Anthony Davis Requests Trade, pt 2

[SmartWentCrazy]

These Kyrie sitting out conspiracies are ridiculous guys. Smitty says he's injured. Some guys here have said the same thing.

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Seriously. Like some of the people on this board are legit insane right now.

Also, unless Kyrie tells Danny he's only staying if we get AD or if he told Danny he's considering leaving, Danny has no reason to question his commitment to the team. So why would you trade him? This roster is young and only getting better. It's completely non-sensical to trade Kyrie if he's still committed to the team, even if you don't get AD.

You guys really all need to calm the f*** down.

Yeah really, we've got guys on here ready to replace Kyrie with Lonzo Ball and his nutcase father.


Get ahold of yourselves guys.

Yo— relax! Its okay to spit-ball ideas that others dislike.

Most likely scenario is us with Kyrie and AD. But if AD goes to LA and Kyrie tells Ainge he’s thinking of leaving, Ainge will not hesitate to deal him.

Cant put all of your eggs into one basket— you need backup plan after backup plan so you dont get caught flat-footed in the chaos.

Chaos is a ladder, and Ainge will use it to climb over any and everyone.

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im slighty **** with ya’ll, been rewatching GoT and waiting to drop that quote

[Jakeopp]

Seriously. Like some of the people on this board are legit insane right now.

Also, unless Kyrie tells Danny he's only staying if we get AD or if he told Danny he's considering leaving, Danny has no reason to question his commitment to the team. So why would you trade him? This roster is young and only getting better. It's completely non-sensical to trade Kyrie if he's still committed to the team, even if you don't get AD.

You guys really all need to calm the f*** down.

Trust me, Danny Ainge knows a lot more about Kyrie then any of us will ever know including the media and our good friend Keith Smith.

Also....Danny hasn't dealt Rozier. Not over the summer when his value was sky high, and hasn't yet during the season. Pair that with Kyrie continuously stating that Rozier is a starting guard in this league....idk it all just seems fishy, almost as if Danny and Kyrie are on the same page....AD or KD to Boston or I am out.

Anyway, I still think AD/Kyrie are Celtics long term. Put that on the scorecard for my prediction

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I'll give you the first part about not trading him, but what's Kyrie supposed to say about Rozier? That he's a career backup?

[Celts17Pride]

Seriously. Like some of the people on this board are legit insane right now.

Also, unless Kyrie tells Danny he's only staying if we get AD or if he told Danny he's considering leaving, Danny has no reason to question his commitment to the team. So why would you trade him? This roster is young and only getting better. It's completely non-sensical to trade Kyrie if he's still committed to the team, even if you don't get AD.

You guys really all need to calm the f*** down.

Trust me, Danny Ainge knows a lot more about Kyrie then any of us will ever know including the media and our good friend Keith Smith.

Also....Danny hasn't dealt Rozier. Not over the summer when his value was sky high, and hasn't yet during the season. Pair that with Kyrie continuously stating that Rozier is a starting guard in this league....idk it all just seems fishy, almost as if Danny and Kyrie are on the same page....AD or KD to Boston or I am out.

Anyway, I still think AD/Kyrie are Celtics long term. Put that on the scorecard for my prediction

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100% agree. We all might get more clarification by next Thursday on a lot of players. Kyrie, Rozier, Morris, AD etc.

[Turgon]

If we are lucky on lottery night and via Kings get No2 or No3...Morant or Barrett...Then we could tell Pelicans...take 2 of 4 (Tatum & MEM Pick or Brown & Morant/Barrett)...and any combination of that 2 with 2 additional first (for example Clippers pick and our '20) and salary fillers would trump any other offer

They’ll say we’ll take Tatum and the pick, you figure out the fillers.

Tatum, MEM pick, LAC pick, Rozier S&T, Yabusele for AD. Resign Morris

Could leave us with:

Irving/Smart/veteran PG min guy
Brown/Barrett/Dozier
Hayward/Morris/Ojeleye
Davis/Timelord/veteran ring chaser
Horford/Baynes/rookie with our '19pick

Davis, Irving, Horford, Hayward, Brown, Smart, Barrett, Morris, Williams and Baynes...by far the best team in NBA

I used to think a Rozier S&T would work well in a trade like this, but the big problem (aside from having Rozier agree to it) is that he would be a BYC player and therefore only 50% of his salary would be included in our calculations. But for the Pelicans, the whole salary would be accounted for.
Not a deal breaker, but makes it even more difficult.

[big-shot-ROB]

Some of you are overrating Davis. Is he a top-10 player? Sure. Is he a top-5? No a chance. Heck, the best he has been able to carry a team is to an 8th seed. Westbrook carried a bunch of worst scrubs to a 6th seed.

Still I am trading one of Brown or Tatum + everything else for him.

[Dannyboy36]

I would offer Jabari Bird, a bag of potato chips, and a banana peel for Drummond.

To Drummond's credit, he's become a pretty skilled scorer in the post. More than just a lob guy. Not sure I'd give about Jabari for him though.

I had a hard time offering the banana peel as filler, might have been too much.

In all seriousness, does Lebron, AD, and X get you past the Warriors? The team would be gutted. Kawhi would make them interesting but it's a 3 man rotation and Lebald is not getting any younger. I just don't see why the Lakers are attempting to unload the farm because even if they bring in a 3rd star their team will be MLE ring chasers..and not just one or two..like a FULL team of them because they will literally have to dump half their team and picks for AD and then will be capped right out

Absolutely. GS won’t have Cousins. As is, GS is very thin. Awesome but thin. The Lakers will have Lebron, AD,pick your third star, surrounded by cheap vets and shooters. Rondo for one is a quality role player. There’s plenty out there.

[Homerclease]

Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if Ainge made a precursor trade for someone else out there the Pels might like. Or we take on another filler contract for an extra draft pick or something. Anything to sweeten the pot at this point.

Oh, what’s that New Orleans? You like Jonathan Isaac? I think I can make a deal with Orlando to bring him here and keep him on ice for you! No sweat!

[Dannyboy36]

Exactly. Ring chasers.

[Celts17Pride]

Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if Ainge made a precursor trade for someone else out there the Pels might like. Or we take on another filler contract for an extra draft pick or something. Anything to sweeten the pot at this point.

Oh, what’s that New Orleans? You like Jonathan Isaac? I think I can make a deal with Orlando to bring him here and keep him on ice for you! No sweat!

That's why in my opinion it will be interesting to see if Ainge moves Rozier and Morris for a player on a longer deal as a possible filler so the Celtics can keep Smart.

[ViperGTS]

This is getting ridiculous. So now Kyrie is not in the same universe as AD. Now that is an interesting development. A superstar is a superstar no? Now Kyrie is a top 20 player? Man how things change.

Kyrie was cold blooded in the Finals against GS. He is a superstar in any conversation. To say AD is light years ahead of Kyrie is not only disengenous...it’s flat out wrong. Is AD better? Yes as I have stated. However, not by light years. Thats just not right. I had no idea AD was Russell, Wilt and Jordan all rolled into one.

[BillTheGOAT]

No one in the MLB or NFL are dying to play for the Dodgers, Angels, Rams or Chargers. Why are bball players and their agents obsessed about LA?

[Homerclease]

This is getting ridiculous. So now Kyrie is not in the same universe as AD. Now that is an interesting development. A superstar is a superstar no? Now Kyrie is a top 20 player? Man how things change.

Kyrie was cold blooded in the Finals against GS. He is a superstar in any conversation. To say AD is light years ahead of Kyrie is not only disengenous...it’s flat out wrong. Is AD better? Yes as I have stated. However, not by light years. Thats just not right. I had no idea AD was Russell, Wilt and Jordan all rolled into one.

Id argue that AD is a tier if not more above what Kyrie was when we traded for him.

[Jakeopp]

This is getting ridiculous. So now Kyrie is not in the same universe as AD. Now that is an interesting development. A superstar is a superstar no? Now Kyrie is a top 20 player? Man how things change.

Kyrie was cold blooded in the Finals against GS. He is a superstar in any conversation. To say AD is light years ahead of Kyrie is not only disengenous...it’s flat out wrong. Is AD better? Yes as I have stated. However, not by light years. Thats just not right. I had no idea AD was Russell, Wilt and Jordan all rolled into one.

I wouldn't use the term "light years better" but I think AD is clearly in a different tier than Kyrie.

[truth18]

No one in the MLB or NFL are dying to play for the Dodgers, Angels, Rams or Chargers. Why are bball players and their agents obsessed about LA?

LA is a basketball city. It's the basketball players that are treated like true gods. NBA players want to be Magic, Kobe, etc.

No one wants to be Kershaw or Rivers.

[BallerForLife34]

Guys, i know i don't post here regularly.
I don't get the time to do it as much as i would like, but i do read this forum regularly.

But here is my thought about all of this AD trade talk.

I think Danny will not give up all the assets we have for Davis, it's just not his style. I bet that he will definitely try to keep some of them out of the game. And he knows that the Pels don't want to become the rebuilding Lakers. (I mean, it is in their abbreviation NO LA, lol)

Davis is gonna be here after Kyrie signs that contract in Free Agency.

And here is what i think the trade is gonna be.

Brown, Horford (After he opts in, which he definitely will do), Sac, Clippers pick, Cs 2019-2021 and i believe he will throw in some second rounders in there as well.

I believe that his goal is not to go all in on Davis, because he too knows that if he goes all in he might lose everything in the end (Kyrie get's injured again, or Davis misses time in the playoffs and the team is screwed).

I think his goal is to keep Tatum (This team needs a player they drafted to become a star, a homegrown one is something you need on the team. Because realistically looking, Boston always had at least one homegrown star on their championship teams, it's been like that for over 60 years)

Overall i feel Ainge wants to put out a team of Irving, Hayward, Tatum, Davis, Filler (I think he wants to keep Rob Williams as well because that kid is gonna be special) with Smart coming of the bench (Or Gordon)
That is 4 potential all stars (2 Superstars, 2 All Star Players) if Tatum develops (He will, the kid is special. The sky is the limit for him, even if some of you don't think so) and if Hayward get's back to his old self. Now, even if he doesn't. They just need him to be back to good starter level to compete, which i believe Gordon will get back to. (15/5/5 is what i believe he will get back to worst case scenario)

Now for the Memphis pick i believe Danny is gonna try to hold onto that pick (I personally think that pick is pure gold) along with Tatum and Williams. Because i believe that even if Ainge goes for Davis, he just doesn't look at the next 5 years. I think he might be looking for even more insurance in case Kyrie or someone get's injured. And always keeping your options open is what Ainge has done since 2013.

But whatever happens, i believe we are getting AD.

#sayNoLA #screwRichPaul #screwCryBabyJames

[Jakeopp]

No one in the MLB or NFL are dying to play for the Dodgers, Angels, Rams or Chargers. Why are bball players and their agents obsessed about LA?

LA is a basketball city. It's the basketball players that are treated like true gods. NBA players want to be Magic, Kobe, etc.

No one wants to be Kershaw or Rivers.

I wonder why not

[Parliament10]

This is getting ridiculous. So now Kyrie is not in the same universe as AD. Now that is an interesting development. A superstar is a superstar no? Now Kyrie is a top 20 player? Man how things change.

Kyrie was cold blooded in the Finals against GS. He is a superstar in any conversation. To say AD is light years ahead of Kyrie is not only disengenous...it’s flat out wrong. Is AD better? Yes as I have stated. However, not by light years. Thats just not right. I had no idea AD was Russell, Wilt and Jordan all rolled into one.

Id argue that AD is a tier if not more above what Kyrie was when we traded for him.

Davis is a bit above Irving. -- I wouldn't put him as a whole tier above; maybe half a tier.
Irving is decent in his own right, and in his own position.

[ViperGTS]

This is getting ridiculous. So now Kyrie is not in the same universe as AD. Now that is an interesting development. A superstar is a superstar no? Now Kyrie is a top 20 player? Man how things change.

Kyrie was cold blooded in the Finals against GS. He is a superstar in any conversation. To say AD is light years ahead of Kyrie is not only disengenous...it’s flat out wrong. Is AD better? Yes as I have stated. However, not by light years. Thats just not right. I had no idea AD was Russell, Wilt and Jordan all rolled into one.

Id argue that AD is a tier if not more above what Kyrie was when we traded for him.

Davis is a bit above Irving. -- I wouldn't put him as a whole tier above; maybe half a tier.
Irving is decent in his own right, and in his own position.

See that I can agree with. That is sensible. Thank you.

[fallguy]

Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if Ainge made a precursor trade for someone else out there the Pels might like. Or we take on another filler contract for an extra draft pick or something. Anything to sweeten the pot at this point.

Oh, what’s that New Orleans? You like Jonathan Isaac? I think I can make a deal with Orlando to bring him here and keep him on ice for you! No sweat!

That's why in my opinion it will be interesting to see if Ainge moves Rozier and Morris for a player on a longer deal as a possible filler so the Celtics can keep Smart.

This would be a pretty significant tell about his confidence level in acquiring AD.

[jeremym480]

I'm hearing that Dell isn't fielding calls because they're cutting ties with him and possibly Gentry, as well. However, they are waiting until after the All-Star break. Also, whoever is taking over (my guess is Danny Ferry) has been in contact with Ainge and are talking out something for the summer.

This is just my opinion but my guess is that we work something out by taking on Solomon Hill and sending either Horford or Hayward (possibly to a third team). That's something the Lakers or the Knicks would not do because they're trying to build their Big 3's through free agency and taking on Hill would prevent them from doing that.

I think the deal ends up being - AD and Hill for Tatum, Brown/Smart, Hayward/Horford, and at least two 1st (one of them being Memphis for sure).

Then, we try to bring back Morris and Rozier. Wyc says that he doesn't care about the luxury tax, so as long as no one goes crazy and offers them big money then you bring both back for depth and continuity. Plus, since they should both get decent deals then they will be nice trade chips this time next year.