Random Rumor and General Offseason Discussion Thread
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Shams just tweeted that Horford is leaving "strong possibility"
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MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
I went back recently and read Beals comments and I think more than a lot of other guys he really doesn’t want to leave. Losing a lot next year could change that, but I don’t think the Wiz will move him this offseason
The problem is that trading him with one year left on his deal really does impact his trade value. A team like the Pelicans could drop out of the bidding at that point, or at least substantially lower their offer, because they've got one less year to try to make it work. You don't want to get stuck with Beal handing on a name of contenders who he'll considering extending with in the final year of his deal.
cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Rest in peace Mamba. There'll never be another Kobe.
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jbk1234 wrote:MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
I went back recently and read Beals comments and I think more than a lot of other guys he really doesn’t want to leave. Losing a lot next year could change that, but I don’t think the Wiz will move him this offseason
The problem is that trading him with one year left on his deal really does impact his trade value. A team like the Pelicans could drop out of the bidding at that point, or at least substantially lower their offer, because they've got one less year to try to make it work. You don't want to get stuck with Beal handing on a name of contenders who he'll considering extending with in the final year of his deal.
They’re gambling on keeping him. I don’t like the gamble, but I think it’s what they’ll do.
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I guess Hassan Whiteside is opting in and asking for a trade...
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Texas Chuck wrote:https://247sports.com/nba/mavericks/Article/EXCLUSIVE-Clever-puzzle-pieces-DO-give-Lakers-room-for-LeBron-Davis-AND-max-free-agent--132970888/
Not a rumor. Just a piece on the Lakers possibly being able to have max cap space July 6th. For those unfamiliar with David Lord(most of you I'm guessing) he's like the Dallas Smitty in terms of being a real cap nerd. If he says its doable, my guess would be its doable.
Anyway just sharing in case anyone cares. A bit of a read, but not too bad.
Thanks for sharing this, Chuck. I had thought there would be a workaround of some kind but since my job wants me to do stuff hadn’t gotten around to really working on it.
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BBallFreak wrote:I guess Hassan Whiteside is opting in and asking for a trade...
He's another guy who the team should put the onus on the agent to find a trade.
cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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jbk1234 wrote:BBallFreak wrote:I guess Hassan Whiteside is opting in and asking for a trade...
He's another guy who the team should put the onus on the agent to find a trade.
I'm sure they have.
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BBallFreak wrote:I guess Hassan Whiteside is opting in and asking for a trade...
LOL, damn thats cruel. Was going to suggest Blazers can swap Whiteside for ET but just saw he makes 27 mil next yr - unreal and likely another batch of bad contracts coming this summer
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BBallFreak wrote:jbk1234 wrote:BBallFreak wrote:I guess Hassan Whiteside is opting in and asking for a trade...
He's another guy who the team should put the onus on the agent to find a trade.
I'm sure they have.
Whiteside posted something on his Instagram about the Hornets when he was back home in Charlotte, but I hope the team has learned its lesson when it comes to bigs who don't play winning basketball.
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MoneyTalks41890 wrote:?s=21
Seems to me that this may not have been sorted out ahead of time
True. But there is a chance they actually get it back together in time; the idea of shopping the players they are shopping isn't so far fetched.
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Man, Horford would look great in Utah.
Of course he's the kind of player who would look great pretty much anywhere.
Of course he's the kind of player who would look great pretty much anywhere.
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Orlando would probably be willing to offer #46
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LofJ wrote:BBallFreak wrote:jbk1234 wrote:
He's another guy who the team should put the onus on the agent to find a trade.
I'm sure they have.
Whiteside posted something on his Instagram about the Hornets when he was back home in Charlotte, but I hope the team has learned its lesson when it comes to bigs who don't play winning basketball.
I mean the problem to me is CHA doesn’t have bigs that are very good at basketball at all, so Whiteside would be a huge improvement. He’s not Dwight, Kemba could motivate him/
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Who trades a late 1st for Cap Space aka JR Smith’s non guaranteed deal??
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. 
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If it's a late first from this draft, I hope they just cut him.MartinsIzAfraud wrote:Who trades a late 1st for Cap Space aka JR Smith’s non guaranteed deal??
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cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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jbk1234 wrote:If it's a late first from this draft, I hope they just cut him.MartinsIzAfraud wrote:Who trades a late 1st for Cap Space aka JR Smith’s non guaranteed deal??
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When is the guarantee date on Smith? It seems like his value goes up if a team has an agreed to deal and needs the cap space.
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NYG wrote:jbk1234 wrote:If it's a late first from this draft, I hope they just cut him.MartinsIzAfraud wrote:Who trades a late 1st for Cap Space aka JR Smith’s non guaranteed deal??
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When is the guarantee date on Smith? It seems like his value goes up if a team has an agreed to deal and needs the cap space.
June 30th...
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. 
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jbk1234 wrote:If it's a late first from this draft, I hope they just cut him.MartinsIzAfraud wrote:Who trades a late 1st for Cap Space aka JR Smith’s non guaranteed deal??
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So a 2020 1st is more valuable?
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. 
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