calls… we take some protected firsts for Duncan and now we have some more ammo to work with when we want to trade for a legit star… it wont be riley looking to see if we can trade a second round pick from the 2041 draft

[balla345]

swap herro for a starting 5 please

[Variable-X]

Who says no -

Heat get - Marvin Bagley
Kings get - Tyler Herro, Kevon Looney
Warriors get - Andre Iguodala (S&T)

Bagley sucks brehs, just say no

I'd fiddle with Buddy Love for Herro tho', but I don't think the funds are there for that

I agree. He’s not very good

Is Bagley's issue really talent, or is it organizational fit? He has been on bad terms with the Kings for the last couple years and doesn't seem to have a defined role. I could easily see him showing a different side to himself on a different team. Not necessarily referring to us here, but thinking that It seems a little early to write off someone that showed quite a bit of talent in college and was widely regarded enough to be the second pick. He may not be all star caliber any time soon, but he could have value to a franchise willing to develop him.

[HEATVols865]

Bagley has scored 14ppg last season. What other PF or C has scored that much for us since Bam became a starter? I’ll hang up and listen…


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[Vertical Limit]

People keep posting potential line ups here… i dont know if some of you all know this yet… but today, Goran Dragic is a better player than Kyle Lowry. There were many seasons where Kyle was the better player… but Gorans game has aged better, hes in better physical condition, and hes just the better player right now period. We did not improve at the 1. It was a lateral move best case scenario except, we paying Kyle 10 million more per season

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

Herro and Nunn S&T.

Do it Pat

[MettaWorldPanda]

Bagley has scored 14ppg last season. What other PF or C has scored that much for us since Bam became a starter? I’ll hang up and listen…


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Yeah i would probably gamble on him and see what happens. Worth a shot

[HeatIn5]

People keep posting potential line ups here… i dont know if some of you all know this yet… but today, Goran Dragic is a better player than Kyle Lowry. There were many seasons where Kyle was the better player… but Gorans game has aged better, hes in better physical condition, and hes just the better player right now period. We did not improve at the 1. It was a lateral move best case scenario except, we paying Kyle 10 million more per season

huh?

this is so far from being true

[HEATVols865]

Herro and Nunn S&T.

Do it Pat

That’s the play now. Don’t forget Iggy


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[Heat_Down_Under]

Is Strus that far behind Duncan at shooting 3s and defence that we couldn’t let Duncan go and use that money else where and substitute Strus for Duncan? (Especially if we keeping Herro). Strus is on a bargain

[balla345]

can we still get Leonard?

[Variable-X]

People keep posting potential line ups here… i dont know if some of you all know this yet… but today, Goran Dragic is a better player than Kyle Lowry. There were many seasons where Kyle was the better player… but Gorans game has aged better, hes in better physical condition, and hes just the better player right now period. We did not improve at the 1. It was a lateral move best case scenario except, we paying Kyle 10 million more per season

A couple things and please don't take this as slander towards Goran as it isn't intended that way. Lowry is both a better defender and facilitator than Goran, and he has the added benefit of tending to be more available. For the price point I see what you are saying, but Goran wasn't coming in and running an offense. He was coming in and getting buckets. A big point of value in Lowry is that he can come in and dictate tempo. He can run an offense so that we aren't reliant on Jimmy isos and Bam dribble hand offs for the half court offense to function. He gives us greater flexibility and he gets Jimmy to buy in for the next few years and that wasn't a given unless we made some moves to show Jimmy that we were committed.

[Cmon_Son-_-]

Dragic had a special playoff run for us in the bubble but he hasnt been better than lowry in like 4 seasons. Even if you think Lowry is only slightly better on offense he's a far better defender. Lowry's impact to the game today is much greater than Dragics.

[Variable-X]

Is Strus that far behind Duncan at shooting 3s and defence that we couldn’t let Duncan go and use that money else where and substitute Strus for Duncan? (Especially if we keeping Herro). Strus is on a bargain

Maybe not in the mechanics of it per say but he definitely would need to learn to develop the off ball movement that Duncan has put so much work into. Duncan's numbers are likely to go up this season as there is more offensive versatility and threat around him, preventing the defense from honing in on him the way they did this last season. One reasons defenses were able to adjust to him and make his life more difficult is both Bam and Jimmy were very hesitant this last season in the half court offense. I think the addition of Lowry eases that burden a good bit, and Duncan will find himself free more often. I wouldn't be surprised to see him average 18+ points per game this coming season due to the increased space and hopefully better run offense.

[Mk613]

Sorry but Duncan getting Norman Powell $ is a Frakin joke… Losing faith in this front office

Fortunately he will still be a tradeable asset… if all goes to ****,, and a team that needs shooting calls… we take some protected firsts for Duncan and now we have some more ammo to work with when we want to trade for a legit star… it wont be riley looking to see if we can trade a second round pick from the 2041 draft

Lol nobody giving protected 1st rounders for Robinson lmao

Pat shoulda jus done a sign and trade with Duncan, picked up someone like monk that’s younger and honestly has a better overall game then Robinson.

[Mk613]

Strus is trash.

[Variable-X]

Strus is trash.

for his price point and what he brings I think this is objectively false. He has value to an offense, but is still developing. Just because a player isn't a finished product without the benefit a even a single season playing exclusively at this level doesn't mean he is trash. That is just hyperbole at that point and designed to be inflammatory. Now if you presented reasoning behind your assessment, it might be easier to give your words value.