PG Knicks/Heat (Everybody hates Yabu?)

[HEZI]

The problem right now, maybe for the season, is the offense doesn't generate open looks and shots in the flow enough that the shooters are comfortable and make those 3s. I "THINK" that might be the problem with the shooting.

Now, I could blame that on unfamiliarity with the offense, but I'm watching Miami and there's like 7 new guys on the team, yet that offense looked WAY better.

Maybe Brown just isn't that great of a coach. He's ok. He's in the NBA, so I'm sure he's awesome. Compared to human beings. Maybe compared to other NBA coaches he's just kind of there.

He’s complaining about free throw disparity instead of acknowledging that Miami attacked the basket and bullied us on the interior while we just settled for outside shots like he wanted.

Where were the touches for KAT? Why is OG just shooting 12 three pointers instead of attacking the basket and playing to his strength?

15-54 from 3 as a team? This is not a recipe for any long term success

When the shoot a bunch of threes strategy works it looks great. When it fails, as it did last night, it looks really really bad. “They were good open looks but we just didn’t hit them” ok, but do we actually have the personnel that’s going to hit them more often than not because I have doubts. Maybe they should have kept garrison Matthews if that’s how they want to operate.

It’s especially bad when you combine it with bad defense. Fortunately for us other teams have been missing a lot of open shots but we really haven’t looked good on either end of the floor and Miami took advantage of our poor defense last night and just punished us

[TKKnicks1]

I know I'm not in the minority here when I say I absolutely love KAT shooting 8 threes a game. Thibs had the best shooting big man playing like Luc Longley. I'm glad Brown recognizes what the strengths are and is giving him the green light. Those threes will start going in and when they do we won't be having this conversation.

[TheGreenArrow]

Giannis/Hukporti
OG/Diawara
Bridges/Hart (unfortunately)
Deuce/Matthews (waive Shamet)
Brunson/Kolek

In case of emergency: Jamison\McCullars

DNP-CD: Fatboosele, Chuckson

Get in done Leon. I'm ready.

KAT and all the 1sts Knicks are allowed to trade for Giannis.

KAT isn't the answer.
He can't create enough to be a 2nd option next to Brunson.
He isn't a good defender.
He isn't elite at anything except maybe defensive rebounding.
Is he good at shooting? Sure. Is he a good passer for a C? Yes.
Sorry, that's not good enough for someone taking up 50-60 million in cap space.

KAT is like a big goofy Carmelo Anthony. Really good players. Not the players you want to tie up all that money in.
Let other teams do it. Teams that don't want to win it all.

Giannis would bring in that secondary creator that is better than KAT.
Is it ideal, in that he's not a SF/SF wing? It's not.
But Giannis is elite in playmaking as a 4/5, especially as a 5, but let's assume he's still resistant to playing the 5.
And he can actually play defense.

You completely nailed it Buzzy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Totally agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HEZI]

We’ve turned KAT into Nikola Vucevic and we turned OG into Dillon Brooks

[rajajackal]

we're not talking enough about jordan clarkson's 2-11 FG, 0-4 from 3 performance

[KnixinSix]

Heat under Spoelstra play some fantastic defense.

Knicks are still learning the offensive system and are tentative at times whether they should drive or shoot or pass. That is death against a very well coached defensive system.

I think Brown has given us plenty of positives and we are still rounding into form in a very different system both offensively and defensively. So this game did not surprise me. However , one small-ish nitpick at the moment is I think Brown may have swung the pendulum too far in the opposite direction of Thibs in being a touch too liberal in his rotations. Brunson was super hot yesterday and deserved more playing time (a few more minutes in 3rd especially) to ride practically the only hot hand on the team. He was a +6 (team high) and sat for a long stretch in the third. When a guy is hot like that you adjust your rotations and ride that guy more.

But I still largely give a pass here bc Brown is giving guys time to develop chemistry while also learning what line-up combos work best. If he is still doing this 25 games in i.e not riding the hot hand a bit more or playing guys too much that have shown they are not that good after 25 games in, then that will be a bigger issue.

[KnixinSix]

we're not talking enough about jordan clarkson's 2-11 FG, 0-4 from 3 performance

I am not really a Clarkson fan period. He is like a career 41-42 FG shooter and generally takes a lot of bad shots. Sure he can make a highlight play or two but he just isnt very good. Also a pretty bad 3 ball shooter. When McBride returns I expect McBride to get more playing time then him (like last game). Also I would prefer Clarkson shoot less and focus on defense. When he is hot then go ahead and shoot more however when he isn't you as the coach have to restrain him or give him less minutes.

[TheGreenArrow]

Heat under Spoelstra play some fantastic defense.

Knicks are still learning the offensive system and are tentative at times whether they should drive or shoot or pass. That is death against a very well coached defensive system.

I think Brown has given us plenty of positives and we are still rounding into form in a very different system both offensively and defensively. So this game did not surprise me. However , one small-ish nitpick at the moment is I think Brown may have swung the pendulum too far in the opposite direction of Thibs in being a touch too liberal in his rotations. Brunson was super hot yesterday and deserved more playing time (a few more minutes in 3rd especially) to ride practically the only hot hand on the team. He was a +6 (team high) and sat for a long stretch in the third. When a guy is hot like that you adjust your rotations and ride that guy more.

But I still largely give a pass here bc Brown is giving guys time to develop chemistry while also learning what line-up combos work best. If he is still doing this 25 games in i.e not riding the hot hand a bit more or playing guys too much that have shown they are not that good after 25 games in, then that will be a bigger issue.

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We’ll see if teams catch on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheGreenArrow]

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I agree with benjy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[j4remi]

I wouldn't overthink a Sunday game in Miami. Those might as well be second nights of back-to-backs. Everyone but Brunson and Bridges looked a step slow. Way too many three-pointers off the first swing pass instead of drive-and-kick action. Then missing 40 long jumpers means a ton of transition opportunities which is only worse when everyone's looking sluggish.

That's not to mention how much they missed Deuce. Jordan Clarkson got too many chances on the ball for his crazy shot selection, and the second unit defense fell apart without someone pressuring the point of attack.

[Fat Kat]

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[KnixinSix]

Heat under Spoelstra play some fantastic defense.

Knicks are still learning the offensive system and are tentative at times whether they should drive or shoot or pass. That is death against a very well coached defensive system.

I think Brown has given us plenty of positives and we are still rounding into form in a very different system both offensively and defensively. So this game did not surprise me. However , one small-ish nitpick at the moment is I think Brown may have swung the pendulum too far in the opposite direction of Thibs in being a touch too liberal in his rotations. Brunson was super hot yesterday and deserved more playing time (a few more minutes in 3rd especially) to ride practically the only hot hand on the team. He was a +6 (team high) and sat for a long stretch in the third. When a guy is hot like that you adjust your rotations and ride that guy more.

But I still largely give a pass here bc Brown is giving guys time to develop chemistry while also learning what line-up combos work best. If he is still doing this 25 games in i.e not riding the hot hand a bit more or playing guys too much that have shown they are not that good after 25 games in, then that will be a bigger issue.

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Almost the entire bench was a -10 or more except Hart. Clarkson will not replace what McBride gives us. And Yabu certainly will not replace what Mitch gives us. Yabu needs to lose that NY 'dining experience' weight he gained. And he also needs to get that 3 ball going otherwise he is close to useless right now.

[kNicksGmen]

Yabu had the ball wide open at the top of the key on a few different occasions and just looked to pass. it was like when ihart/mitch would be running a dribble hand off. face the basket and shoot dude I thought that was one of the few things you did well? he's playing with no confidence. defense wasn't even respecting his shot.

I meant to comment this earlier but I thought brunson generated a lot of wide open - top of the key looks for both yabs and Kat. They just didn't make them. it's a good sign to me considering last year brunson often ignored Kat on those PnR actions and looked to take on a double team to score himself. he started doing it more in the 2nd half as he was clearly in take over mode as nobody else could cash in on his passes (other than bridges corner 3s)

[3toheadmelo]

Hart has looked atrocious lately too

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[3toheadmelo]

I was at the game and ima just say this KAT is 10x more frustrating in person than he is on tv. Also when he got his 4th foul, Mike brown was going IN on him and KAT was arguing with him.

It’s extremely disappointing seeing our offense look so bad when Brunson is on the bench. Mike brown is supposed to make our offense better but we look like dog sht. Heat fans was even talking crazy about Brown when I was in the bathroom. This is gonna be a long year.

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[KnixinSix]

Yabu had the ball wide open at the top of the key on a few different occasions and just looked to pass. it was like when ihart/mitch would be running a dribble hand off. face the basket and shoot dude I thought that was one of the few things you did well? he's playing with no confidence. defense wasn't even respecting his shot.

I meant to comment this earlier but I thought brunson generated a lot of wide open - top of the key looks for both yabs and Kat. They just didn't make them. it's a good sign to me considering last year brunson often ignored Kat on those PnR actions and looked to take on a double team to score himself. he started doing it more in the 2nd half as he was clearly in take over mode as nobody else could cash in on his passes (other than bridges corner 3s)

Lack of good 3 ball shooters on the floor for stretches hurt us too. Yabu was expected to be a good 3 ball guy but right now with that weight gain he isn't. McBride being hurt didn't help either. Kolek is not fully confident from there yet. Lastly our stars aren't fully tuned in from 3 yet either. It'll get better though.

In a new system when you are thinking too much instead of just playing , the 3 ball along with others things will be inconsistent until you acclimate.

[Jalen Bluntson]

We are not at full strength. We are learning an entirely new system on both sides of the ball. We have some new guys to build chemistry with. A new HC. There's a lot of moving pieces here that need organizing. We almost made the come back win but, couldn't pull it off.

As much as I hate losing to Miami I expect some tough losses until we find out how and where everyone fits.

On to the next one.

[TKKnicks1]

I was at the game and ima just say this KAT is 10x more frustrating in person than he is on tv. Also when he got his 4th foul, Mike brown was going IN on him and KAT was arguing with him.

It’s extremely disappointing seeing our offense look so bad when Brunson is on the bench. Mike brown is supposed to make our offense better but we look like dog sht. Heat fans was even talking crazy about Brown when I was in the bathroom. This is gonna be a long year.

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I thought this was called "coaching."

[3toheadmelo]

clyde mentioned the argument for a second on the broadcast

Clyde knows that KAT isn't going to work under Mike Brown

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I thought this was called "coaching."

You had to be in there person. KAT was not trying to hear anything Mike Brown was saying and kept arguing with him.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Apparently the season is over, I was hoping we'd go 82-0 but I guess it wasn't meant to be. The sky is falling, we were 1-2 through 3 games last year, how ever can we recover from this loss?