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Re: 2021 Brewers Minors/Prospects thread 

Post#161 » by LUKE23 » Mon Aug 1, 2022 7:41 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Four of the Brewers top 10 prospects are CF. Mitchell has the arm to play RF, but so does Wiemer. Obviously neither is a lock to make an impact in Milwaukee, but they'll both get their chances at the major league level somewhere.


6 of their top 10 prospects are OF.

1. Chourio
2. Frelick
3. Wiemer
4. Mitchell
9. Ruiz
10. Perez
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Post#162 » by Ron Swanson » Mon Aug 1, 2022 7:43 pm

At what point do we consider Chourio an untouchable asset, if not already? He's doing **** at 18-years old that only guys like Bryce Harper were doing.
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Post#163 » by dbrodz7 » Mon Aug 1, 2022 7:48 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:At what point do we consider Chourio an untouchable asset, if not already? He's doing **** at 18-years old that only guys like Bryce Harper were doing.


The highest wRC+ for an 18 year old in A ball (min 100 PA) since 2015 in order is: Wander Franco, Fernando Tatis Jr, Vlad Guerrero Jr, Jackson Chourio, Julio Rodriguez, and Ronald Acuna Jr. Based on that stat, this kid looks like he has a chance to save the franchise from the Yelich contract.
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Re: 2021 Brewers Minors/Prospects thread 

Post#164 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Aug 1, 2022 8:00 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:At what point do we consider Chourio an untouchable asset, if not already? He's doing **** at 18-years old that only guys like Bryce Harper were doing.


He's going to be as almost as untouchable as a prospect can get.

When Franco was 18 years old he was #23 on Fangraphs trade value chart and this is what was written about him:

Franco is the top prospect in the game and also the only one who made the top 50 this year. Vladimir Guerrero Jr. (18th) and Fernando Tatis Jr. (39th) both made last year’s list with no major league service time; Franco is a superior prospect to those two at the same juncture, but the top of this year’s list is deeper than it was last year. It’s easy to compare Franco and Guerrero since they both spent their age-17 season in the Appalachian League. Vlad’s standout performance there in 2016 (122 wRC+, 8 HR, 12% BB, 13% K in 62 games) was eclipsed in 2018 by Franco’s offense (159 wRC+, 11 HR, 10% BB, 7% K in 61 games), to say nothing of the fact that he did it as a shortstop with plus speed, while Vlad was portly and projected to eventually fit at first base. Franco hasn’t just raised his prospect status this year playing in Low- and High-A as an 18-year-old — he’s actually performed better by those same metrics while making big jumps in competition level. There have been prospects who perform at a very young age relative to their league, but few can do it without needing a break-in period.

While some commenters in the earlier articles are incredulous that a good major league club would trade almost anyone from their roster for a kid in A-Ball, many executives I spoke with told me they would. Respected scouts with no dog in this fight have called Franco a “perfect prospect.” ZiPS, a weighted average of possible outcomes, thinks Franco will be a 4 WAR player by his second full season, at age 21, while making the league minimum. Franco should (on merit) get to Double-A this year and has a case to be in the big leagues two weeks into 2020. I don’t think the Rays will do that because they’re deep in the middle infield, they wouldn’t mind if Franco experienced and overcame some failure before the big leagues, and they are service time sensitive given their market size. If Franco keeps doing this in Double-A at the end of this season, waiting until the Super Two cutoff next summer might the longest they could wait.
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Post#165 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Aug 2, 2022 3:10 pm

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Seeing this has me excited for the future at OF. I really hope they all go and produce, and we see them in the major soon.
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Post#167 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Aug 2, 2022 4:07 pm

I think I'm gonna have to order MiLB TV for August.
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Post#168 » by M-C-G » Tue Aug 2, 2022 4:44 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:I think I'm gonna have to order MiLB TV for August.


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Post#169 » by neiLz » Tue Aug 2, 2022 5:05 pm

If those OFs can move up quickly, it be great to move yelich to DH. Seeing a guy run around on roller skates ala manny ramirez is frustrating.
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Post#170 » by LUKE23 » Tue Aug 2, 2022 7:48 pm

neiLz wrote:If those OFs can move up quickly, it be great to move yelich to DH. Seeing a guy run around on roller skates ala manny ramirez is frustrating.


Honestly given the minor leagues lack of depth at the corners, and massive depth in the OF, could easily see him moving to 1B for the majority of his AB as early as next year.

I think one of the Nashville OF is moved, likely one of Frelick/Mitchell. I think they really want Ruiz to grab CF given his speed, but it will depend on how the bat comes along.

C - Feliciano
1B - Yelich
2B - Valerio
SS - Turang
3B - Adames
RF - Wiemer
CF - Ruiz
LF - Frelick

Still have Chourio (OF), Quero (C), Black (2B), Zamora (SS) among others in the pipeline.

Wish we had a little more 1B/3B depth, but C, OF and middle infield is looking nice for bat prospects right now.
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Post#171 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Aug 2, 2022 8:01 pm

Chourio is on the mega prospect path. Whoever is at CF in '23 likely won't be there in '24.
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Post#172 » by LUKE23 » Tue Aug 2, 2022 8:03 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Chourio is on the mega prospect path. Whoever is at CF in '23 likely won't be there in '24.


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Post#173 » by Iheartfootball » Tue Aug 2, 2022 8:17 pm

Too soon to call Chourio the Brewer’s Giannis? I’m pretty excited for the future. Front office has really done an amazing job with the resources they have.
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Re: 2021 Brewers Minors/Prospects thread 

Post#174 » by Brewster » Tue Aug 2, 2022 9:10 pm

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neiLz wrote:If those OFs can move up quickly, it be great to move yelich to DH. Seeing a guy run around on roller skates ala manny ramirez is frustrating.


Honestly given the minor leagues lack of depth at the corners, and massive depth in the OF, could easily see him moving to 1B for the majority of his AB as early as next year.

I think one of the Nashville OF is moved, likely one of Frelick/Mitchell. I think they really want Ruiz to grab CF given his speed, but it will depend on how the bat comes along.

C - Feliciano
1B - Yelich
2B - Valerio
SS - Turang
3B - Adames
RF - Wiemer
CF - Ruiz
LF - Frelick

Still have Chourio (OF), Quero (C), Black (2B), Zamora (SS) among others in the pipeline.

Wish we had a little more 1B/3B depth, but C, OF and middle infield is looking nice for bat prospects right now.


Wasn’t Yelich a 1B/OF when drafted out of high school? Would love to see him moved to 1B with all our up and coming OF.
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Post#176 » by Turk Nowitzki » Tue Aug 2, 2022 9:51 pm

Iheartfootball wrote:Too soon to call Chourio the Brewer’s Giannis?

lmao yes

But it's nice to have a guy in the truly elite prospect conversation to follow.
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Post#177 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Aug 2, 2022 9:54 pm

The Giannis of the sport just got traded today.
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Post#178 » by Iheartfootball » Tue Aug 2, 2022 9:55 pm

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Iheartfootball wrote:Too soon to call Chourio the Brewer’s Giannis?

lmao yes

But it's nice to have a guy in the truly elite prospect conversation to follow.


Let me clarify. 18 year old Giannis.
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Post#179 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Aug 2, 2022 9:57 pm

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ReasonablySober wrote:I think I'm gonna have to order MiLB TV for August.


If you do, I'll give you a +1 per update on the young kids.


I'm excited to watch these guys. Wisconsin is playing tonight too.
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Post#180 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Aug 3, 2022 2:18 pm

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Nashville is a fun team to watch now. In addition to the OF's you've got Keston, Turang, and Feliciano. Reetz is bonkers this season. We'll see what Ruiz can do.

I think Frelick may get a call-up by the end of the month. He looks like a lock to be a solid contributor.

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