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dpgcdr wrote:Regarding prostitution, if you hire one, how far can you push the boundaries in terms of consensual activities? Say someone gets sexually aroused by water boarding, they pay a prostitute a good amount of money, can they go ahead and subject her to water boarding if she doesn't consent? If she gets forced to do it and injured, does she have an incentive to go to the authorities and are there any legal consequences for the client?
AndroidMan wrote:basketboule wrote:An experiment:
Imagine sticking a fat, stinking dick real deep inside you for 200 $ or something in that range. Hell, make it 1000 $, but imagine! Now think about how sad this will make you to be so very much in need that this smelly dude noisily rails you and your soul at the moment.
These would be the only feelings I could have when having a prostitute: pity and sadness.
Dude spending $1000 for a women likely has the money to blow and is likely not smelly. Think about lawyers, doctors, and business men. And from my experience, women are turned on by dude's with money regardless of their looks. In fact, i can name quite a few who've married or slept their way into money with some very unattractive men. Women are attracted and seduced by men with lots of money. Try again.
greenhughes wrote:spree8 wrote:Thorn wrote:
What bothers me, is that men would delude themselves into thinking the women involved are super into sex with them. I also intend no offense, but this is part of the fantasy these girls are selling.
Even the biggest nympho has his or her limits, and they want to have sex with partners of their choosing. Now are their dirty tramps who want to bang every man walking without regard for what they look, taste, and smell like? Sure, Ill buy that but I am going to go out on a limb and say those numbers are VERY LOW.
Then the whole "The see girls are artists who enjoy plying their trade, enjoy the act, and work hard to pleasure you because they care about their job" that is kind of crazy talk... do they want you to come back? Sure some of you, not all of you. But not because they want you to be happy, or because they want your approval as sex partners... but because they want your money.
Don't fool yourself into thinking they like it, or you... that really makes you look like a sucker.
Sorry.
Remember they are there for your money, and you are there for their body. YOU might crave their approval "I aint no punk, you like this don't you baby"... sure as much as I like going to my 9 - 5 and I don't have fat, sweaty, disgusting men laying on top of me all day with skin conditions. Now are there good looking professionals who are Johns? Sure there are but I am willing to bet a fair number are pretty much disgusting.
Also even high priced call girls who might have fewer clients and a better quality of client are not necessarily into their jobs, even if they have horrible daddy issues and get paid very well. Some sure, but again you have to be talking about a minority... at the end of the day you are trading bodily fluids for money with people not of your choosing. (yeah yeah I know some can refuse work).
The argument being made that girls who are not prostitutes are JUST as likely to have diseases or MORE so is in fact laughable. Are prostitutes getting checked more often than housewives? Sure, some may be but they are also banging thousands of guys a year not one or two. SO the chances they are going the exposed to a disease is greater by a magnitude of thousands. EVEN if their own husbands cheat on them and have a mistress.
Lets be honest with our selves about what this is and what it isnt.
Bud, it doesn't seem like you're being very reasonable on the topic..
Sure, not every prostitute loves to be with every single client, and of course they may put on an act to make their client feel better because that's what their business is...to show their client a good time, and they can certainly enjoy giving a man what he's lacking in life. In addition, they are human, and if they have an attractive client they can genuinely have a fun time for sure. It's not like some fat old guy comes in and thrusts himself onto her and then bounces...these girls are schmoozed and romanced for the most part to the point where they establish some report ...as result they are comfortable and legitimately willing to satisfy.
Also, as some of us are saying, in regards to the top level girls, they're absolutely not having sex with 1000 men a year. The ones I've talked to say they have maybe 3 men per week max...some of those men request more than a standard hour. They may book them for a whole day or even two and take them out to lavish places as their escort. Again, they only do this a few months a year, so let's say 5 months...their rates are approx $800-$1000 per hour.
Do the math...for arguments sake, let's say they get one all day session out of the 3 per week, and 2 one hour sessions. Let's say the all day session is like, I dunno, approximately a $5000 special, then add two $1000 days...that's $7000 a week, times 4 weeks= $28,000 a month times 5 months =$140,000 per year and only 60 men per year for a couple years until they finish school most likely or open up a business of their own or something...whatever their goal is.
Again, the level of protection they go to ensure they don't catch any diseases...they use rubbers for intercourse and oral, and some don't even kiss. So where exactly would the infection come from? Although it may be possible for high level clients to carry diseases, it's not as frequent as some scumbag off the street looking to bang a 2 dollar hooker.
I know plenty of girls who have had sex with a dude without protection, as well as dudes I know that have had unprotected sex with girls...hell I've done it myself in the heat of the moment when I was younger and stupid...thank god I didn't catch anything, but the fact is that all of us were susceptible to catching something. I'm sure plenty of people here either have done that or know someone who has...therefore, even if it's only %1 of all girls that have slipped up once, the fact is that 100% of prostitutes use protection...that's just the fundamental rule...that statistic alone can argue that point that they are disease ridden. They are probably more likely to get an infection from drug use if we are talking about cheap hookers.
You almost make it seem like the only girls in the world who carry diseases are prostitutes. I used to be in the medical field and it's shocking the things you see and hear about people getting infected. It's funny you mention house wives because I recall one situation where a wife cheated on her husband, caught an std and gave it to her husband. It's possible to get diseases in the most unlikely of situations, but prostitutes are predominantly very careful...especially the top level.
Bottom line is that prostitution has been around for...well, damn near forever...millions of men take part in it, whether they admit it or not...this consists of the highest class of men through the lowest as well as women. It also consists of men who have no problem getting women on their own and those who depend upon their companionship ...even for married men.
Also, regarding that poll...where the hell was I when they ran that? I was never asked...and I'm sure all the people I know weren't...so how can stuff like that be accurate when they aren't asking all of the men in the USA? It actually says how unreliable the study is within the study lol.
RottenApple wrote:
actually you cant generalize here..
Im from germany and prostitution is legal.
I dunno about hookas from the street and all those "dirty" and illegal stuff about prostituion.. But i can tell you, the places for this kind of amusment in many cities around germany, and im sure germany is not the only place, are perfectly clean. The girls work for like 3-5 hours and most of the time they have less than 3 customers, they surely have safe sex and look perfectly neat. There are showers and fresh towels all over the place.. Its not like you go there, do your 20 minute program and leave. One hangs out, talks to the girls, you can eat, drink, dance, everything. When you are "done" its still a good time with your buddys afterwards.
I mean, i totally respect and understand the fact, that probably most men would rather go without a lay before paying for it, feeling dirty, used or whatever. At the same time i find it very appealing just to have good sex without emotional connections, just for the sake of the fk with a beautiful woman.
Obviously this topic is highly too situational and different on so many occasions, its pretty hard to give "trustworthy" insight. And im not even mentioning the difference of moral views and social norms between all those generations we have on this forum
its just, you cant generalize..
greenhughes wrote:Look if that's what you wanna do, do it. Just don't be surprised when some think it's nasty. I don't care how you cut it these women have multiple men run up in them on the regular for money. It's playing with fire. Condoms don't stop everything.
Now if your single, fine. Gamble with your own life, but if married or in a "monogamous" relationship and sleeping with hoes on the side.....your a piece of sh*t that is not only playing with your own life but with the life of the one you supposedly "love"....I will never respect or condone that.
PaulieWal wrote:darkdrone wrote:prophet_of_rage wrote:Why do athletes visit prostitutes?
Cheaper, no dining out, won't bitch at you about something and will leave after you bust your nut.
And most importantly no risk of baby mama drama with child support and such.
HixNixKnicksTix wrote:PaulieWal wrote:darkdrone wrote:
Cheaper, no dining out, won't bitch at you about something and will leave after you bust your nut.
And most importantly no risk of baby mama drama with child support and such.
most importantly, right? that's the most important thing. most important. hit the nail on the head, guy who can't get laid without cash.
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darkdrone wrote:echelonNYK wrote:Nah. But a while back i was at this Bus Station and this woman came by and on a occasion would look at me and even sat next to me at one point. I wasn't really feeling her like that so i kinda just ignored it.
Wow some guys clearly don't know when a woman is interested and when a women is minding her own business.
Winseb wrote:Being a het female I've never had any experience with a prostitute, male or female. When I was just a young adult in college however I knew a lot of women that were into that business, and men that didn't mind shelling out large amounts of cash for escorts. I would never dabble in it myself, but I don't look down on anybody that does because everybody has various reasons for doing so.
And everyone talking about STDs and stuff like that, that definitely rings true for those cheap azz, drugged up escorts you'd pick up off the streets, but the professionals and even the non-professionals that have built up reps will almost always be clean. I mean, just think about it-- it's what they do, if they ever had anything they'd be easily found out and would lose everything, especially here in the states where you can get tested easily. I don't know about some countries though, even the ones where it's completely legalized they seem suspect as hell.
greenhughes wrote:AndroidMan wrote:basketboule wrote:An experiment:
Imagine sticking a fat, stinking dick real deep inside you for 200 $ or something in that range. Hell, make it 1000 $, but imagine! Now think about how sad this will make you to be so very much in need that this smelly dude noisily rails you and your soul at the moment.
These would be the only feelings I could have when having a prostitute: pity and sadness.
Dude spending $1000 for a women likely has the money to blow and is likely not smelly. Think about lawyers, doctors, and business men. And from my experience, women are turned on by dude's with money regardless of their looks. In fact, i can name quite a few who've married or slept their way into money with some very unattractive men. Women are attracted and seduced by men with lots of money. Try again.
You need to as well. All women are not like that sir.
HixNixKnicksTix wrote:greenhughes wrote:Look if that's what you wanna do, do it. Just don't be surprised when some think it's nasty. I don't care how you cut it these women have multiple men run up in them on the regular for money. It's playing with fire. Condoms don't stop everything.
Now if your single, fine. Gamble with your own life, but if married or in a "monogamous" relationship and sleeping with hoes on the side.....your a piece of sh*t that is not only playing with your own life but with the life of the one you supposedly "love"....I will never respect or condone that.
AndroidMan wrote:greenhughes wrote:AndroidMan wrote:
Dude spending $1000 for a women likely has the money to blow and is likely not smelly. Think about lawyers, doctors, and business men. And from my experience, women are turned on by dude's with money regardless of their looks. In fact, i can name quite a few who've married or slept their way into money with some very unattractive men. Women are attracted and seduced by men with lots of money. Try again.
You need to as well. All women are not like that sir.
I never spoke in absolute terms. Was just responding to discredit his assumption. I'd also make a further general assumption that girl working at high rates is at least intrigued by men with large amounts of cash, as those are the clientele that interest her. There have been scientific studies that backs up the general claim I made however, and while not absolute in any terms, it does appear that women are more generally attracted to men with money.
greenhughes wrote:AndroidMan wrote:greenhughes wrote:You need to as well. All women are not like that sir.
I never spoke in absolute terms. Was just responding to discredit his assumption. I'd also make a further general assumption that girl working at high rates is at least intrigued by men with large amounts of cash, as those are the clientele that interest her. There have been scientific studies that backs up the general claim I made however, and while not absolute in any terms, it does appear that women are more generally attracted to men with money.
That's why so many broke dudes have girls right? I don't agree with what you said. All or even most women are not like that. Most women will take a man they are attracted to that they see future potential in.
HixNixKnicksTix wrote:RottenApple wrote:
actually you cant generalize here..
Im from germany and prostitution is legal.
I dunno about hookas from the street and all those "dirty" and illegal stuff about prostituion.. But i can tell you, the places for this kind of amusment in many cities around germany, and im sure germany is not the only place, are perfectly clean. The girls work for like 3-5 hours and most of the time they have less than 3 customers, they surely have safe sex and look perfectly neat. There are showers and fresh towels all over the place.. Its not like you go there, do your 20 minute program and leave. One hangs out, talks to the girls, you can eat, drink, dance, everything. When you are "done" its still a good time with your buddys afterwards.
I mean, i totally respect and understand the fact, that probably most men would rather go without a lay before paying for it, feeling dirty, used or whatever. At the same time i find it very appealing just to have good sex without emotional connections, just for the sake of the fk with a beautiful woman.
Obviously this topic is highly too situational and different on so many occasions, its pretty hard to give "trustworthy" insight. And im not even mentioning the difference of moral views and social norms between all those generations we have on this forum
its just, you cant generalize..
yeah everyone. you can't generalize.
RottenApple wrote:HixNixKnicksTix wrote:RottenApple wrote:
actually you cant generalize here..
Im from germany and prostitution is legal.
I dunno about hookas from the street and all those "dirty" and illegal stuff about prostituion.. But i can tell you, the places for this kind of amusment in many cities around germany, and im sure germany is not the only place, are perfectly clean. The girls work for like 3-5 hours and most of the time they have less than 3 customers, they surely have safe sex and look perfectly neat. There are showers and fresh towels all over the place.. Its not like you go there, do your 20 minute program and leave. One hangs out, talks to the girls, you can eat, drink, dance, everything. When you are "done" its still a good time with your buddys afterwards.
I mean, i totally respect and understand the fact, that probably most men would rather go without a lay before paying for it, feeling dirty, used or whatever. At the same time i find it very appealing just to have good sex without emotional connections, just for the sake of the fk with a beautiful woman.
Obviously this topic is highly too situational and different on so many occasions, its pretty hard to give "trustworthy" insight. And im not even mentioning the difference of moral views and social norms between all those generations we have on this forum
its just, you cant generalize..
yeah everyone. you can't generalize.
im not even debating with stupid superficial people who are stuck in 1970
