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Who wins the 2021 NBA Finals

Suns in 4
27
6%
Suns in 5
58
13%
Suns in 6
131
30%
Suns in 7
42
10%
Bucks in 4
3
1%
Bucks in 5
10
2%
Bucks in 6
124
28%
Bucks in 7
43
10%
 
Total votes: 438

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Post#161 » by jredsaz » Mon Jul 5, 2021 2:40 am

DCasey91 wrote:
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How in the world did you reach that conclusion? (I guess leaving out a 2x MVP is the answer)
Basic basketball comprehension.

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Wait you believe Giannis is going to do anything in the finals? LOL.

He’s cooked same with Kawhi. It’s just foxing now.

Ayton might actually win the Finals MVP he’s set for a monster of a series. Legit I don’t think anyone is aware of the quality of defense the Bucks has faced so far lol.

I’m guessing 16.5/13.5/1.5/1 on godly FG%... basically par for the course this whole playoffs.

He is going to get fed like no one’s business.
I was saying Suns are the better team top to bottom. Top it could be the Bucks. Bench is definitely in Phoenix favor.

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Post#162 » by DCasey91 » Mon Jul 5, 2021 2:46 am

Yep Bucks bench is very light on imo. Whereas the Suns bench is among best this whole year for me.

Suns won’t be overawed by the occasion they are extremely well put together. It’s not like the Bucks aren’t flakey.
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Post#163 » by Antinomy » Mon Jul 5, 2021 2:52 am

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Antinomy wrote:Are we sure Ayton is better than Lopez?

Because if we’re being honest, if Giannis plays at anywhere near 100%, the Bucks should take this.

The Bucks have dealt with a dominant iso scorer in Durant & a great PnR guard in Young throughout their run. Devin Booker & CP3 aren’t going to scare them.

Depth won’t matter much but is the Suns bench really all that good? Portis is better than everybody on either bench.

Cam Johnson is a really good shooter but the Bucks have locked up those type of guys all playoffs. Robinson, Harris & Bogdanovic all struggled mightily against them.

I just think if both teams are fully healthy & the Bucks don’t play stupidly, it’s their series to lose.



...and lose they will. If Giannis isn't 100% then the Bucks go down in 5.

If he's healthy, closer series but still Phoenix is a more complete and deeper team. Suns win either way.


Cam Payne
Torrey Craig
Cam Johnson
Dario Saric
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Deeper? I don’t know about that one.

Cam Payne & Cam Johnson are the only real threats & the Bucks have shut out shooters like Johnson their entire run.
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Post#164 » by CS707 » Mon Jul 5, 2021 3:10 am

Giannis looked pretty spry on the sideline the other night. I think he’s a go for game one. This series is too close for me to call so I’m just going to sit back and enjoy it.
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Post#165 » by Slim Charless » Mon Jul 5, 2021 4:12 am

Antinomy wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:
Antinomy wrote:Are we sure Ayton is better than Lopez?

Because if we’re being honest, if Giannis plays at anywhere near 100%, the Bucks should take this.

The Bucks have dealt with a dominant iso scorer in Durant & a great PnR guard in Young throughout their run. Devin Booker & CP3 aren’t going to scare them.

Depth won’t matter much but is the Suns bench really all that good? Portis is better than everybody on either bench.

Cam Johnson is a really good shooter but the Bucks have locked up those type of guys all playoffs. Robinson, Harris & Bogdanovic all struggled mightily against them.

I just think if both teams are fully healthy & the Bucks don’t play stupidly, it’s their series to lose.



...and lose they will. If Giannis isn't 100% then the Bucks go down in 5.

If he's healthy, closer series but still Phoenix is a more complete and deeper team. Suns win either way.


Cam Payne
Torrey Craig
Cam Johnson
Dario Saric
Abdel Nadar

Deeper? I don’t know about that one.

Cam Payne & Cam Johnson are the only real threats & the Bucks have shut out shooters like Johnson their entire run.


Uh huh. Tell me more about Booby Ports-he of the career high 11 points and 5 rebs a game. Truly has us in fear.
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Post#166 » by Pachinko_ » Mon Jul 5, 2021 4:44 am

Just from rumours at the moment but it looks like Giannis is a go for G1, probably limited minutes.
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Post#167 » by Ill News » Mon Jul 5, 2021 5:00 am

I'll go Suns in 6.

Having a limited Giannis just sets the Bucks back, especially with how inconsistent Middleton has been. It's like he's reserving all of his buckets in quarter spurts, which just won't work for such a solid team as the Suns. As if Giannis being limited isn't enough, he'll also have to deal with DeAndre Ayton, who has been fantastic on defense all playoffs.

If Jrue can make life tough for Chris Paul, this series could go 7. Either way, I can't want for this series to start. I think it's gonna be extremely fun. I hope Giannis can join the party soon.
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Post#168 » by Pachinko_ » Mon Jul 5, 2021 5:44 am

Ill News wrote:As if Giannis being limited isn't enough, he'll also have to deal with DeAndre Ayton, who has been fantastic on defense all playoffs.

I mean in those 2 RS games that they had Ayton on him Giannis finished with 80 points combined. If Giannis has lost his first step then sure, otherwise I don't know why the suns would bother with that matchup, when they have pretty much the ideal personnel to build a wall with the Crowder and Bridges of this world plus Ayton just waiting in the middle.
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Post#169 » by Beethoven » Mon Jul 5, 2021 6:04 am

Destroy them mofos go Bucks
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Post#170 » by durden_tyler » Mon Jul 5, 2021 6:39 am

i have a futures bet on the Bucks (around 9x) but with the Giannis injury seriously flipping and hedging that bet...
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Post#171 » by carrrnuttt » Mon Jul 5, 2021 6:40 am

LMAO

A laugh at this dude is probably the one thing that Bucks and Suns fans can heartily agree on.

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Too bad he doesn't realize that neither team would be in the Finals had they kept him.

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Post#172 » by Phreak50 » Mon Jul 5, 2021 7:16 am

Bucks in 7 and I predict the best bench player from either team to surprisingly be Bryn Forbes.
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Post#173 » by AtheJ415 » Mon Jul 5, 2021 7:55 am

Phreak50 wrote:Bucks in 7 and I predict the best bench player from either team to surprisingly be Bryn Forbes.


Cameron Johnson is the best overall player. He should be starting. Cam Payne also is better than Forbes. As is Portis assuming Giannis is back.
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Post#174 » by Hsker4Life » Mon Jul 5, 2021 7:56 am

Pachinko_ wrote:
Ill News wrote:As if Giannis being limited isn't enough, he'll also have to deal with DeAndre Ayton, who has been fantastic on defense all playoffs.

I mean in those 2 RS games that they had Ayton on him Giannis finished with 80 points combined. If Giannis has lost his first step then sure, otherwise I don't know why the suns would bother with that matchup, when they have pretty much the ideal personnel to build a wall with the Crowder and Bridges of this world plus Ayton just waiting in the middle.


Ayton wasn’t the primary defender on Giannis. If you look at Giannis’ offensive stats when guarded by DA, they aren’t too impressive.
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Post#175 » by AtheJ415 » Mon Jul 5, 2021 8:03 am

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How good is the Bucks' D? I didn't study it all that well in the playoffs. Its clearly good but the Clippers were impressive with their "smarts". Playoff D is all about smarts, coaching, and energy to me.


Suns went through the Lakers, which had the #1 defensive rating in the entire NBA. Clippers were also a very good defensive team.

Its not like the Bucks are throwing the Suns anything they haven't seen lol.


well, clippers defense was only a tad better than average in regular season, then it got worse in the playoffs (and small sample being considered, actually improved without kawhi oddly enough) the. Clippers reputation in defense far outdoes their actual results

lakers were a elite defense, best in the league, but they didnt play that series at anythingh close to full health

bucks are the best playoffs defense this year adjusted to opponent so they seem to be a better defensive team that the injured lakers were (clippers not even belonging in the conversation, it was their offense that carried them)


That is largely based on the Nets who had a motionless Harden and 1.5 games of Kyrie where he absolutely torched them. The nets could not buy a bucket for much of that series and resorted to 1 on 1 play and forcing Durant the second Kyrie went down. They barely ran actual offense. Joe Harris went cold. They played Bruce Brown the orange cone. Their D is great but not better than LAL imo.
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Post#176 » by th87 » Mon Jul 5, 2021 8:36 am

carrrnuttt wrote:LMAO

A laugh at this dude is probably the one thing that Bucks and Suns fans can heartily agree on.

Read on Twitter


Too bad he doesn't realize that neither team would be in the Finals had they kept him.

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No ill will for him from this Bucks fan. He was a good teammate and gave his best. Just sad his anxiety issues clouded his play in the playoffs.
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Post#177 » by Pachinko_ » Mon Jul 5, 2021 9:45 am

Hsker4Life wrote:
Pachinko_ wrote:
Ill News wrote:As if Giannis being limited isn't enough, he'll also have to deal with DeAndre Ayton, who has been fantastic on defense all playoffs.

I mean in those 2 RS games that they had Ayton on him Giannis finished with 80 points combined. If Giannis has lost his first step then sure, otherwise I don't know why the suns would bother with that matchup, when they have pretty much the ideal personnel to build a wall with the Crowder and Bridges of this world plus Ayton just waiting in the middle.


Ayton wasn’t the primary defender on Giannis. If you look at Giannis’ offensive stats when guarded by DA, they aren’t too impressive.

better than facing a wall, trust me. It's never a good idea to guard this guy 1-1
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Post#178 » by buckbeer » Mon Jul 5, 2021 10:00 am

People are underestimating this Bucks team.
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Post#179 » by Bmaasse » Mon Jul 5, 2021 10:55 am

I'm actually surprised by these poll results.
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Post#180 » by Froob » Mon Jul 5, 2021 11:18 am

I’ll go Suns in six…we’ll have to see how healthy Giannis is.
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