Can anybody catch the Knicks in the Atlantic?

[Keith Van Horn]

Beating the knicks means everything to the nets. You guys have an inferiority complex. fact.

And losing to the Nets is the end of the world for the Knicks.

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[poeman]

Brooklyn with a flawed win

- Knicks shot terribly
- Nets were unreal from 3-point land
- Knicks without pg and back up center
- Nets turnovers are a problem if you have not noticed

Knicks still found a way to come back through this but continued to have trouble creating shots without Felton and they were 29% from FG...

Nets had like 20 turnovers and were shooting lights out. Still it was close today...It's a weak loss, nothing serious

what is wrong with you people??...the Nets shot 42 % from the floor overall...how is that shooting lights out
also you could say the Nets had 20 turnovers and you still lost.

what a big deal considering you missed my other points...The Nets were lights out from 3-point land, see my bullet point.

Also, why are the Nets fans acting like they won a playoff series after the win?

[therealbig3]

Brooklyn with a flawed win

- Knicks shot terribly
- Nets were unreal from 3-point land
- Knicks without pg and back up center
- Nets turnovers are a problem if you have not noticed

Knicks still found a way to come back through this but continued to have trouble creating shots without Felton and they were 29% from FG...

Nets had like 20 turnovers and were shooting lights out. Still it was close today...It's a weak loss, nothing serious

what is wrong with you people??...the Nets shot 42 % from the floor overall...how is that shooting lights out
also you could say the Nets had 20 turnovers and you still lost.

what a big deal considering you missed my other points...The Nets were lights out from 3-point land, see my bullet point.

Also, why are the Nets fans acting like they won a playoff series after the win?

WTH? No Nets fan is acting like anything, we're responding to the gloating the Knicks have done all season, and the weird bitching that's going on by Knicks fans after the loss, claiming this was a "flawed win" ( , GTFO of here with that nonsense).

Do you even see the title of this thread?

And you failed to include a bullet point for the incredibly biased officiating that was gifting calls to the Knicks all night long.

[JDs_loot]

If I was a real net fan, I'd hate the knicks too. It must be hard hearing knick chants in your own building.

Odd thing to say, since there were "Brooklyn" chants in MSG at the end of the game tonight.

No no no! We're the Yankees, you're lower than the mets. Even if you win a chip, New York will always be a knick town.

The Yankees actually win though...the Knicks don't.

The Knicks are more famous for getting lit up by opposing team's players than actually being good.

Yankees, Mets, Giants, Jets, Rangers, Knicks are ingrained in NY. The nets mean **** to NY.

[rj2496]

If I was a real net fan, I'd hate the knicks too. It must be hard hearing knick chants in your own building.

It also must be hard for Knicks fan to hear the BROOKLYN chants in MSG as the clock hits 0:00 and the Nets walk off the court with a Win.

Like three people chanting? I saw the game, I didn't even hear those chants, but if you say so, fine.

Are you really going to compare fan-bases in NY? Really?

Who here was comparing fan bases? I think every Nets fan can acknowledge the Knicks fan base trumps the Nets by a large margin. After all the Knicks have been around since the 40's and the Nets are a brand new team.

[Keith Van Horn]

[quote="poeman"]Brooklyn with a flawed win

- Knicks shot terribly
- Nets were unreal from 3-point land
- Knicks without pg and back up center
- Nets turnovers are a problem if you have not noticed

Knicks still found a way to come back through this but continued to have trouble creating shots without Felton and they were 29% from FG...

Nets had like 20 turnovers and were shooting lights out. Still it was close today...It's a weak loss, nothing serious

what is wrong with you people??...the Nets shot 42 % from the floor overall...how is that shooting lights out
also you could say the Nets had 20 turnovers and you still lost.

what a big deal considering you missed my other points...The Nets were lights out from 3-point land, see my bullet point.

Also, why are the Nets fans acting like they won a playoff series after the win?

WTH? No Nets fan is acting like anything, we're responding to the gloating the Knicks have done all season, and the weird bitching that's going on by Knicks fans after the loss, claiming this was a "flawed win" ( , GTFO of here with that nonsense).

Do you even see the title of this thread?

And you failed to include a bullet point for the incredibly biased officiating that was gifting calls to the Knicks all night long.[/quote]
The hilariousness of some of these claims is too much. I cant read this anymore... Time to watch end of Bulls-Lakers.


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[therealbig3]

Yankees, Mets, Rangers, Knicks are ingrained in NY. The nets mean **** to NY.

You'd like to think so, but the reality is that the Yankees are in their own tier, and then there's everyone else.

[vincecarter4pres]

Beating the knicks means everything to the nets. You guys have an inferiority complex. fact.

Just out of curiosity, have you ever visited either the Knicks or Nets Boards?

Because on your board there are pretty much literally 2 to 3 uninstigated Nets threads every week where even the ones that are ignored go at least 3 pages and the popular ones go 10 to 15.

There's at least a thread a month started about something a Knicks fan Nets Board lurker took to heart.

Sure we talk about your team here and there, most of us don't like your team at all, but there is maybe 1 or 2 threads a season started on your team and it's usually something thread worthy and relevant.

Knicks fans have an even bigger complex by far and then try to constantly push all that analogy nonsense about we're the Mets and you're the Yankees, etc., but the truth is, we've both been the Mets so far. If anything we're the Mets and you guys are the Jets.

No no no! We're the Yankees, you're lower than the mets. Even if you win a chip, New York will always be a knick town.

You're probably young or you'd remember a couple periods of a little over a half decade when New York City was a Mets town.

Also, you guys who use that analogy don't even get why it's so flawed.

The Yankees are an absolute dynasty. The Evil Empire. A team like a combined Celtics and Lakers of the MLB. Probably the most popular US sports franchise in all the world. A team who has billions of fans, well at least probably a billion. They are mammoth.

The Knicks maybe the winners of the battle of NYC(for now) but they are pretty much irrelevant outside the Tri-State except as a running joke and a novelty.

No one cares about the Knicks country and worldwide for the most part except a few isolated areas here and there, mainly where a large percentage of New Yorkers and heads from NJ have moved, like Florida and North Carolina. Then a couple areas outside the country for whatever reason.

But the Yankees are a marketing juggernaut everywhere. With diehards everywhere who never stepped foot in New York or the surrounding area.

And again, when we're talking about winning, tradition and culture? You guys aren't the Yankees! You're not even the Mets! You are the Jets. A completely mismanaged and horribly run joke of a club who occasionally puts together a semi-strong squad but is usually all about the splashy newspaper headlines and trying to one up the other local teams while forgetting about the big prize or deluding into grandeur about your place in the grand scheme of the race to it. Spend, spend, spend! Trade, trade, trade! Higher the loud mouth coach. Owner talks too much. Weirdo's in the front office making weird moves. Constant media headlines for scandals and corruption. Sorry. You are not the Yankees!

[JDs_loot]

Who here was comparing fan bases? I think every Nets fan can acknowledge the Knicks fan base trumps the Nets by a large margin. After all the Knicks have been around since the 40's and the Nets are a brand new team.

I give you props for admitting that. A lot of net fans won't.

[JDs_loot]

Yankees, Mets, Rangers, Knicks are ingrained in NY. The nets mean **** to NY.

You'd like to think so, but the reality is that the Yankees are in their own tier, and then there's everyone else.

Are you even from NY?

[rj2496]

Who here was comparing fan bases? I think every Nets fan can acknowledge the Knicks fan base trumps the Nets by a large margin. After all the Knicks have been around since the 40's and the Nets are a brand new team.

I give you props for admitting that. A lot of net fans won't.

I'm positive any real Nets fan can acknowledge the Knicks have a bigger fan base. Theres no way around it, it's a fact. I've never seen one Nets fan claim we have a stronger fan base, so I don't know where your getting your conclusions from.

[therealbig3]

Yankees, Mets, Rangers, Knicks are ingrained in NY. The nets mean **** to NY.

You'd like to think so, but the reality is that the Yankees are in their own tier, and then there's everyone else.

Are you even from NY?

NJ...spent plenty of time in NYC, never lived further than 45 minutes away, listen to the FAN and ESPN NY every day...trust me, I know plenty about the sports culture of NY, and the Knicks are not comparable to the Yankees, not even close.

[daschysta]

New York is now 7-9 over their last 16 games if I've counted correctly.

Felton isn't the difference between that and a contending team.

Brooklyn is 12-4 during that period.

Indiana is 12-4 during that period.

Chicago is 10-6 during that period.

New York currently rests one half of a game above Indiana, one game above Brooklyn and either 1.5 or 2.5 games ahead of Chicago pending the result of their current match against the Lakers.

It's very possible, and perhaps even a safe bet considering the way all four teams are trending, that New York will be 5th in the East by the time All-Star break comes.

Raymond Felton isn't the difference between a contender and a below average squad. During their hot start their role players were abnormally hot from 3, unsustainable to be sure. Adding to that teams now are letting Melo get his; if he can, on his own and just shutting down their spot up shooters. New York can't win games simply by having Melo play hero-ball, but Woodson seems unable to adjust. Teams have figured New York out,and now Melo needs to play like a god in order for them to really beat a good team, which he can do sometimes, but not often enough to have a great record.

New York has deeper problems than just missing Felton.

[JDs_loot]

The bottom line is the Nets don't mean anything to most new york sports fans. The knicks don't like the nets because the nets think they can move in on our turf. We take pleasure in your suffering.


The Knicks, Yankees, Rangers, Islanders, Giants, Jets are all more significant then the Nyets, and it's always going to be that way. Deal with it.

[therealbig3]

The Knicks, Yankees, Rangers, Islanders, Giants, Jets are all more significant then the Nyets, and it's always going to be that way. Deal with it.

Sure, but you keep trying to lump in everyone else with the Yankees, and that's just not the case. NY is a Yankees town, first and foremost. Everyone else is a second class citizen in NY, really. In which case the Nets are third class citizens.

And that's only the case for now because the Nets just showed up. GIve them 60-70 years to be a constant presence in NY like the Knicks have been, and they'd be second class citizens too, with a comparable fanbase.

[624]

Brooklyn with a flawed win

- Knicks shot terribly
- Nets were unreal from 3-point land

The first month of the season was a flawed month for the Knicks then if you want to use that logic...

[realball]

Who cares about which team has more fans. What matters is which team is better. And right now, the Nets are looking a lot better. Deal with it.

[JDs_loot]

NJ...spent plenty of time in NYC, never lived further than 45 minutes away, listen to the FAN and ESPN NY every day...trust me, I know plenty about the sports culture of NY, and the Knicks are not comparable to the Yankees, not even close.

We'll I'm from and live in NY, so I'll pull rank on you. The Knicks are more important than the Yanks IN NY. There's plenty of met fans who hate the Yankees. The knicks are New York's team. Face it.

[624]

Felton pretty much lost the Knicks Game 1, and he would have won it this time?


Brook Lopez didn't even play in one of our 2 losses...

[vincecarter4pres]

The bottom line is the Nets don't mean anything to most new york sports fans. The knicks don't like the nets because the nets think they can move in on our turf. We take pleasure in your suffering.


The Knicks, Yankees, Rangers, Islanders, Giants, Jets are all more significant then the Nyets, and it's always going to be that way. Deal with it.

I take this as you having no answer for my Yankees shutdown.

Our suffering?

This is our division now.

And give it 5 to 10 years when all these little heads grow up watching the real winner of New York and we'll see who owns the city.

The Islanders? C'mon son. *Ed Lover voice*

The Rangers is a stretch too, a pretty big one.

The Jets only because Football is massively more popular in general then basketball.

The Yankees have no equal anywhere and as much as it pains me to say, the Giants are a marque franchise.

The Knicks have the much larger fan base right now, but you'll see soon the Nets will be the nationally and worldwide relevant professional basketball team, the Knicks the local heroes all the old dudes at the barber shop cling to and even that probably won't last past this decade.