Joel Embiid -- The Process is now Live

Simmons25 · Post #1581 » by **Simmons25** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:27 am

Surgery hasn't been something the Sixers have discussed, but according to two orthopedic surgeons, it would seem probable. A minor repair would result in a six-to-eight week recovery but a bigger tear could mean a six-eight month recovery. The 76ers have contended that the tear is "slight" and "minor".

Well if this is true and 2 surgeons are saying its a probably surgery... why isn't it being done ASAP. I hope they are right that it is minor... and a 2 month recovery... but if it is major and 8 months we are already looking at December... and with the 76ers penchant for taking twice as long... that wipes out all of next season as well.

XtremeDunkz · Post #1582 » by **XtremeDunkz** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:21 am

Simmons25 wrote:
Surgery hasn't been something the Sixers have discussed, but according to two orthopedic surgeons, it would seem probable. A minor repair would result in a six-to-eight week recovery but a bigger tear could mean a six-eight month recovery. The 76ers have contended that the tear is "slight" and "minor".

Well if this is true and 2 surgeons are saying its a probably surgery... why isn't it being done ASAP. I hope they are right that it is minor... and a 2 month recovery... but if it is major and 8 months we are already looking at December... and with the 76ers penchant for taking twice as long... that wipes out all of next season as well.

If Embiid were to barely play next season I would seriously have to consider taking a few seasons off from watching the NBA.

sam-hinkie · Post #1583 » by **sam-hinkie** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:11 am

Sigh....he is going to miss next season book it just saw that tidbit about a major tear being 6 to 8 months sucks being a sixers fan they said it was minor but I simply don't trust this organization with injury updates

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Post #1584 » by **CoreyGallagher** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:42 am

Not sure where RealGM got the possible 8 month recovery from, I've done research after the fact and have never read any taking 8 months to return from... Can anybody find a case of this?

3-5 months is typically how long it takes to return from a meniscus tear, 5 being lengthy recovery and 3 being typical.

Wilfried · Post #1585 » by **Wilfried** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:50 am

Thing that bothers me incredibly, is that the injury occured about a month and a half ago.

And we still don't know what to do.

A meniscus tear isn't that uncommon or complicated, isn't it?

Not a single injury the last 3 years has healed at normal speed with this franchise.
Not Noel, Embiid, Simmons, Embiid again, ...

It's completely insane

kriss73 · Post #1586 » by **kriss73** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:54 am

The stunning part of this last Embiid's saga, is that they discovered the lesion on 01/20/2017 and he played his last game on 01/27/2017.
I mean: TWO months to decide what is the best path for his recovery? Are you kidding me?
After 2 months they don't know what kind of surgery is needed?

If they went immediately with the minor repair (6-8 week), Embiid would be good to go just after the end of the season....

EDIT: didn't see Wilfried

BigSleep333 · Post #1587 » by **BigSleep333** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:26 am

dont freak out guys. he played 7 days after that injury and scored 32 points with an athletic dunk to start the game. im not concerned at all

Watch on YouTube

Simmons25 · Post #1588 » by **Simmons25** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:59 am

BigSleep333 wrote:dont freak out guys. he played 7 days after that injury and scored 32 points with an athletic dunk to start the game. im not concerned at all

Watch on YouTube

In all seriousness that probably means little. I remember them saying at the time he was fine that day but the next day it swelled up which is what happens with meniscus tears.

We also don't know if he tore it more in that game.

Kobblehead · Post #1589 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:13 pm

Trying to extend him at this point would be lunacy. Wait until the last possible moment of his restricted free agency to match a potential offersheet.

Grahf · Post #1590 » by **Grahf** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:28 pm

I am hoping with all my heart that he gets better quickly. As a Celtics fan, you guys are going to be scary when you get healthy, but as a basketball fan I can't wait to see that potential Embiid-Simmons-Saric front court.

The basketball gods will let it happen. They're not going to let us miss out on something that could be that special.

dckingsfan · Post #1591 » by **dckingsfan** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:51 pm

I come in peace

Question: It seems like getting Embiid and Simmons healthy by 2018-2019 is the key and not really worrying about 17-18. Am I missing something on that? Especially if you get lucky and get a top 3 - it would allow your PG to have a bit of time to develop?

Do you guys see it differently?

Unbreakable99 · Post #1592 » by **Unbreakable99** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:59 pm

dckingsfan wrote:I come in peace Question: It seems like getting Embiid and Simmons healthy by 2018-2019 is the key and not really worrying about 17-18. Am I missing something on that? Especially if you get lucky and get a top 3 - it would allow your PG to have a bit of time to develop?

Do you guys see it differently?

Read on Twitter

Yes I do see it differently. Next season both Embiid and Simmons should be fully healthy. If they aren't then that's a major issue.

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #1593 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:02 pm

dckingsfan wrote:I come in peace Question: It seems like getting Embiid and Simmons healthy by 2018-2019 is the key and not really worrying about 17-18. Am I missing something on that? Especially if you get lucky and get a top 3 - it would allow your PG to have a bit of time to develop?

Do you guys see it differently?

There are some on here who just enjoy tanking every season and arguing over what should be done and who we should be tanking for. I personally am completely fed up with the idea of losing games for draft picks year after year. I would hope that next season we can make a push for the playoffs with or without Embiid. I certainly hope Simmons is healthy and IS the player a lot of people think he is. I also hope that whoever we draft actually plays from the very beginning for a change.
This situation with Embiid is absolutely frustrating at this point. He gave us such a tease...30 games. At this point I consider anything he does for us an added bonus. The guy simply cannot be counted on to stay healthy.

Post #1594 » by **Sixerscan** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:43 pm

dckingsfan wrote:I come in peace Question: It seems like getting Embiid and Simmons healthy by 2018-2019 is the key and not really worrying about 17-18. Am I missing something on that? Especially if you get lucky and get a top 3 - it would allow your PG to have a bit of time to develop?

Do you guys see it differently?

Playoffs or bust next year. Whether jo plays 82 games or 2.

dckingsfan · Post #1595 » by **dckingsfan** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:48 pm

Got it - time to win. Thanks for the feedback.

Simmons25 · Post #1596 » by **Simmons25** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:05 pm

Sixerscan wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:I come in peace Question: It seems like getting Embiid and Simmons healthy by 2018-2019 is the key and not really worrying about 17-18. Am I missing something on that? Especially if you get lucky and get a top 3 - it would allow your PG to have a bit of time to develop?

Do you guys see it differently?

Playoffs or bust next year. Whether jo plays 82 games or 2.

That's nice and all... but if Embiid and Simmons are not there next year we aren't getting within a sniff of the playoffs with the rest of the roster. That's the reality.

Post #1597 » by **Sixerscan** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:10 pm

Simmons25 wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:I come in peace Question: It seems like getting Embiid and Simmons healthy by 2018-2019 is the key and not really worrying about 17-18. Am I missing something on that? Especially if you get lucky and get a top 3 - it would allow your PG to have a bit of time to develop?

Do you guys see it differently?

Playoffs or bust next year. Whether jo plays 82 games or 2.

That's nice and all... but if Embiid and Simmons are not there next year we aren't getting within a sniff of the playoffs with the rest of the roster. That's the reality.

They have roughly $1 billion in cap space. Time to spend.

dckingsfan · Post #1598 » by **dckingsfan** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:14 pm

Simmons25 wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:I come in peace Question: It seems like getting Embiid and Simmons healthy by 2018-2019 is the key and not really worrying about 17-18. Am I missing something on that? Especially if you get lucky and get a top 3 - it would allow your PG to have a bit of time to develop?

Do you guys see it differently?

Playoffs or bust next year. Whether jo plays 82 games or 2.

That's nice and all... but if Embiid and Simmons are not there next year we aren't getting within a sniff of the playoffs with the rest of the roster. That's the reality.

That is true. And even with them, it will be a battle. I would think that if healthy and once Embiid, Saric and Simmons are together for a full year - it will be a continual run to the playoffs.

But that is an opinion from an outsider - and I only watch 1 in 5 of their games.

Simmons25 · Post #1599 » by **Simmons25** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:25 pm

Sixerscan wrote:
Simmons25 wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:Playoffs or bust next year. Whether jo plays 82 games or 2.

That's nice and all... but if Embiid and Simmons are not there next year we aren't getting within a sniff of the playoffs with the rest of the roster. That's the reality.

They have roughly $1 billion in cap space. Time to spend.

I don't think they will spend it next year. We want to see how Simmons, Embiid, Saric and our 1st pick this coming draft play together and then maybe look at spending on decent free agents the year after that on whatever we need to make us contendors.

Post #1600 » by **Sixerscan** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:38 pm

Simmons25 wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:
Simmons25 wrote:
That's nice and all... but if Embiid and Simmons are not there next year we aren't getting within a sniff of the playoffs with the rest of the roster. That's the reality.

They have roughly $1 billion in cap space. Time to spend.

I don't think they will spend it next year. We want to see how Simmons, Embiid, Saric and our 1st pick this coming draft play together and then maybe look at spending on decent free agents the year after that on whatever we need to make us contendors.

I don't see how that benefits anyone but Josh Harris. Doesn't have to be long term signings can be 1-2 year deals. In fact that may be preferable.