Who to trade to clear cap space if we get GH?

[Drax]

So you're saying Lee, Zeller and Sullinger weren't starters here?

This debate is over. You're just trying to troll now. Don't twist my words and the context of this conversation. Once you will go back to my intial (counter-)point wing > traditional big and thought about it we can continue. But so far all you have done is try to shift things your way and not read what i've written.

[Homerclease]

So you're saying Lee, Zeller and Sullinger weren't starters here?

This debate is over. You're just trying to troll now. Don't twist my words and the context of this conversation. Once you will go back to my intial (counter-)point wing > traditional big and thought about it we can continue. But so far all you have done is try to shift things your way and not read what i've written.

I honestly have no idea what your point is. We've brought in traditional big after traditional big and sans Mickey we've tried them all as a starting option. I have no idea what return you are expecting in a salary dump of Crowder Bradley or Smart but I expect you're going to be disappointed when it isn't what you think it's gonna be

[OBisHalJordan]

I hope Bradley stays and Crowder and Smart go in trade for another big. I hope Wyc and the rest of the venture capitalist, finance capital **** in the ownership group go into luxury tax hell to build the best team.

[Green89]

Sign and trade for Green from Memphis should be explored, but they may keep him now that Randolph is gone. We could use his defense since we're going to lose some D.

[GregB]

I can see why Danny is floating all 3 of these guys. People know we need to create room which lowers our leverage considerably. But by offer all 3 we can at least test all 3 markets and give us a wide variety of moves beyond just a salary dump.

Smart for a rookie contract big or a second rounder is the most likely scenario tough.

[jbent87]

I can see why Danny is floating all 3 of these guys. People know we need to create room which lowers our leverage considerably. But by offer all 3 we can at least test all 3 markets and give us a wide variety of moves beyond just a salary dump.

Smart for a rookie contract big or a second rounder is the most likely scenario tough.

by floating all 3 and probably only moving 1 doesn't DA risk losing trust with the other 2? Not sure what the specific follow up of that is w those players but dangling 3 guys in trade talks as a better strategy than just dangling 1 seems like reaching a little bit.

[zronv7]

Crowder, need to give Tatum and Brown as much PT as possible

[GregB]

I can see why Danny is floating all 3 of these guys. People know we need to create room which lowers our leverage considerably. But by offer all 3 we can at least test all 3 markets and give us a wide variety of moves beyond just a salary dump.

Smart for a rookie contract big or a second rounder is the most likely scenario tough.

by floating all 3 and probably only moving 1 doesn't DA risk losing trust with the other 2? Not sure what the specific follow up of that is w those players but dangling 3 guys in trade talks as a better strategy than just dangling 1 seems like reaching a little bit.

Nah I still think Danny plans another follow up move. I think 2-3 if not all 3 of Smart, Bradley and Crowder will be gone when the season opens up.

Smart needs to go first to be able to sign Gordon. But I still see us packaging Bradley and Crowder a player making about 20 million.

The Marc Gasol rumor makes a lot of sense. He's a little older but he got maxed under the old CBA. So he's affordable and old enough he will likely take a pay cut on his next deal. He spaces the floor and certainly meshes well with our style of play.

[OBisHalJordan]

I can see why Danny is floating all 3 of these guys. People know we need to create room which lowers our leverage considerably. But by offer all 3 we can at least test all 3 markets and give us a wide variety of moves beyond just a salary dump.

Smart for a rookie contract big or a second rounder is the most likely scenario tough.

by floating all 3 and probably only moving 1 doesn't DA risk losing trust with the other 2? Not sure what the specific follow up of that is w those players but dangling 3 guys in trade talks as a better strategy than just dangling 1 seems like reaching a little bit.

Nah I still think Danny plans another follow up move. I think 2-3 if not all 3 of Smart, Bradley and Crowder will be gone when the season opens up.

Smart needs to go first to be able to sign Gordon. But I still see us packaging Bradley and Crowder a player making about 20 million.

The Marc Gasol rumor makes a lot of sense. He's a little older but he got maxed under the old CBA. So he's affordable and old enough he will likely take a pay cut on his next deal. He spaces the floor and certainly meshes well with our style of play.

Gasol is also a subpar rebounder for big man. Him and Horford seem a bit redundant. I don't like the idea of rolling out two finesse big men.

[jeremym480]

I'm so torn about this because each player has their pros and cons.

Bradley - In my opinion is the best of the three and would be a perfect fit beside IT and Hayward. However, he is in the last year of his deal and unless Wyc wants to go deep into the luxury tax, then we likely will lose him next offseason.

Crowder - His best quality is his contract. Also, without him we could have a hole at PF (assuming he's ok with mainly playing PF and a trade for one of the other two doesn't bring a good one back). His defense against LeBron would be missed in the playoffs.

Smart - Still very young and improving, is a bulldog on defense, can guard 1-3 and can run the offense better than anyone else if IT misses some time to start the season. He is also in the last year of his deal, but I would guess that he will not cost as much as Bradley.

I guess it all depends on the return each player would get back and honestly I'm not certain which player has the most value on the market given their contract situations. I feel like Crowder is more needed against Cleveland, while Smart/Bradley are more needed against Golden State. Of course, we have to get past Cleveland to get to GS, so

[fallguy]

I no longer want to be emotionally invested in Marcus Smart's shooting improvements.

Therefore he is my choice.

What improvements. Hasn't gotten better in 4 years and is up for a contract. The most likely scenario is Smart for a second rounder.

It's almost like you don't know how to read.

[theman]

I can see why Danny is floating all 3 of these guys. People know we need to create room which lowers our leverage considerably. But by offer all 3 we can at least test all 3 markets and give us a wide variety of moves beyond just a salary dump.

Smart for a rookie contract big or a second rounder is the most likely scenario tough.

by floating all 3 and probably only moving 1 doesn't DA risk losing trust with the other 2? Not sure what the specific follow up of that is w those players but dangling 3 guys in trade talks as a better strategy than just dangling 1 seems like reaching a little bit.

Nah I still think Danny plans another follow up move. I think 2-3 if not all 3 of Smart, Bradley and Crowder will be gone when the season opens up.

Smart needs to go first to be able to sign Gordon. But I still see us packaging Bradley and Crowder a player making about 20 million.

The Marc Gasol rumor makes a lot of sense. He's a little older but he got maxed under the old CBA. So he's affordable and old enough he will likely take a pay cut on his next deal. He spaces the floor and certainly meshes well with our style of play.

Bradley+Smart+Crowder = 20.1 million
Gasol = 22 million

Doesn't work in cutting salary.

Deals that could work
Bradley + Crowder for Faried
Bradley + Crowder for Gortat
Bradley + Crowder for Tyson Chandler
Bradley + Crowder for Favors

[Slartibartfast]

AB/Crowder/Jackson to Charlotte for the other Zeller and a future pick.

Cody is a pretty good fit. Excellent PNR defender on one end and great roll man on the other. Tough. Not a great rebounder numbers wise but competes and throws his body around (not an accident Charlotte one of the very best defensive rebounding teams). No range but he can pass and set mean screens.

[FlatearthZorro]

I wouldn't mind trading Avery for future middling 1st and cap relief. I love Avery, he grew on me, but I actually believe Jaylen can handle the 2 and maybe we can sign a guy like Tony Allen to help guarding some of these explosive scorers till Jaylen sharpens his skills.

[FlatearthZorro]

AB/Crowder/Jackson to Charlotte for the other Zeller and a future pick.

Cody is a pretty good fit. Excellent PNR defender on one end and great roll man on the other. Tough. Not a great rebounder numbers wise but competes and throws his body around (not an accident Charlotte one of the very best defensive rebounding teams). No range but he can pass and set mean screens.

He's actually the best Zeller there is, easily. How many years does he have? Aren't we gonna make CHA better? Do we wanna help potential opponents?

[eris]

I can see why Danny is floating all 3 of these guys. People know we need to create room which lowers our leverage considerably. But by offer all 3 we can at least test all 3 markets and give us a wide variety of moves beyond just a salary dump.

Smart for a rookie contract big or a second rounder is the most likely scenario tough.

by floating all 3 and probably only moving 1 doesn't DA risk losing trust with the other 2? Not sure what the specific follow up of that is w those players but dangling 3 guys in trade talks as a better strategy than just dangling 1 seems like reaching a little bit.

Nah I still think Danny plans another follow up move. I think 2-3 if not all 3 of Smart, Bradley and Crowder will be gone when the season opens up.

Smart needs to go first to be able to sign Gordon. But I still see us packaging Bradley and Crowder a player making about 20 million.

The Marc Gasol rumor makes a lot of sense. He's a little older but he got maxed under the old CBA. So he's affordable and old enough he will likely take a pay cut on his next deal. He spaces the floor and certainly meshes well with our style of play.

I hate to lose those 3, but I think Danny is going to do his best to move all of them. One now to clear cap space and the other two for a big and maybe a vet backup guard. I really think Danny is going to move to consolidate now.

[Baller1234a]

AB/Crowder/Jackson to Charlotte for the other Zeller and a future pick.

Cody is a pretty good fit. Excellent PNR defender on one end and great roll man on the other. Tough. Not a great rebounder numbers wise but competes and throws his body around (not an accident Charlotte one of the very best defensive rebounding teams). No range but he can pass and set mean screens.

Like this trade

[eris]

AB/Crowder/Jackson to Charlotte for the other Zeller and a future pick.

Cody is a pretty good fit. Excellent PNR defender on one end and great roll man on the other. Tough. Not a great rebounder numbers wise but competes and throws his body around (not an accident Charlotte one of the very best defensive rebounding teams). No range but he can pass and set mean screens.

Like this trade

Yeah, I could get aboard the Zeller train again.

[Slartibartfast]

AB/Crowder/Jackson to Charlotte for the other Zeller and a future pick.

Cody is a pretty good fit. Excellent PNR defender on one end and great roll man on the other. Tough. Not a great rebounder numbers wise but competes and throws his body around (not an accident Charlotte one of the very best defensive rebounding teams). No range but he can pass and set mean screens.

He's actually the best Zeller there is, easily. How many years does he have? Aren't we gonna make CHA better? Do we wanna help potential opponents?

Yeah, that does make Charlotte a lot more dangerous. Walker/AB/Crowder/Marvin/Dwight. Plus Lamb/Monk/MKG/Kaminsky off the bench. That's probably a 50 win team.

So maybe not!

[Gomes3PC]

I can see why Danny is floating all 3 of these guys. People know we need to create room which lowers our leverage considerably. But by offer all 3 we can at least test all 3 markets and give us a wide variety of moves beyond just a salary dump.

Smart for a rookie contract big or a second rounder is the most likely scenario tough.

Oh without a doubt. Just because Bradley is the most logical, doesn't mean you shouldn't evaluate all of them. If someone bowls you over for Crowder, you take it. Reality just dictates though that you need a lot more return for Jae knowing that in 12 months, you're likely to lose Avery / Smart anyways if you plan to re-sign IT.