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The disrespect directed towards Joe needs to stop.

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Re: The disrespect directed towards Joe needs to stop. 

Post#161 » by Fierce1 » Wed May 14, 2025 3:42 pm

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Boston508 wrote:I don't want to see this raccoon-looking clown on the sidelines next season. He wasn't even supposed to be the head coach like that. He was an interim when Ime couldn't keep it in his pants, and that's as far as he should've gotten. Brad should have gone coach hunting in the off-season, but didn't. Now this is what you have. A guy who had no business being a head coach, being a head coach.

You'll be disappointed because Joe will be back next season.

Joe is going to be the next Doc Rivers. A trash coach who clings to one championship he won only because of having a stacked roster. All the fans know he's trash, but the organization is blinded by the 1 chip he got. Next season is already a wash anyway. Let's see how awful Joe really is with no JT safety net.

Exactly!

Joe will help land the Cs a top 4 pick.
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Post#162 » by cloverleaf » Wed May 14, 2025 4:05 pm

The real problem is that the front-office nerds are behind all of Joe's decisions--and they're not going to want to admit fault.
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Post#163 » by FlyBono » Wed May 14, 2025 10:32 pm

New Ownership will dictate if JM stays or goes not Stevens
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Post#164 » by return2glory » Wed May 14, 2025 10:43 pm

I keep going back and forth on Joe. He has to be better as a coach but there is something about coach Joe that I like. He is a good dude. That's the hard part.

If there is a chance we win game 5, I hope we win it for Joe.
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Post#165 » by Riverwalk2021 » Thu May 15, 2025 1:58 am

Mazzulla should be fired for continuing to play Porzingis in the Knicks series despite clearly being the worst player on the floor. That's honestly enough of a reason to show him the door. Basketball malpractice honestly. It was clear he was cooked in the Magic series.
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Post#166 » by Fierce1 » Thu May 15, 2025 2:16 am

Celtics attempted 49 3s in Game 5 against the Knicks.

The difference?

Celtics were not making stupid mistakes, only 8 total turnovers.

This system works.

But it's the lack of discipline on offense that kills the Celtics when they're not shooting the ball well.

It's awareness of time and score.

There are times you will be open, but that doesn't mean you have to shoot it.

Guess only time will tell because I don't think Joe's going anywhere.
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Post#167 » by playa-hater » Thu May 15, 2025 5:08 am

return2glory wrote:I keep going back and forth on Joe. He has to be better as a coach but there is something about coach Joe that I like. He is a good dude. That's the hard part.

If there is a chance we win game 5, I hope we win it for Joe.


I just want the best coach possible and could care less If "he is a good dude"
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Post#168 » by djFan71 » Thu May 15, 2025 5:26 am

I think Joe is great at organizing a team, practices, defense and he still has the trust of the players. And, the offense DOES generate great looks. He's great at getting very detailed, consistent principles enacted on the court by his guys.

BUT, the offense isn't versatile and gets predicable - and worse they kinda stop running it down the stretch. I think his in game adjustments aren't as good as his longer term ones - game to game, season to season, etc. He likes to be prepared and not make rash decisions, which is good normally, but not necessarily when something needs to change quickly in game.

No coach is perfect. I think you stick with him for the good aspects - which are quite good - and work to address the bad ones. Through both his own growth (it's only his 3rd year, 2nd real one) and adding a new voice on the offensive end. Losing Smith and JVG as a consultant wasn't nothing.

Clamoring for Cassell is just backup quarterback syndrome, imo. Carlisle, Kerr, Spo, sure, but they're not options. I'm not sure who else is out there that really moves the needle. If there is, who are we talking about? Most of the fired coaches were fired for a reason - lost the locker room, bad offense/defense, or all of the above. If we don't have names and we are just saying "go find some guy who will be better" we're not really doing much.
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Post#169 » by Smart2Nesmith43 » Thu May 15, 2025 7:31 am

djFan71 wrote:I think Joe is great at organizing a team, practices, defense and he still has the trust of the players. And, the offense DOES generate great looks. He's great at getting very detailed, consistent principles enacted on the court by his guys.

BUT, the offense isn't versatile and gets predicable - and worse they kinda stop running it down the stretch. I think his in game adjustments aren't as good as his longer term ones - game to game, season to season, etc. He likes to be prepared and not make rash decisions, which is good normally, but not necessarily when something needs to change quickly in game.

No coach is perfect. I think you stick with him for the good aspects - which are quite good - and work to address the bad ones. Through both his own growth (it's only his 3rd year, 2nd real one) and adding a new voice on the offensive end. Losing Smith and JVG as a consultant wasn't nothing.

Clamoring for Cassell is just backup quarterback syndrome, imo. Carlisle, Kerr, Spo, sure, but they're not options. I'm not sure who else is out there that really moves the needle. If there is, who are we talking about? Most of the fired coaches were fired for a reason - lost the locker room, bad offense/defense, or all of the above. If we don't have names and we are just saying "go find some guy who will be better" we're not really doing much.

Well I heard this Pop guy isn't coaching an NBA team anymore.
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Post#170 » by Garbanzo » Thu May 15, 2025 10:22 am

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return2glory wrote:I keep going back and forth on Joe. He has to be better as a coach but there is something about coach Joe that I like. He is a good dude. That's the hard part.

If there is a chance we win game 5, I hope we win it for Joe.


I just want the best coach possible and could care less If "he is a good dude"


Goes hand in hand together. Especially with the celtics group of players and the modern day.
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Post#171 » by Fierce1 » Thu May 15, 2025 10:44 am

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return2glory wrote:I keep going back and forth on Joe. He has to be better as a coach but there is something about coach Joe that I like. He is a good dude. That's the hard part.

If there is a chance we win game 5, I hope we win it for Joe.


I just want the best coach possible and could care less If "he is a good dude"


Goes hand in hand together. Especially with the celtics group of players and the modern day.

True.

Ime was a bad boy.

Celtics let him go even when they just made the finals.
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Post#172 » by ConstableGeneva » Thu May 15, 2025 11:00 am

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djFan71 wrote:I think Joe is great at organizing a team, practices, defense and he still has the trust of the players. And, the offense DOES generate great looks. He's great at getting very detailed, consistent principles enacted on the court by his guys.

BUT, the offense isn't versatile and gets predicable - and worse they kinda stop running it down the stretch. I think his in game adjustments aren't as good as his longer term ones - game to game, season to season, etc. He likes to be prepared and not make rash decisions, which is good normally, but not necessarily when something needs to change quickly in game.

No coach is perfect. I think you stick with him for the good aspects - which are quite good - and work to address the bad ones. Through both his own growth (it's only his 3rd year, 2nd real one) and adding a new voice on the offensive end. Losing Smith and JVG as a consultant wasn't nothing.

Clamoring for Cassell is just backup quarterback syndrome, imo. Carlisle, Kerr, Spo, sure, but they're not options. I'm not sure who else is out there that really moves the needle. If there is, who are we talking about? Most of the fired coaches were fired for a reason - lost the locker room, bad offense/defense, or all of the above. If we don't have names and we are just saying "go find some guy who will be better" we're not really doing much.

Well I heard this Pop guy isn't coaching an NBA team anymore.

So many here have "good ideas". Any one of us can coach the Celtics.
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Post#173 » by cloverleaf » Thu May 15, 2025 1:41 pm

Joe subtly making the case for the new owners to keep the band together?

“The guys in that room have been together for a long time,” said Celtic coach-under-seige, Joe Mazzulla. “They were able to do what was necessary to get back to New York.”
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Post#174 » by return2glory » Thu May 15, 2025 11:57 pm

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return2glory wrote:I keep going back and forth on Joe. He has to be better as a coach but there is something about coach Joe that I like. He is a good dude. That's the hard part.

If there is a chance we win game 5, I hope we win it for Joe.


I just want the best coach possible and could care less If "he is a good dude"


Chances are you won't like the next coach either, who ever that may be down the road.
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Post#175 » by return2glory » Sat May 17, 2025 1:59 am

Brad needs to hire a real coach at this point. Joe had his shot. Keep him as an assistant.

This will go down as the worst coaching jobs in a playoff series in Celtics history.
2 blown 20 plus point leads in the second half at home, a blown 15 point lead in another game in the series and now a possible 40 point plus loss.
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Post#176 » by FlyBono » Sat May 17, 2025 2:02 am

Bye bye Joey

Bye bye
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Post#177 » by Bosjack » Sat May 17, 2025 2:14 am

FlyBono wrote:Bye bye Joey

Bye bye



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Post#178 » by Larry_Russell » Sat May 17, 2025 2:30 am

Joe was the right coach at the right time...but that time has passed
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Post#179 » by Hal14 » Sat May 17, 2025 2:40 am

return2glory wrote:Brad needs to hire a real coach at this point. Joe had his shot.

Yes, had his shot. And he won a title - in just his 2nd season as the HC..his 1st season where he actually had his own assistants and had the offseason tro prepare for being the HC.

return2glory wrote:Keep him as an assistant.

It wouldn't be "keeping him as an assistant". That would imply he's an assistant right now.

That's not the case. He's the HC right now - not assistant.

So what you're actually saying is demote him from HC to assistant which is something that teams never do. If a guys is a HC and you want a different HC, you fire him..you don't demote him to asst. That's not something that ever happens.
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Post#180 » by The Corey's » Sat May 17, 2025 3:06 am

Imagine watching this teams offensive play and not holding the coach accountable for it.

If the 3s aren't fallen, they have nothing. They didn't even know how to bypass the half court double team trap.

This dude is a fraud.

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