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Re: Knicks vs Cavs PG thread. Knicks tied with Nets for 8! 

Post#161 » by Louielou » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:16 pm

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22-26 with KP

6-27 (soon to be 28) without him.

He's the reason we are not in the bottom 5. Dotson won the Miami game. Two other wins have come against Chicago and Orlando which could barely beat a G league team.

If KP is healthy, he and Frank, Kornet, Hicks, and Dotson don't go 6-27.

Philly doesn't win just 10 games in 2015-16 if Embiid is playing regardless if the others around him are vets or not. We could never tank as long as KP was healthy. We have the 3rd worst record in the NBA since he went down. Seems like we did a decent job losing.


Sans KP are you saying that with all the vets Jeff plays we don’t win more than 10 games?

PHI took their lumps for 82 games and let the kids develop.

Let’s see what the organization does next year being in a similar situation.



Phoenix has 20 wins, the least amount in the league. Without KP we will be 6-28, a 15 win pace. I have no idea how we would do over an entire season without KP but we would EASILY be top 3, probably worse than that.

Philly's two best players weren't even playing during those 82 games. The only reason they are in the position they are in is because of Simmons and Embiid. One they got because he was injured in college, the other they got because Embiid was hurt for two years. Saric played 26 minutes a game as a rookie at age 23. Frank plays 22 minutes per game at 19. What "kids" do we have that haven't been playing? Dotson? The one that counts has played.

Next year we are going to lose a ton without KP but he's going to be back so I doubt we are a top 3 bottom team.



I love KP but it took more than losing him to cause this late season slide. Do you think we'd be that same 22-26 if we didn't have Frank taking in more lumps, experimented with different lineups, or have a tank commander like Mudiay at the helm. As much as I dislike them Kanter, and THjr contributed way more to team success than your typical "lets take a flyer on" minimum vet.
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Re: Knicks vs Cavs PG thread. Knicks tied with Nets for 8! 

Post#162 » by Rock Bottom » Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:22 am

*walks in and sees score* o_O;
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Re: Knicks vs Cavs PG thread. Knicks tied with Nets for 8! 

Post#163 » by CDAZ » Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:27 am

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Re: Knicks vs Cavs PG thread. Knicks tied with Nets for 8! 

Post#164 » by Rock Bottom » Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:27 am

*shakes head at these cavs announcers* and i thought boston's were bad
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Post#165 » by jermsknicks » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:15 am

The Knicks, even when we win....we lose.
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Re: Knicks vs Cavs PG thread. Knicks tied with Nets for 8! 

Post#166 » by F N 11 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:19 am

Duel post game thread?
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Post#167 » by GettinitDone » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:21 am

Kornet looks good, can he be one of our young players to build around? :)
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Post#168 » by Dantares » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:23 am

K P 6 wrote:Duel post game thread?


screw it i will change the title then since nobody is making a PG thread.
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Post#169 » by Fury » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:25 am

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Post#170 » by mpharris36 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:26 am

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Post#171 » by El Poochio » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:26 am

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Post#172 » by Dantares » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:27 am

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Young is probably a bad fit next to Burke but man oh man if we can get our hands on one of those other guys this crap year will have been worth it.
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Post#173 » by omerome » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:29 am

I just have to say that tanking games is bovine excrement. Losing games to gain favorable draft/playoff position is stupid and losing games because you are scared a player gets injured is also stupid.

Why should teams that fail on purpose get rewarded? And teams that try to win get punished?

Not just this season, but over the years as well. Teams should not get favorable rewards for losing. Simply put, if you lose, do a better job of developing your players, using your cap space more responsibly. Hire better management/coaching staff. It shouldn't be hoping to get bailed out by a high draft pick.

I won't hate the players for trying to win. They are simply doing their job. So criticizing them for doing what they're paid to do doesn't make sense.

But the system right now is so broken. It's like if you come in 10th place in a race you still get $1000. What kind of crap is that?
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Post#174 » by levendis » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:30 am

Dantares wrote:Sexton
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Young is probably a bad fit next to Burke but man oh man if we can get our hands on one of those other guys this crap year will have been worth it.


It's going to be Miles Bridges
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Post#175 » by Greenie » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:30 am

I don’t want Wally back next year.
He can leave with Heffe.
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Post#176 » by Dantares » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:31 am

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Dantares wrote:Sexton
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Young is probably a bad fit next to Burke but man oh man if we can get our hands on one of those other guys this crap year will have been worth it.


It's going to be Miles Bridges


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Post#177 » by El Poochio » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:31 am

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Post#178 » by KnicksGadfly » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:34 am

well, at least we know that we'd be first in the d-league.

Goodbye KOQ, goodbye Beasley, goodbye Jeff, goodbye Jack.

Hope to see you gone next year too, Kanter.

See you next year Kornet. 2 year 10 million contract with a player option.
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Post#179 » by TheGreenArrow » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:35 am

**** you perry
**** you mills
**** you jeff

And **** the New York Knicks!!!!!!!!

ON THE ROAD TO THE LOTTERY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Knicks vs Cavs PG thread continued. Knicks finish with 9th worst record 

Post#180 » by mpharris36 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:38 am

Greenie wrote:I don’t want Wally back next year.
He can leave with Heffe.


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