ATL - 2021-22 Regular Season Begins

BucksFanSD · Post #1581 » by **BucksFanSD** » Fri Nov 5, 2021 4:46 am

Love that Shai shot from the logo to seal the deal. That took some huevos.

ETA: Turned out to be quite the finish. Thunder come back from 19 to beat the Lakers after coming back from 26 last week.

Ayt · Post #1582 » by **Ayt** » Fri Nov 5, 2021 4:50 am

I love SGA and Giddey, but OKC has so many stupid players.

FrieAaron · Post #1583 » by **FrieAaron** » Fri Nov 5, 2021 7:14 am

Say what you want about Lisa - at least we don't have to hear her say "kaboom" after every three pointer.

Milbucks96 · Post #1584 » by **Milbucks96** » Fri Nov 5, 2021 7:48 am

The lakers are a lottery team without lebron, they might be mediocre or just above that with him. The trade for Westbrook is even worse than most people expected. One of my favorite players to watch all time but melo should’ve been in a 10-15 minute role for the last 5 or 6 years. Any team playing him 25-30 mins this late in his career will lose a good amount of games. Westbrook should be coming off the bench for 20 minutes with all shooters if you want to win anything.

machu46 · Post #1585 » by **machu46** » Fri Nov 5, 2021 10:23 am

Pachinko_ wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:Still only his third game but it's brick after brick for Cade.

I admit I have no feel for college basketball and I don't know what "he was good in college" means exactly, or how is it different to "he was good in Lithuania". But just from those couple of NBA games I've watched, the guy just doesn't look anything like he was described, he's not particularly tall, or crafty, or accurate, or good at basketball tbh.

It might be an injury or it might be too early, but then again there have been so many underwhelming top 3 picks the last few years that he might just be crap and it wouldn't surprise me at all.

He ended up measuring like 2 inches shorter than he was billed as in college. I mean, he isn’t short by any means, but he isn’t 6’8” either. Scouts talked about him being a Luka type player, but he never really showed the passing chops in college that people thought he had. Granted their spacing was abysmal, but still. It was pretty weird watching him in college after the way he was described.

He looked like a legitimately very good shooter, competitive and solid defender, and someone that could post up smaller guards when he wasn’t just running the offense. I haven’t gotten a chance to watch his NBA games yet but it sounds like Detroit has been messing with his jumpshot.

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Bucksfan28 · Post #1586 » by **Bucksfan28** » Fri Nov 5, 2021 12:35 pm

Westbrick once again showing that his mvp was a sham.

Ron Swanson · Post #1587 » by **Ron Swanson** » Fri Nov 5, 2021 1:32 pm

Cade right now seems like he's got dead legs on his jumper. It'll come around. But look beyond the shooting efficiency and you can see a guy who's just natural and fluid running an offense. I see a lot of Middleton/Brandon Roy there.

Post #1588 » by **MickeyDavis** » Fri Nov 5, 2021 1:37 pm

Lakers were gifted a very easy early schedule AND 12 of their first 15 games at home. And they're 5-4. Sorry, not sorry.

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MikeIsGood · Post #1589 » by **MikeIsGood** » Fri Nov 5, 2021 2:05 pm

God I love SGA. That shot is completely ridiculous with the time left on the shot clock, but it's beautiful.

Pachinko_ · Post #1590 » by **Pachinko_** » Fri Nov 5, 2021 2:30 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Cade right now seems like he's got dead legs on his jumper. It'll come around. But look beyond the shooting efficiency and you can see a guy who's just natural and fluid running an offense. I see a lot of Middleton/Brandon Roy there.

With all the hindsight in the world, would you draft Middleton with the #1 pick?

RogerMurdock · Post #1591 » by **RogerMurdock** » Fri Nov 5, 2021 2:42 pm

Pachinko_ wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Cade right now seems like he's got dead legs on his jumper. It'll come around. But look beyond the shooting efficiency and you can see a guy who's just natural and fluid running an offense. I see a lot of Middleton/Brandon Roy there.

With all the hindsight in the world, would you draft Middleton with the #1 pick?

Not in the 2012 draft (it was a bad draft class - he'd go REALLY high in a redraft - maybe #3 behind Brow and Lillard?), but if I picked someone #1 and they turned out like Khris, I wouldn't be upset.

Ron Swanson · Post #1592 » by **Ron Swanson** » Fri Nov 5, 2021 2:59 pm

I think a Middleton level career is his floor, so yeah, a quicker and more natural floor general version of Khris is easily worth the #1 pick IMO. Think young Paul Pierce with better play-making skills.

emunney · Post #1593 » by **emunney** » Fri Nov 5, 2021 3:16 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Cade right now seems like he's got dead legs on his jumper. It'll come around. But look beyond the shooting efficiency and you can see a guy who's just natural and fluid running an offense. I see a lot of Middleton/Brandon Roy there.

Yep, he's going to be fine. But would you take him #1 in a re-draft?

emunney · Post #1594 » by **emunney** » Fri Nov 5, 2021 3:21 pm

RogerMurdock wrote:
Pachinko_ wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Cade right now seems like he's got dead legs on his jumper. It'll come around. But look beyond the shooting efficiency and you can see a guy who's just natural and fluid running an offense. I see a lot of Middleton/Brandon Roy there.

With all the hindsight in the world, would you draft Middleton with the #1 pick?

Not in the 2012 draft (it was a bad draft class - he'd go REALLY high in a redraft - maybe #3 behind Brow and Lillard?), but if I picked someone #1 and they turned out like Khris, I wouldn't be upset.

I'd say 5 would be Khris' absolute floor (Draymond, Beal).

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1595 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Fri Nov 5, 2021 3:56 pm

emunney wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Cade right now seems like he's got dead legs on his jumper. It'll come around. But look beyond the shooting efficiency and you can see a guy who's just natural and fluid running an offense. I see a lot of Middleton/Brandon Roy there.

Yep, he's going to be fine. But would you take him #1 in a re-draft?

It's an interesting question and hate to overreact to two weeks of hoops but Mobley and Barnes would have to be considered.

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emunney · Post #1596 » by **emunney** » Fri Nov 5, 2021 4:20 pm

IIRC Ron wouldn't have taken Cade #1 overall in the original draft, so maybe not a relevant question.

Ron Swanson · Post #1597 » by **Ron Swanson** » Fri Nov 5, 2021 4:22 pm

Mobley you'd have to consider even this early (he looks like a generational talent), but Barnes? Nah. He's getting the "rookie in a good organization vs. rookie on a dumpster fire team" treatment. Put Cade or Suggs in Toronto and they'd both look a hell of a lot better as well.

Ayt · Post #1598 » by **Ayt** » Fri Nov 5, 2021 4:50 pm

Barnes flat out knows how to play and is just scratching the surface of his playmaking ability.

machu46 · Post #1599 » by **machu46** » Fri Nov 5, 2021 8:54 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Cade right now seems like he's got dead legs on his jumper. It'll come around. But look beyond the shooting efficiency and you can see a guy who's just natural and fluid running an offense. I see a lot of Middleton/Brandon Roy there.

Yeah, Middleton is the guy that he's reminded me of dating back to his college tape.

Milbucks96 · Post #1600 » by **Milbucks96** » Fri Nov 5, 2021 9:08 pm

Ayt wrote:Barnes flat out knows how to play and is just scratching the surface of his playmaking ability.

He’s way better than I thought he was, I see a longer, more athletic draymond, with better scoring but a little less passing. I’m very interested in his development because he can turn into anything. The raptors did good last year because they really could’ve regrouped after all the injuries and players missing due to Covid and shot for a play-in spot but just tanked and got a young core piece movie forward. I wonder is they pivot again this year halfway through the season and try to get another high pick.