The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III

[Kobblehead]

Pictures worth a thousand words.

On possessions that matter in games that matter, he's put in the dunker's spot like an afterthought.

The dude that grew up watching and idolizing LeBron James is used instead like Anderson Varejao in crunchtime.

Ben Simmons should print out those still shots and stare at them whenever he needs motivation.

[VDT]

Simmons needs to improve not only to help the team but to help himself because at the moment is in no mans land as a player. He needs a roster catered to his strengths and weaknesses without being good enough to justify it.

He runs the risk of being seen in a similar vein as Westbrook is seen now. A player that is overpaid, is not a good fit in most schemes and teams and you cant build around him.

[Ferry Avenue]

Pictures worth a thousand words.

On possessions that matter in games that matter, he's put in the dunker's spot like an afterthought.

The dude that grew up watching and idolizing LeBron James is used instead like Anderson Varejao in crunchtime.

Ben Simmons should print out those still shots and stare at them whenever he needs motivation.

What's crazy is that this team spent every important game last season having Jimmy Butler play point guard when it mattered, and then went into this season thinking Ben Simmons could simply assume that role. What, was he going to become a Jimmy Butler equivalent in one offseason? Was that not a serious miscalculation?

[Kobblehead]

What's crazy is that this team spent every important game last season having Jimmy Butler play point guard when it mattered, and then went into this season thinking Ben Simmons could simply assume that role. What, was he going to become a Jimmy Butler equivalent in one offseason? Was that not a serious miscalculation?

I don't think they expected anything out of Ben. I think they just wanted to retain the asset and hope for longterm blooming from him. They played it scared and wishful.

[phillynative]

Pictures worth a thousand words.

On possessions that matter in games that matter, he's put in the dunker's spot like an afterthought.

The dude that grew up watching and idolizing LeBron James is used instead like Anderson Varejao in crunchtime.

Ben Simmons should print out those still shots and stare at them whenever he needs motivation.

What's crazy is that this team spent every important game last season having Jimmy Butler play point guard when it mattered, and then went into this season thinking Ben Simmons could simply assume that role. What, was he going to become a Jimmy Butler equivalent in one offseason? Was that not a serious miscalculation?

Jimmy nor Ben are true PGs . Ben is a point forward . He shouldnt be our only playmaker throughout the games. Imagine if we had a PG that could consistently break down the defense and get guys open shots throughout the game.

[DaSixers]

Im telling yall ben simmons is a trash bball player and always will be. Call a spade a spade. 4 years in this is where we are at and BRETT BROWN ALLOWS IT

It is time we rid ourselves of these 2 holding us back. Ben simmons is so painfully bad in the half court I legit get angry thinking about how soft he is

If he was half a man he would cut to the ft line recieve apass and bulldoze his way into a dunk or layup. Or 1 hard jab step one way and 2 dribbles the other for a dunk or foul on a layup

It is SIMPLE bball and brown and simmons cant figure it out. If im his teamates im over it and out him to the media

Im sick of ben simmons and want him off my team

[76ciology]

Aside from shooting..

Ben should be more aggressive on fastbreaks. I’m talking about being like a Giannis-lite on fastbreak. He should look to score rather than pass in these opportunities.

[Kobblehead]

Sixers are 15th in fast break point per game and 25th is fast break efficiency. We're just not a transition team. Just another example of Ben not fitting with what we want to do.

[youngcrev]

Sixers are 15th in fast break point per game and 25th is fast break efficiency. We're just not a transition team. Just another example of Ben not fitting with what we want to do.

I don't really get the logic there. We don't want to get out in transition?

[Jhawk03]

Sixers are 15th in fast break point per game and 25th is fast break efficiency. We're just not a transition team. Just another example of Ben not fitting with what we want to do.

I don't really get the logic there. We don't want to get out in transition?

You're reading that post all wrong. If someone were to tell you that you aren't smart, what would make you think that that person doesn't want you to get smart?

[76ciology]

Ben Simmons should be a player the opponents should fear on fastbreaks. Seems like he only look to score when its a breakaway.

[youngcrev]

Sixers are 15th in fast break point per game and 25th is fast break efficiency. We're just not a transition team. Just another example of Ben not fitting with what we want to do.

I don't really get the logic there. We don't want to get out in transition?

You're reading that post all wrong. If someone were to tell you that you aren't smart, what would make you think that that person doesn't want you to get smart?

Because it would be like someone telling you you're not smart, so you should quit hanging out with that smart kid.

Or saying we should get rid of a good 3 point shooter because the team isn't a good 3 point shooting team overall.

[Eyeamok]

Last night I cried and died a little inside. I watched the Dallas / Clippers game. Luka Dončić did not shoot exceptionally well. But he would bring the ball up and sometimes shoot sometimes drive to the basket, sometimes pass it. He displayed a variety of options. it was not just dribble past half court then hand the ball off. Or get a fast break dunk it and then flex or yell.

With some hard work Ben could add so much more to his game. I'm not saying he would be Luka, but he could and would be such a more versatile player. But he won't he does not and he has already been rewarded for what he does.

I was extremely high on Ben because I thought he wanted to be great. But being good seems to be fine with him.

[Ferry Avenue]

Last night I cried and died a little inside. I watched the Dallas / Clippers game. Luka Dončić did not shoot exceptionally well. But he would bring the ball up and sometimes shoot sometimes drive to the basket, sometimes pass it. He displayed a variety of options. it was not just dribble past half court then hand the ball off. Or get a fast break dunk it and then flex or yell.

With some hard work Ben could add so much more to his game. I'm not saying he would be Luka, but he could and would be such a more versatile player. But he won't he does not and he has already been rewarded for what he does.

I was extremely high on Ben because I thought he wanted to be great. But being good seems to be fine with him.

Sure it's fine with him. He's getting paid the big bucks for being exactly what he is. That's a message from the team that he needs to do nothing to his game.

[Ferry Avenue]

In 34 clutch time minutes this season, Ben Simmons has:

- More TO (3) than made FG (2)
- 0 made FG in the half court
- Fewer assists (4) than Tobias Harris (5)
- 2 FT attempts
- a 12.2 usage rate

And this was the team's answer to losing Jimmy Butler for running the offense in the clutch, AND they went ahead and paid him on top of that!

My, what a mistake....

[Eyeamok]

In 34 clutch time minutes this season, Ben Simmons has:

- More TO (3) than made FG (2)
- 0 made FG in the half court
- Fewer assists (4) than Tobias Harris (5)
- 2 FT attempts
- a 12.2 usage rate

And this was the team's answer to losing Jimmy Butler for running the offense in the clutch, AND they went ahead and paid him on top of that!

My, what a mistake....

But here is the thing. Management went ahead and paid him. After he was made ineffective in the Boston Series and ineffective in the Raptors series when it counted most. They sat in negotiations and said Ben we need you to shoot more and Ben said Ok I will and they said here sign this great contract. And I bet they said in unison "Jimmy Butler & half court problem fixed!"

[Ferry Avenue]

In 34 clutch time minutes this season, Ben Simmons has:

- More TO (3) than made FG (2)
- 0 made FG in the half court
- Fewer assists (4) than Tobias Harris (5)
- 2 FT attempts
- a 12.2 usage rate

And this was the team's answer to losing Jimmy Butler for running the offense in the clutch, AND they went ahead and paid him on top of that!

My, what a mistake....

But here is the thing. Management went ahead and paid him. After he was made ineffective in the Boston Series and ineffective in the Raptors series when it counted most. They sat in negotiations and said Ben we need you to shoot more and Ben said Ok I will and they said here sign this great contract. And I bet they said in unison "Jimmy Butler & half court problem fixed!"

Even if that was the case, why is shooting alone viewed as some sort of salvation, when there's been no evidence that he would shoot well enough for that to make the necessary difference?

[Eyeamok]

In 34 clutch time minutes this season, Ben Simmons has:

- More TO (3) than made FG (2)
- 0 made FG in the half court
- Fewer assists (4) than Tobias Harris (5)
- 2 FT attempts
- a 12.2 usage rate

And this was the team's answer to losing Jimmy Butler for running the offense in the clutch, AND they went ahead and paid him on top of that!

My, what a mistake....

But here is the thing. Management went ahead and paid him. After he was made ineffective in the Boston Series and ineffective in the Raptors series when it counted most. They sat in negotiations and said Ben we need you to shoot more and Ben said Ok I will and they said here sign this great contract. And I bet they said in unison "Jimmy Butler & half court problem fixed!"

Even if that was the case, why is shooting alone viewed as some sort of salvation, when there's been no evidence that he would shoot well enough for that to make the necessary difference?

Who the hell knows. They management want to believe in him? Perhaps he had great gym workouts where he was hitting shots. Who the hell knows.

[Bum Adebayo]

There is also a major problem here, we see it with many players. It's the age thing. There are no words to describe how overrated the age factor is. People and FO just assume every player improves at a similar rate through an age range. Like, if a player is 22 years old, he will be much better when he is 25 years old. The reality is, some players improve greatly, others improve moderately and others improve very little or even regress slightly. There needs to be other aspects to gauge what upside does a player has remaining, not just age. For example, Siakam and Giannis, two aspects that could lead to untapped potential are underdeveloped frame and very little experience playing basketball.

[youngcrev]

In 34 clutch time minutes this season, Ben Simmons has:

- More TO (3) than made FG (2)
- 0 made FG in the half court
- Fewer assists (4) than Tobias Harris (5)
- 2 FT attempts
- a 12.2 usage rate

And this was the team's answer to losing Jimmy Butler for running the offense in the clutch, AND they went ahead and paid him on top of that!

My, what a mistake....

I don't really get the point of looking at his "clutch" numbers. He's a poor offensive player in the half court, so he rarely has the ball in his hands in those situations. It's not like thats anything ground breaking.