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Post#161 » by jute2003 » Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:29 pm

I still feel like they gotta shake some **** up but an unprotected 1st for a malcontent looking for all the money is gross.
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Post#162 » by RogerMurdock » Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:33 pm

Beyond what one thinks the on-floor pros/cons would be, I think trading Khris and bringing in Butler would do some serious damage to the morale of the team. Ship out Giannis' best friend on the team, a Bucks legend, and a guy who everyone likes and respects for a locker room cancer? No thank you.
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Post#163 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:41 pm

I'm still gonna insist on giving Robbins' two-way spot to Badji. Dude is leading the G-league in blocks by a country mile (3.6 per game) and doesn't turn 23 until next October. Get him in the weight room, iron out the foul-machine tendencies a bit, and you've got yourself a rotation player with not-insane Larry Sanders upside. Robbins is just a guy.
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Post#164 » by fansinceforever » Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:57 pm

What's the plan if we don't trade for Butler?

Build chemistry with the current roster...? Come on, guys.
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Post#165 » by GrandAdmiralDan » Thu Jan 16, 2025 3:03 pm

jute2003 wrote:I still feel like they gotta shake some **** up but an unprotected 1st for a malcontent looking for all the money is gross.


I think you'll see top 5 protection on that 2031 1st
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Post#166 » by GrandAdmiralDan » Thu Jan 16, 2025 3:06 pm

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jute2003 wrote:I still feel like they gotta shake some **** up but an unprotected 1st for a malcontent looking for all the money is gross.


I think you'll see top 5 protection on that 2031 1st



It would have to turn into a 2nd round pick if it doesn't convey in 2031 with that protection
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Post#167 » by raferfenix » Thu Jan 16, 2025 3:34 pm

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GrandAdmiralDan wrote:I think you'll see top 5 protection on that 2031 1st


It would have to turn into a 2nd round pick if it doesn't convey in 2031 with that protection


How does this impact what future firsts/swaps we'd have available this offseason and years to come?

And while I have you here: am I correct (via spotrac) that the Wizards, Bulls, Grizzlies, Trail Blazers, Raptors, Rockets, Cavs and Jazz are all potential options for Connaughton via trade exceptions or open MLE's?

Your scenario mentioned the Pistons who are the only cap space team wondering if we think there are other options.
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Post#168 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Jan 16, 2025 3:36 pm

Pat back to looking like the solid vet rotation guy these past few games has certainly been beneficial, as is the price tag on recent salary dumps. Okogie essentially getting dumped for a 2nd rounder (two additional 2nd's to turn him into Richards) and the THJ salary dump this offseason (basically just a 2nd to dump $16 mil when you factor in that Dallas paid two additional 2nd's for Grimes). Moving Pat shouldn't really be an issue.
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Post#169 » by JayMKE » Thu Jan 16, 2025 3:37 pm

Bucks really have no options to improve themselves around the edges with tweaks, like Nick Richards would have taken the 31 1st. Pls Jimmy pls! Gotta take chance on depressed asset.

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Post#170 » by raferfenix » Thu Jan 16, 2025 3:41 pm

Pat showing he can still play if only periodically (and especially in the playoffs) certainly helps.

Michael Scotto adds to the smoke:

With the Milwaukee Bucks roughly $6.5 million over the second apron, rival executives who spoke with HoopsHype are monitoring Pat Connaughton as a potential trade candidate.

If Milwaukee is able to shed Connaughton’s $9.42 million salary, the Bucks could avoid being a second apron luxury tax team and open up more flexibility to improve the team, which would include access to the mid-level exception, being able to trade multiple players in the same deal, etc.

While Connaughton is a beloved figure within Milwaukee’s organization amidst his seventh season, his role has diminished this season to 15.7 minutes per game and he’s been out of the team’s rotation for nearly half the season. Connaughton also has a $9.42 million player option for the 2025-26 season.

The Detroit Pistons have been the most logical destination for any potential salary dump across the league, given their $14 million in salary cap space.


https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-intel-warriors-bucks-suns-hornets-more/
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Post#171 » by Bernman » Thu Jan 16, 2025 3:47 pm

Pat's not a bad player, even when his outside shot is sub-par. He's a straight up a decent one when it is going, which is not an age thing. When he says the best is yet to come in his career, I believe it's still in there. Whether he can access it is the question.

We'll see what transpires. But if he remains thru the deadline, it shouldn't shock anyone if he's 1 of 5 playable Bucks during the postseason again. It's why I wouldn't deal him in a pure salary dump. Would need to be part of acquiring more playable guy(s).
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Post#172 » by wallus » Thu Jan 16, 2025 3:54 pm

If no major move happens, we need to at least move Bobby for someone younger and that isn't slow
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Post#173 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:05 pm

So much smoke out there right now with Jimmy supposedly expected to report back to the team today.. His camp now clarifying that he hasn't ruled out Milwaukee, yet remaining adamant he doesn't wanna go to Memphis. Middleton being relegated to the bench to lower his minutes/injury probability. Phoenix exhausting all their remaining 2nd round picks to grab Richards indicating they might be giving up on trading Beal (as well as all reports indicating Brad has no interest waiving his NTC). Pat (maybe) being showcased a little bit? My gut says if it's gonna happen, it's happening in the next couple days.
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Post#174 » by Bernman » Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:06 pm

RiotPunch wrote:
MikeIsGood wrote:If we give up a first - literally the next pick of ours that we actually own, six years from now - for a 35 year old we better **** win a championship.

Jon's legacy will be similar to Ted Stepien's once the NBA enacts the Horst Act, restricting pick swapping.


Yea, I've said the same thing before that they were going to have to make a Horst Rule ala the Stepien. He's circumventing it. Hasn't been the only GM, but I think he was the innovator, & would be the most egregious offender.
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Post#175 » by -Jragon- » Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:14 pm

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MickeyDavis wrote:Teams that have won a championship with Butler being a key piece - 0

Teams where Butler has caused drama and headaches - 4


I don’t think this is fair but I don’t really care about trading for a 35 year old Jimmy Butler so I’ll allow it.


He had to carry those teams. He wouldn't have to do that here. Plus, he has high expectations for his teammates, but so do Giannis and Dame so the match is right. If we had a bunch of youngsters I wouldn't bring Butler here.

If it's a rental situation then don't include the pick at all and what do we lose? A lot of salary for guys coming off the bench which is still a go for me
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Post#176 » by ShootingtheJ » Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:20 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Pat back to looking like the solid vet rotation guy these past few games has certainly been beneficial, as is the price tag on recent salary dumps. Okogie essentially getting dumped for a 2nd rounder (two additional 2nd's to turn him into Richards) and the THJ salary dump this offseason (basically just a 2nd to dump $16 mil when you factor in that Dallas paid two additional 2nd's for Grimes). Moving Pat shouldn't really be an issue.



Okogie wasnt dumped, he having a really strong year. They could get more 2nds for him if they put him on the market
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Post#177 » by ShootingtheJ » Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:21 pm

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blazza18 wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:Teams that have won a championship with Butler being a key piece - 0

Teams where Butler has caused drama and headaches - 4


I don’t think this is fair but I don’t really care about trading for a 35 year old Jimmy Butler so I’ll allow it.


He had to carry those teams. He wouldn't have to do that here. Plus, he has high expectations for his teammates, but so do Giannis and Dame so the match is right. If we had a bunch of youngsters I wouldn't bring Butler here.

If it's a rental situation then don't include the pick at all and what do we lose? A lot of salary for guys coming off the bench which is still a go for me


Sure, if you have no idea how the salary cap works.
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Post#178 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:24 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Pat back to looking like the solid vet rotation guy these past few games has certainly been beneficial, as is the price tag on recent salary dumps. Okogie essentially getting dumped for a 2nd rounder (two additional 2nd's to turn him into Richards) and the THJ salary dump this offseason (basically just a 2nd to dump $16 mil when you factor in that Dallas paid two additional 2nd's for Grimes). Moving Pat shouldn't really be an issue.



Okogie wasnt dumped, he having a really strong year. They could get more 2nds for him if they put him on the market


Dude was being relegated to DNP's and garbage time for a team currently fighting to get into the play-in, so the evidence kinda says otherwise.
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Post#179 » by wallus » Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:27 pm

I'm fine with a roster shakeup but keep the 31 first. As it stands, this team isn't winning a championship and I'm not sure there is a realistic move out there for us to be serious contenders.
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Post#180 » by soxperry » Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:30 pm

Trade deadline has been a dud past two years for the most part w the big moves coming on the lead up. Moves could come sooner than we think

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