Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc... 7.0

[gambitx777]

JR isn’t a chroir boy but let’s add some context to his arrests.

Guy had an accident while speeding , arrested for fighting a couple times , riding a scooter without a license and breaking a fan phone. He not some violent criminal abusing women.

JR got problems of his own and need better decision making skills. He seems to be on a good track at this point but it’s a stretch to compare his to a sexist and racist.

Also the NCAA allowed him to compete in golf. Apparently he's been pretty good.

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[toooskies]

Suns are getting hit in the wallet now

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missed a golden opportunity to work your username into this

About to create 100 alts just to and 1 this.

Except the effort and that I am still struggling on naming my fantasy football.

HoustonOilers? SanDiegoChargers? ToledoMaroons?

[Devilanche]

He probably going step away from the team forever now.

Doesn’t believe the ban is harsh enough.

[HartfordWhalers]

missed a golden opportunity to work your username into this

About to create 100 alts just to and 1 this.

Except the effort and that I am still struggling on naming my fantasy football.

HoustonOilers? SanDiegoChargers? ToledoMaroons?

Maybe the Orlando Storm.

[loserX]

About to create 100 alts just to and 1 this.

Except the effort and that I am still struggling on naming my fantasy football.

HoustonOilers? SanDiegoChargers? ToledoMaroons?

Maybe the Orlando Storm.

Clearly it should be ShreveportPirates.

[Texas Chuck]

Me and Nellie are insulted you aren't the Pismo Beach Panthers already

[Scoot McGroot]

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An especially egregious example of the exhibit 10 roster churning

[zimpy27]

HoustonOilers? SanDiegoChargers? ToledoMaroons?

Maybe the Orlando Storm.

Clearly it should be ShreveportPirates.

OaklandBooties

[ejftw]

missed a golden opportunity to work your username into this

About to create 100 alts just to and 1 this.

Except the effort and that I am still struggling on naming my fantasy football.

HoustonOilers? SanDiegoChargers? ToledoMaroons?

If you got Herbert, it's a no brainer to go with Herbert the Pervert

[WargamesX]

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Westbrook is either gone or they are seriously trying to turn him into an SG/SF

I honestly think they want him to demand a buyout and they can recoup some of that salary and he can go and recoup his value playing at a lower cost somewhere else.

[shrink]

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Westbrook is either gone or they are seriously trying to turn him into an SG/SF

I honestly think they want him to demand a buyout and they can recoup some of that salary and he can go and recoup his value playing at a lower cost somewhere else.

I agree. Even though Beverley and Schroeder can help the team, I imagine Westbrook is highly insulted by those two acquisitions.

[zimpy27]

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Westbrook is either gone or they are seriously trying to turn him into an SG/SF

I honestly think they want him to demand a buyout and they can recoup some of that salary and he can go and recoup his value playing at a lower cost somewhere else.

That wouldn't make sense until deadline. I think they'd rather hold him as a salary ballast for trade until.he can't be traded. Just in case a good trade package pops up.

[Monky15]

Whats Bey's value for Detoit? If they feel he is more Harrison Barnes vs Luol Deng and don't want to have to pay him as they would rather pay big bucks for a more impactful player at his position?

Nunn 2 unprotected LAL 1sts for Bey, Stewart.

Pistons punt, could use the 1sts in a later package to fill gaps around their young stars.

Lakers use their last remaining assets to get 2 young players who can be kept long term. Stewart is a poor mans Turner and can be a big body next to AD thru the RS. Bey gives them young legs on the wing. They either buy out WB or just let him expire.

[oldncreaky]

Whats Bey's value for Detoit? If they feel he is more Harrison Barnes vs Luol Deng and don't want to have to pay him as they would rather pay big bucks for a more impactful player at his position?

Nunn 2 unprotected LAL 1sts for Bey, Stewart.

Pistons punt, could use the 1sts in a later package to fill gaps around their young stars.

Lakers use their last remaining assets to get 2 young players who can be kept long term. Stewart is a poor mans Turner and can be a big body next to AD thru the RS. Bey gives them young legs on the wing. They either buy out WB or just let him expire.

Bey and Stewart are two of Detroit's likely starters, they fit in building around Cade, and are under team control for another 6 years. They're going nowhere.

[Texas Chuck]

Whats Bey's value for Detoit? If they feel he is more Harrison Barnes vs Luol Deng and don't want to have to pay him as they would rather pay big bucks for a more impactful player at his position?

Nunn 2 unprotected LAL 1sts for Bey, Stewart.

Pistons punt, could use the 1sts in a later package to fill gaps around their young stars.

Lakers use their last remaining assets to get 2 young players who can be kept long term. Stewart is a poor mans Turner and can be a big body next to AD thru the RS. Bey gives them young legs on the wing. They either buy out WB or just let him expire.

Bey and Stewart are two of Detroit's likely starters, they fit in building around Cade, and are under team control for another 6 years. They're going nowhere.

If the Lakers are really giving up two unprotected 1sts, Detroit should absolutely be shipping those guys to LA. That's a big overpay.

[CallMeKahn]

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Westbrook is either gone or they are seriously trying to turn him into an SG/SF

I honestly think they want him to demand a buyout and they can recoup some of that salary and he can go and recoup his value playing at a lower cost somewhere else.

That wouldn't make sense until deadline. I think they'd rather hold him as a salary ballast for trade until.he can't be traded. Just in case a good trade package pops up.

That seems more likely and I suspect he'll be dealt this week. The market for a bought-out Westbrook currently is not good, so I doubt he'd do a buyout. That's an expensive contract to waive just to open up a roster spot when that contract itself has value as an expiring deal. It's also hard to see him working in a Schröder/Bev backcourt (I don't know why, but I love that pairing) unless it's for a reality TV show.

He'll probably be getting a call from an 801 or 317 area code soon and it won't be about his car's extended warranty.

[countryboy667]

Yet another report that Pacers will trade Turner and Hiled for Westbrook...

Why does this keep coming up?

It seems to me for one reason and one reason only--it benefits the Lakers and costs them nothing of real value. The Lakers think because they are one of the league's glamor franchises they are entitled to treat smaller market teams as farm clubs.

Even if they add protected picks in the future, what will those picks be worth if the Lakers return to power, which the addition of Turner and Hield might well help them do?

Hield is a quality three-point threat. Turner is an elite rim pretector who can also stretch the floor, and in my opinion, is chronically undervalued here by many of RealGM. Some of the trades I've seen proposed for him seem to me to be breathtakingly laughable they are so one sided.

On the other hand Westbrook is a player some have suggested is on the decline and/or too selfish to accept a role that doesn't make him the primary focus on a team. The Pacers are going to suffer short term, but we have the makings of a nice young team that has a ton of potential for growth. Why would we want a grossly overpaid aging veteran on the decline, or one with a bloated ego?

Turner has a year left on his contract. If these young players are as good as I think they can be, that's a year for them to show flashes of what's possible and maybe convince Turner, who is himself relatively young, that it might make sense for him to stay and have some fun if the money is acceptable. And if he doesn't stay, that opens up opportunities for the young bigs the Pacers have, Smith, Jackson, and maybe Goga.

It sticks in my craw that there seems to be this idea we are obligated to rectify the stupid mistakes the Lakers have made. Screw 'em. If they want Turner and Hield immediately so as to make a run at yet another title and ring for James, let them pony up some real value. To me, picks of questionable future value and Westbrook aren't it.

If I'm wrong, and there is some LEGITIMATE reason the Pacers should want to do this, please enlighten me.

[jasonxxx102]

The Knicks have acted in a similar manner for the last couple decades. Just assuming they can do whatever because "they're NYC". The Lakers obviously feel like they're entitled to send everyone junk for gold.

All of these "rumors" are just Laker fans and Laker beat writers (through the FO) trying to pump up the value of worthless assets.

Pacers trading for Westbrook makes absolutely no sense. They're not gonna buy him out and definitely not going to let him muck up Haliburton & team building chemistry.

[Scoot McGroot]

I mean, it absolutely makes sense for Indy. Buddy has played well in Indy, but He’s still been a net negative on the court due to his terrible defensive production. Add in that Indy has drafted Mathurin, Duarte, and Nembhard in the last two years, acquired Nesmith and Haliburton, and moving Buddy to clear minutes and clear his contract could make sense. Like, Indy shouldn’t pay to do it, but LA seems to value Buddy so it would make sense a deal could be worked.

As for Myles? Well, he’s a pending unrestricted free agent that Indy has tried to trade in the past (for Hayward) and tried to replace with younger players more recently (the Ayton offer sheet, and the acquisitions/drafting of Jackson and Jalen Smith, and even Goga). Ben if Indy wants to keep him, there’s no guarantee they can, as he’s unrestricted and can sign anywhere for anything. Add in that a ton of teams will have $20+m in cap space this upcoming season, and there is a valid point that Indy might be best served to simply get something of value for Turner before he hits unrestricted free agency and could leave for nothing in return to Indy.

Otherwise, yeah, Westbrook would be a clear buyout. That would suck. But getting to clear Buddy’s extra year and get more playing time for all the young guards makes sense. And if Indy could add future firsts, that’s a great asset to add in the post Lebron/AD years. Maybe they get another star? But maybe it takes awhile. They were drafting high in the lotto for quite a few years in the end of the Kobe years before Lebron came to town. And with Indy having added a ton of young guys on rookie contracts and owning 3 1sts in next years draft, having them spaced further out in 2027 and 2029 would actually make value sense. And, Indy could always retrace those picks for other fits as trades come available in the next couple years.

Obviously, Indy would want both picks, and as least protected as possible. There’s no need to give them away. Indy doesn’t have to pay to move Buddy, as they can live with him. But there’s clear value reason to consider a Russ for Myles/Buddy type trade for Indy. Especially as Indy isn’t projected to be very good at all this year.

[jazzfan1971]

makes sense to both sides to me. That is the reason I'd be ok only taking back 1 first in a ut/lal deal. As I think if 2 firsts are involved that the Lakers should deal with Indy. So the Jazz need to undercut them on the cost side.

Unlike the OP, I think those LAL picks could be quite good.