ImNotMcDiSwear wrote: I actually thought Shamet couldn't realistically be trade due to the extension, but I guess I overestimated the power of the poison pill, as the trade checker lets me trade him for equal salary returning.
I'd deal him with Dario and Smith for Gordon, no question. If they want a 1st - which of course they would - I'd try to extract something extra. I like Armoni Brooks and KJ Martin. Augustin sucks, but not more than Elf. House isn't great, but he's a clear upgrade over Ish and Hutch.
Because of CP3's history with Gordon, I think something like this has a chance. Who else would be willing to give up a first for Gordon? He carried the Rockets to their recent 7 game winning streak, and when he was taken out of the lineup, they promptly dropped back to the floor. So I could see other suitors, but if Gordon's lobbying for a particular destination and we're willing to surrender draft compensation - this isn't unrealistic.
The real problem with Gordon is durability - he has none. Played 30 games each of the last two seasons. Which is why I'd want some additional bench guys like the names I mention, and no way am I including Nader, who has at least shown flashes of being able to make threes (certainly more than our other backup wings, Shamet excluded). If healthy, Gordon's a major upgrade over Shamet and gives us that additional playmaker we've discussed.
Eric Gordon is a very good player but we don't need him. He would hate to just play 15 mpg, he wants to play and sign a nice contract next summer. And he usually isn't healthy, so trading for him would be a big risk. I thought he was signed through 2023-2024? With his 23-24 ( $20 million salary being unguaranteed). https://www.spotrac.com/nba/houston-rockets/eric-gordon-6116/
2023 non-guaranteed, fully guaranteed for All-Star team or 500 min (reg)/750 (reg/playoffs) + HOU Championship (@Wojnarowski
) (@BobbyMarks)
as for him hating playing a backup role, I think the difference in being able to play for an actual contender and compete for a championship as well as playing with Paul and under Monty again would satiate him fine in an obviously much better situation/ environment.
I think that our backcourt is PERFECT. Fit, talent and chemistry are off the charts.
CP3/Payne Book/Shamet
And Elfrid Payton as a 5th backcourt player with Mikal playing some minutes as a SG if needed.
Not a fan of the Payton signing personally due to his inability to space the floor. And occasional tunnel vision. Aside from that he's a stable ball handler at least and decent playmaker. Intrigued by the proposition of Bridges at the two. But only if he gets more aggressive consistently and seeks a greater offensive role. No more complacency please.
Payne and Shamet are playing their roles pretty well. They get criticized too much IMO. They're pretty good sometimes, But have been fairly inconsistent here and there when it counts. Now they may pull out of their struggles, or they may not. But they're likely only getting criticized due to expectations being so high. I like both of them. But wouldn't shunt an upgrade at their positions if available? Since our window is small.
We have been playing without Book for the last 6 games and they have had a bigger role so sometimes they are over matched, but they are doing a decent job and helping to win games.
I do agree here! They have done a decent job albeit having struggled at times which is to be expected. But what we're populating here is a more immediate potential upgrade for an "all in" win the title this season or bust mentality. Looking towards more significant immediate impacts and statistical consistency.
Yeah, Eric Gordon is under contract for $19.5M next season. My bad.
I can't imagine James Jones trading for a backup player with that money guaranteed for next season. We need to sign Ayton and extend Cam Johnson.
Saberestar wrote:Yeah, Eric Gordon is under contract for $19.5M next season. My bad.
I can't imagine James Jones trading for a backup player with that money guaranteed for next season. We need to sign Ayton and extend Cam Johnson.
It's pretty close to what Saric and Shamet are owed next year. Same contract lengths. Of course, you'd have to fill Dario's roster spot, but given that he's got no place in this rotation, I figure we'll have to do that anyways.
My primary concern is Gordon's durability. Were it not for that, this trade would be an obvious go for me. It might be hard to pull the trigger given the injury factor and Dario and Landry being Monty's adopted children.
Ghost of Kleine wrote: I love this proposal. Martin or perhaps Tate for me personally as I think Tate has a bit of Dort/ THT to him?
Tate>>>THT. No way the Rox surrender him. I thought of KJ and Armoni as they're useful but expendable. And I think they'd part with House for free.
Saberestar wrote:Yeah, Eric Gordon is under contract for $19.5M next season. My bad.
I can't imagine James Jones trading for a backup player with that money guaranteed for next season. We need to sign Ayton and extend Cam Johnson.
It's pretty close to what Saric and Shamet are owed next year. Same contract lengths. Of course, you'd have to fill Dario's roster spot, but given that he's got no place in this rotation, I figure we'll have to do that anyways.
My primary concern is Gordon's durability. Were it not for that, this trade would be an obvious go for me. It might be hard to pull the trigger given the injury factor and Dario and Landry being Monty's adopted children.
Ghost of Kleine wrote: I love this proposal. Martin or perhaps Tate for me personally as I think Tate has a bit of Dort/ THT to him?
Tate>>>THT. No way the Rox surrender him. I thought of KJ and Armoni as they're useful but expendable. And I think they'd part with House for free.
I'd still push for it to get maximum value for taking Gordon's 20 off their hands, As well as surrendering a first in the deal. That'd be my starting ( high ) point. But of course I'd be fine settling on KJ Martin and Armoni Brooks. I wonder if they'd do one of Garuba or Christopher if we added Smith??
Thaddeus Young says he wants to play for a contender amid usage drop with Spurs.
“I don’t mind playing through rebuilds and stuff like that, but the one thing about it is I’m not getting any younger. I’m getting older and at some point, I want to start contending for championships. I haven’t been in any situation where I’ve been able to contend for a championship. I want that feeling. I want that aspect of being able to go out there and being able to compete for a championship every single night. That’s the part that I really want to get to.”
I thought it was really impressive to have 3 guys shooting 40%+ from 3 and it is pretty impressive since I thought most teams would have maybe 1 or 2 guys at most shooting 40%+. But I just had a look at Jazz and Warriors and boy....makes sense why they are the two best 3PT shooting teams in the league
Shamet is paid to exclusively be a 3pt shooter and still hitting under 40% is disappointing. He should be leading the team and hitting like 44%+ considering that’s his only job imo, he’s awful at basically every other part of the game.
I expect he will continue to improve on that front. I think he's still finding his way on this team and understanding what's expected of him. When I watch him play, I see a lot of indecision, a lot of doing too much and a lot of rushed shots. It's like he thinks the teams expects him to be a everything and more but he really just needs to settle down and simplify his game and be like a homeless man's Klay and just run around, catch, set feet and shoot. We don't need him to be like a poor man's Booker with the ball in his hand.
lilfishi22 wrote:More than ever....we are in the championship or bust endgame
Shamet is paid to exclusively be a 3pt shooter and still hitting under 40% is disappointing. He should be leading the team and hitting like 44%+ considering that’s his only job imo, he’s awful at basically every other part of the game.
I expect he will continue to improve on that front. I think he's still finding his way on this team and understanding what's expected of him. When I watch him play, I see a lot of indecision, a lot of doing too much and a lot of rushed shots. It's like he thinks the teams expects him to be a everything and more but he really just needs to settle down and simplify his game and be like a homeless man's Klay and just run around, catch, set feet and shoot. We don't need him to be like a poor man's Booker with the ball in his hand.
Agree. Looks like he's been shooting a lot of mid rangers lately, which is odd. Particularly off the dribble - not his game i'd say.
Revived wrote:Shamet is paid to exclusively be a 3pt shooter and still hitting under 40% is disappointing. He should be leading the team and hitting like 44%+ considering that’s his only job imo, he’s awful at basically every other part of the game.
I expect he will continue to improve on that front. I think he's still finding his way on this team and understanding what's expected of him. When I watch him play, I see a lot of indecision, a lot of doing too much and a lot of rushed shots. It's like he thinks the teams expects him to be a everything and more but he really just needs to settle down and simplify his game and be like a homeless man's Klay and just run around, catch, set feet and shoot. We don't need him to be like a poor man's Booker with the ball in his hand.
Agree. Looks like he's been shooting a lot of mid rangers lately, which is odd. Particularly off the dribble - not his game i'd say.
The off the dribble and finishing in the paint have been particularly awful. Those opportunities will open up naturally when he's shooting comfortably over 40% from range but right now he's hurting his own shooting by thinking too far ahead and trying to do too much. But I understand the dilemma in his head; off the bench, he was suppose to be that secondary ball handler/playmaker next to Cam. But he's not there right now and he just needs to scale back
lilfishi22 wrote:More than ever....we are in the championship or bust endgame
I thought it was really impressive to have 3 guys shooting 40%+ from 3 and it is pretty impressive since I thought most teams would have maybe 1 or 2 guys at most shooting 40%+. But I just had a look at Jazz and Warriors and boy....makes sense why they are the two best 3PT shooting teams in the league
When you look at these other top teams in comparison to ours, This is why it becomes critically important to either find a way to upgrade our 3 or shooting, OR find a way to upgrade our Perimeter ( 3 point defense). Now the best underrated 3 point shooters that we could realistically have a chance at trading for maybe on the cheap would be: ( Jalen Smith trade)??
Tony Snell,*Joe Ingles* ( would love to get him in a Saric facilitator role), Kenrich Williams, Bryn Forbes, Sterling Brown, Cody Martin, Mike Muscala, Ben McLemore.
And the very best 3 point/ perimeter defenders that we could realistically attain via trade are:
Chris Boucher, Robert Covington, Josh Richardson, Torrey Craig, Justin Holiday, Dorian Finney Smith, Justice Winslow. *Super cheap * Andre Roberson, Kris Dunn, Demarre Carroll, Iman Shumpert, Shaq Harrison.
Saberestar wrote:Yeah, Eric Gordon is under contract for $19.5M next season. My bad.
I can't imagine James Jones trading for a backup player with that money guaranteed for next season. We need to sign Ayton and extend Cam Johnson.
It's pretty close to what Saric and Shamet are owed next year. Same contract lengths. Of course, you'd have to fill Dario's roster spot, but given that he's got no place in this rotation, I figure we'll have to do that anyways.
My primary concern is Gordon's durability. Were it not for that, this trade would be an obvious go for me. It might be hard to pull the trigger given the injury factor and Dario and Landry being Monty's adopted children.
Ghost of Kleine wrote: I love this proposal. Martin or perhaps Tate for me personally as I think Tate has a bit of Dort/ THT to him?
Tate>>>THT. No way the Rox surrender him. I thought of KJ and Armoni as they're useful but expendable. And I think they'd part with House for free.
I'd still push for it to get maximum value for taking Gordon's 20 off their hands, As well as surrendering a first in the deal. That'd be my starting ( high ) point. But of course I'd be fine settling on KJ Martin and Armoni Brooks. I wonder if they'd do one of Garuba or Christopher if we added Smith??
Does your browser go straight to the trade machine when you type in ‘Lets Pretend’ ?
My gawd, takes more than math and a wish list to get a deal done.
I don’t see us adding anyone, and surely not unless on an expiring. No way we trade Shamet as he, along with CPayne are hand picked Monty guys. Plus you don’t send warm fuzzies when trading off newly signed FAs. That’s counter culture behavior. Smith is just salary filler at this point and is destined for a ‘passport needed’ league. That leaves us with a dinged up Dario and picks as our only true assets. We aren’t moving off of our top 9.
If healthy this team is just fine. I haven’t seen really any match ups that were serious problems, in fact, I think we can play just about any style, and present more problems to others. Athletic bigs and quick guards do give us fits, but that’s almost universal. Certainly we aren’t in ‘have to trade to contend’ mode. We are there already, with a target on our backs. GState looks to be the high water mark, but our top 9 can toe to toe anyone. They just have to play well….
Frankly, I think we keep Saric and perhaps. (of course for some) have the trade discussion about him next yr. A healthy Saric is worth both more to us and others, especially as an expiring. Plus he’s just a good dude. Trading him now looks more like a salary dump move. theres a strange silence about his return, I guess in a month or so they will have to address it. Would be a nice bonus if the next media mention was his recovery is progressing and possible return this yr. I don’t remember the time lines when he went down. Dare I say the same for Shank??? Does all this trade talk hinge upon his return?? I mean truly, there aren’t any spare minutes to dole out. Health is the boogie man for us. You arent going to replace one of our key cogs with the crap on cardboard we have to offer.
I will nod ya GoK, Boucher is one of interest and could happen with minor parts and a pick. the Raps would be booting a fellow Canukker. But he’s long and bouncy, with a three ball. And they’d have to be bagging the season
Thaddeus Young says he wants to play for a contender amid usage drop with Spurs.
“I don’t mind playing through rebuilds and stuff like that, but the one thing about it is I’m not getting any younger. I’m getting older and at some point, I want to start contending for championships. I haven’t been in any situation where I’ve been able to contend for a championship. I want that feeling. I want that aspect of being able to go out there and being able to compete for a championship every single night. That’s the part that I really want to get to.”
Spurs will hold on to him till they exhaust all options to glean a little value. Smith and a second might be as good as a buyout money wise for SA. It would be an upgrade for us, but only if you compare player for player.
Who else has the need for Young? Even with us, he shouldn’t get many minutes barring injury. I just don’t see him being an upgrade over CamJo and may be only select match ups over Crowder. He might help a little during the season, but come playoff time, he’s a piner
I’d pass on giving up a pick and play CamJo more. I regard Johnson as our best PF even though he’s a tweener. The dude knows how to play and isn’t afraid of sticking his nose in there amongst the bigger bangers. Plus, he’ll dunk on anyone and actually looks to do it.
ImNotMcDiSwear wrote: It's pretty close to what Saric and Shamet are owed next year. Same contract lengths. Of course, you'd have to fill Dario's roster spot, but given that he's got no place in this rotation, I figure we'll have to do that anyways.
My primary concern is Gordon's durability. Were it not for that, this trade would be an obvious go for me. It might be hard to pull the trigger given the injury factor and Dario and Landry being Monty's adopted children.
Tate>>>THT. No way the Rox surrender him. I thought of KJ and Armoni as they're useful but expendable. And I think they'd part with House for free.
I'd still push for it to get maximum value for taking Gordon's 20 off their hands, As well as surrendering a first in the deal. That'd be my starting ( high ) point. But of course I'd be fine settling on KJ Martin and Armoni Brooks. I wonder if they'd do one of Garuba or Christopher if we added Smith??
Does your browser go straight to the trade machine when you type in ‘Lets Pretend’ ?
My gawd, takes more than math and a wish list to get a deal done.
I don’t see us adding anyone, and surely not unless on an expiring. No way we trade Shamet as he, along with CPayne are hand picked Monty guys. Plus you don’t send warm fuzzies when trading off newly signed FAs. That’s counter culture behavior. Smith is just salary filler at this point and is destined for a ‘passport needed’ league. That leaves us with a dinged up Dario and picks as our only true assets. We aren’t moving off of our top 9.
If healthy this team is just fine. I haven’t seen really any match ups that were serious problems, in fact, I think we can play just about any style, and present more problems to others. Athletic bigs and quick guards do give us fits, but that’s almost universal. Certainly we aren’t in ‘have to trade to contend’ mode. We are there already, with a target on our backs. GState looks to be the high water mark, but our top 9 can toe to toe anyone. They just have to play well….
Frankly, I think we keep Saric and perhaps. (of course for some) have the trade discussion about him next yr. A healthy Saric is worth both more to us and others, especially as an expiring. Plus he’s just a good dude. Trading him now looks more like a salary dump move. theres a strange silence about his return, I guess in a month or so they will have to address it. Would be a nice bonus if the next media mention was his recovery is progressing and possible return this yr. I don’t remember the time lines when he went down. Dare I say the same for Shank??? Does all this trade talk hinge upon his return?? I mean truly, there aren’t any spare minutes to dole out. Health is the boogie man for us. You arent going to replace one of our key cogs with the crap on cardboard we have to offer.
I will nod ya GoK, Boucher is one of interest and could happen with minor parts and a pick. the Raps would be booting a fellow Canukker. But he’s long and bouncy, with a three ball. And they’d have to be bagging the season
There… that’s 2 Joe cups worth
Agreed, and Boucher started last night or the night before, but they probably work in Precious Achiuwa more. If they go tank route later they may buy him out if he wants bought out or will give up money but guys may not want to give up money.
And Jalen Smith holds little value to a team that would give us another expiring, someone they may more likely to re-sign and who they have bird rights too.
Plus Jalen is an UFA and they could sign him anyway....and if a team really wants him can sign him for more than the team that would trade for him.
When asked how Fascism starts, Bertrand Russell once said: "First, they fascinate the fools. Then, they muzzle the intelligent."
Frank Lee wrote:Spurs will hold on to him till they exhaust all options to glean a little value. Smith and a second might be as good as a buyout money wise for SA. It would be an upgrade for us, but only if you compare player for player.
Who else has the need for Young? Even with us, he shouldn’t get many minutes barring injury. I just don’t see him being an upgrade over CamJo and may be only select match ups over Crowder. He might help a little during the season, but come playoff time, he’s a piner
I’d pass on giving up a pick and play CamJo more. I regard Johnson as our best PF even though he’s a tweener. The dude knows how to play and isn’t afraid of sticking his nose in there amongst the bigger bangers. Plus, he’ll dunk on anyone and actually looks to do it.
Play the kid
Lakers for injury insurance and can play LeBron at SF and start him...only need to play one subpar guy in starting lineup.
Denver might start him with Porter out...try Gordon at SF.
It is unlikely we start him but possible.
Chicago may want him back...could really use him and now are near the top of the east...and he is comfortable there.
Brooklyn without a doubt....huge upgrade from Aldridge, Blake, etc.
Bucks with Lopez out..give them size.
Possibly Philly.
Miami? Would they bring Tucker off bench?
Anyway, I think most of these teams would give him more minutes than us. Brooklyn for sure, probably LA, Denver, Chicago and the Bucks.
Also I forgot the Clips. With Kawhi and Serge out they can start him too.
When asked how Fascism starts, Bertrand Russell once said: "First, they fascinate the fools. Then, they muzzle the intelligent."
ImNotMcDiSwear wrote: It's pretty close to what Saric and Shamet are owed next year. Same contract lengths. Of course, you'd have to fill Dario's roster spot, but given that he's got no place in this rotation, I figure we'll have to do that anyways.
My primary concern is Gordon's durability. Were it not for that, this trade would be an obvious go for me. It might be hard to pull the trigger given the injury factor and Dario and Landry being Monty's adopted children.
Tate>>>THT. No way the Rox surrender him. I thought of KJ and Armoni as they're useful but expendable. And I think they'd part with House for free.
I'd still push for it to get maximum value for taking Gordon's 20 off their hands, As well as surrendering a first in the deal. That'd be my starting ( high ) point. But of course I'd be fine settling on KJ Martin and Armoni Brooks. I wonder if they'd do one of Garuba or Christopher if we added Smith??
Does your browser go straight to the trade machine when you type in ‘Lets Pretend’ ?
My gawd, takes more than math and a wish list to get a deal done.
I don’t see us adding anyone, and surely not unless on an expiring. No way we trade Shamet as he, along with CPayne are hand picked Monty guys. Plus you don’t send warm fuzzies when trading off newly signed FAs. That’s counter culture behavior. Smith is just salary filler at this point and is destined for a ‘passport needed’ league. That leaves us with a dinged up Dario and picks as our only true assets. We aren’t moving off of our top 9.
If healthy this team is just fine. I haven’t seen really any match ups that were serious problems, in fact, I think we can play just about any style, and present more problems to others. Athletic bigs and quick guards do give us fits, but that’s almost universal. Certainly we aren’t in ‘have to trade to contend’ mode. We are there already, with a target on our backs. GState looks to be the high water mark, but our top 9 can toe to toe anyone. They just have to play well….
Frankly, I think we keep Saric and perhaps. (of course for some) have the trade discussion about him next yr. A healthy Saric is worth both more to us and others, especially as an expiring. Plus he’s just a good dude. Trading him now looks more like a salary dump move. theres a strange silence about his return, I guess in a month or so they will have to address it. Would be a nice bonus if the next media mention was his recovery is progressing and possible return this yr. I don’t remember the time lines when he went down. Dare I say the same for Shank??? Does all this trade talk hinge upon his return?? I mean truly, there aren’t any spare minutes to dole out. Health is the boogie man for us. You arent going to replace one of our key cogs with the crap on cardboard we have to offer.
I will nod ya GoK, Boucher is one of interest and could happen with minor parts and a pick. the Raps would be booting a fellow Canukker. But he’s long and bouncy, with a three ball. And they’d have to be bagging the season
There… that’s 2 Joe cups worth
Solid points and fair perspective as always Frank!
My trade proposal for Gordon was actually initially Saric ( who likely can't even play this season/ equaling 9 million in dead salary/ no on court impact) and Shamet whose been struggling recently after having to assume a larger role. Now Gordon regardless of his salary is obviously a huge upgrade at that position, even from Shamet currently. I also get the premise of the potential salary implications and the Sarver factor being a point of contention due to the LT. But in this trade (**which can't be done till July 2022 anyways due to Shamets' aggregate trade restriction) along with Saric would be near equal salary to Gordon's $19 million next season. And his 2023- 2024 salary is fully unguaranteed.
So we wouldn't really be adding additional salary towards the tax anyways. I also get that both Shamet and Payne ( as well as Saric) are more or less Monty's comfort selections. But Gordon also has played for/ has history Williams AND Paul too. So we can still continue this cushioning comfortability trend of players he's familiar with in this scenario ( if it were at all considered). Not that any of these cushioning moves guarantee/ increase our likelihood of getting closer to an actual championship. We can continue to prioritize the " warm and fuzzies " for our coaches interests at the expense of a championship in our very small window with Paul. Or we can look to get more immediate upgrades to genuinely go all in before our window closes.
I wonder how many legitimate contenders and actual nba champions carry 9-10 million in sideline cheerleaders just to satiate their coaches level of comfort? Or how many avoid significant potential upgrades to their roster in interest of culture optics? I will absolutely agree that IF ACTUALLY FULLY HEALTHY we should be fine. But when again is Saric even expected to return? Or Kaminsky for that matter? Without that depth ( they offer no on court impact towards wins from the bench in street clothes) we will be hard pressed to play our key starters heavy, heavy minutes. This will only increase the likelihood of more injuries and exhaustion for our top 9. I mean obviosly tangible depth carries the most value to teams, as it allows for load management for their stars, starters and key rotation players to be fresh and free of significant fatigue in high stakes situations (playoffs/ finals)??
Shamet and Payne have definitely had instances of being pretty good, but overall still more struggles than meadurable successes and consistent contributions. How many games have we closed out teams early ( allowing for key players to get rest) due to our bench?? Our bench since the beginning of the season was a huge selling point! But unfortunately they've been wildly inconsistent for our needs. And our starters have had to carry heavier loads early into the season as a result! None of this bodes well for our sustainability as the season drags on. Especially not towards interest of fielding a healthy and strong roster entering the playoffs either. Seeking these legitimate upgrades serve to rectify those concerns. Upgrading our bench ( level of quality over quantity) will allow us to have legitimate insurance against these potential destructive outcomes. So yes, alot of these trades are actually predicated largely on the lack of LEGITIMATE DEPTH to our roster as a result of injuries.
Anyways, This will definitely be an interesting season, which many varying and at times controversial perspectives. Awesome hearing from you. Agree on Boucher. What are your thoughts on Young vs Thompson vs Craig in potential buyout? Really I'm just looking between these names 3 names + Boucher of course to address further depth issues in case of repetitive injury whilst Kaminsky and Saric are out likely for the season anyways. But you may be right that we find a way to weather the storm, and these issues may seem somewhat inconsequential on the surface. But as the season roles along and becomes significantly more cutthroat as we get closer to the playoffs, Other competing teams will obviously be looking to exploit any repeated weaknesses we have.
These proposals offered are only a means to address those issues IF ( as expected) Saric and Kaminsky do in fact not return early from their injuries. I personally just don't want our exceptional season and likely best opportunity at a title to be derailed by constant/ repetitive weaknesses that we chose to not address, with the expectation that they'll just work themselves out!! Especially with us already having targets on our backs. Why make things more difficult for ourselves? Sorry about the long response! But you know me........lol. Always love hearing from you and you sharing your insight man.
Frank Lee wrote:Spurs will hold on to him till they exhaust all options to glean a little value. Smith and a second might be as good as a buyout money wise for SA. It would be an upgrade for us, but only if you compare player for player.
Who else has the need for Young? Even with us, he shouldn’t get many minutes barring injury. I just don’t see him being an upgrade over CamJo and may be only select match ups over Crowder. He might help a little during the season, but come playoff time, he’s a piner
I’d pass on giving up a pick and play CamJo more. I regard Johnson as our best PF even though he’s a tweener. The dude knows how to play and isn’t afraid of sticking his nose in there amongst the bigger bangers. Plus, he’ll dunk on anyone and actually looks to do it.
Play the kid
Lakers for injury insurance and can play LeBron at SF and start him...only need to play one subpar guy in starting lineup.
Denver might start him with Porter out...try Gordon at SF.
It is unlikely we start him but possible.
Chicago may want him back...could really use him and now are near the top of the east...and he is comfortable there.
Brooklyn without a doubt....huge upgrade from Aldridge, Blake, etc.
Bucks with Lopez out..give them size.
Possibly Philly.
Miami? Would they bring Tucker off bench?
Anyway, I think most of these teams would give him more minutes than us. Brooklyn for sure, probably LA, Denver, Chicago and the Bucks.
Also I forgot the Clips. With Kawhi and Serge out they can start him too.
How many of these teams though have players to trade.
But yes, Young will have a large buyout market.
Possibly Smith and a 2nd might be the way to improve the back end of the roster.
Just noticed the Lakers are signing Isiah Thomas to a 10 day deal The NEts are signing Galloway to a 10 day deal
Wonder if the Suns have thought about signing a big for 10 days - granted with Ayton and McGree, probably do not need too though Kaminsky and Nader out - might be nice
I would target Thad Young as a buy-out candidate no need to waste any assets even though i like the fit. On the other hand Kyle Anderson might be a better option and might worth trading for?
Frank Lee wrote:Spurs will hold on to him till they exhaust all options to glean a little value. Smith and a second might be as good as a buyout money wise for SA. It would be an upgrade for us, but only if you compare player for player.
Who else has the need for Young? Even with us, he shouldn’t get many minutes barring injury. I just don’t see him being an upgrade over CamJo and may be only select match ups over Crowder. He might help a little during the season, but come playoff time, he’s a piner
I’d pass on giving up a pick and play CamJo more. I regard Johnson as our best PF even though he’s a tweener. The dude knows how to play and isn’t afraid of sticking his nose in there amongst the bigger bangers. Plus, he’ll dunk on anyone and actually looks to do it.
Play the kid
Lakers for injury insurance and can play LeBron at SF and start him...only need to play one subpar guy in starting lineup.
Denver might start him with Porter out...try Gordon at SF.
It is unlikely we start him but possible.
Chicago may want him back...could really use him and now are near the top of the east...and he is comfortable there.
Brooklyn without a doubt....huge upgrade from Aldridge, Blake, etc.
Bucks with Lopez out..give them size.
Possibly Philly.
Miami? Would they bring Tucker off bench?
Anyway, I think most of these teams would give him more minutes than us. Brooklyn for sure, probably LA, Denver, Chicago and the Bucks.
Also I forgot the Clips. With Kawhi and Serge out they can start him too.
How many of these teams though have players to trade.
But yes, Young will have a large buyout market.
Possibly Smith and a 2nd might be the way to improve the back end of the roster.
Just noticed the Lakers are signing Isiah Thomas to a 10 day deal The NEts are signing Galloway to a 10 day deal
Wonder if the Suns have thought about signing a big for 10 days - granted with Ayton and McGree, probably do not need too though Kaminsky and Nader out - might be nice
Sure, if we can trade something for him. I imagine teams have more attractive offers than Jalen and a 2nd (like what, the 58th pick?).
Jalen is an UFA so hard to keep anyway and others can outbid Spurs. If they like him they can sign him in the offseason anyway. They have plenty of cap space.
But I was mainly talking buyout.
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