July 1st Free Agency Begins - Catchall thread

NYKnicksTAPE · Post #16081 » by **NYKnicksTAPE** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:04 am

SoCalKnickFan wrote:
NYKnicksTAPE wrote:Harden and the Rockets will be in the finals next season...book it!!

Mc hale and a barely improved team vs. pop and a much improved Spurs team, let alone the Warriors. I'd pass on "booking" that.

Lol at barely improved. They didn't have DMO or Beverly in the playoffs, and now they've added Lawson and Sam Dekker. Book it

Post #16082 » by **moocow007** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:08 am

NYKnicksTAPE wrote:
SoCalKnickFan wrote:
NYKnicksTAPE wrote:Harden and the Rockets will be in the finals next season...book it!!

Mc hale and a barely improved team vs. pop and a much improved Spurs team, let alone the Warriors. I'd pass on "booking" that.

Lol at barely improved. They didn't have DMO or Beverly in the playoffs, and now they've added Lawson and Sam Dekker. Book it

Yeah as much as folks hate Harden and Howard...and Morey...the Rockets team is going to be extremely difficult to beat after this trade. They gave up no one projected to be in their rotation for next season for, at the time, the best remaining available player in the NBA.

N Y K · Post #16083 » by **N Y K** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:22 am

moocow007 wrote:
NYKnicksTAPE wrote:
SoCalKnickFan wrote:Mc hale and a barely improved team vs. pop and a much improved Spurs team, let alone the Warriors. I'd pass on "booking" that.

Lol at barely improved. They didn't have DMO or Beverly in the playoffs, and now they've added Lawson and Sam Dekker. Book it

Yeah as much as folks hate Harden and Howard...and Morey...the Rockets team is going to be extremely difficult to beat after this trade. They gave up no one projected to be in their rotation for next season for, at the time, the best remaining available player in the NBA.

LOL didn't Lawson send shots at Harden on Twitter a bit ago?

N Y K · Post #16084 » by **N Y K** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:32 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/HerringWSJ/status/622956336721055744[/tweet]

nykfan42 · Post #16085 » by **nykfan42** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:43 am

CharlesOakleeey wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/HerringWSJ/status/622956336721055744[/tweet]

I love this hahaha. I hate Harden

nykfan42 · Post #16086 » by **nykfan42** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:46 am

mpharris36 wrote:i wouldn't mind bringing back pablo for a 1 year vet min deal if he wanted too.

That can be done right? That was the first thing that came to mind when I saw Woj's tweet. I'd take Priggy Smalls back in a heartbeat.

DaGawd · Post #16087 » by **DaGawd** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:04 am

Pablo is more useful to a contending team. We don't need him

Post #16088 » by **moocow007** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:06 am

nykfan42 wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:i wouldn't mind bringing back pablo for a 1 year vet min deal if he wanted too.

That can be done right? That was the first thing that came to mind when I saw Woj's tweet. I'd take Priggy Smalls back in a heartbeat.

If the Nuggets waive him, yep, he can come back. The issue would have been if the Rockets waived him. And even then there's a tie limit to prevent that (don't recall how long).

Post #16089 » by **moocow007** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:07 am

DaGawd wrote:Pablo is more useful to a contending team. We don't need him

Yeah, don't see the need. Papanikolau would be more interesting since the Knicks need some SF depth and Papa does seem to play like a NY type player (tough, with his emotions on his sleeve). It also would be coming full circle in a different way since the Knicks drafted Papanikolau originally.

Johnny Hoops · Post #16090 » by **Johnny Hoops** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 3:57 am

Either Pappy or Nick Johnson intrigue me - I take Pappy over Early and N-Johnson over Ledo (I think).

nykfan42 · Post #16091 » by **nykfan42** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 4:08 am

moocow007 wrote:
DaGawd wrote:Pablo is more useful to a contending team. We don't need him

Yeah, don't see the need. Papanikolau would be more interesting since the Knicks need some SF depth and Papa does seem to play like a NY type player (tough, with his emotions on his sleeve). It also would be coming full circle in a different way since the Knicks drafted Papanikolau originally.

Is he getting waived too?

melo mvp 15 · Post #16092 » by **melo mvp 15** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:43 am

Still hoping we sign Copeland, although the last update on him had three teams that weren't NY. Not to mention we're fine with non-traditional PFs (Porzingis, DWill, Lance, Melo, possibly N'Dour/Wear)- really the only one of those that'll bruise down low is Melo (we saw KP willing to do it in summer league, but he's probably not ready to consistently do that in the NBA yet).... so signing another stretch 4 isn't a priority.

I just think he could be a huge scorer for us off the bench. Honestly I'm not the guy to complain about the DWill signing because I like him, but I would've rather signed Copeland for the minimum or room exception and used $5 mil on someone like KJ McDaniels.

melo mvp 15 · Post #16093 » by **melo mvp 15** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:46 am

moocow007 wrote:
DaGawd wrote:Pablo is more useful to a contending team. We don't need him

Yeah, don't see the need. Papanikolau would be more interesting since the Knicks need some SF depth and Papa does seem to play like a NY type player (tough, with his emotions on his sleeve). It also would be coming full circle in a different way since the Knicks drafted Papanikolau originally.

I'd love Papaknick back but I definitely think he's a piece Denver will keep.

DowNY · Post #16094 » by **DowNY** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:09 am

People say they hate Harden but I bet you'd trade Melo for Harden yesterday if the opportunity presented itself.

DowNY · Post #16095 » by **DowNY** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 9:10 am

melo mvp 15 wrote:Still hoping we sign Copeland, although the last update on him had three teams that weren't NY. Not to mention we're fine with non-traditional PFs (Porzingis, DWill, Lance, Melo, possibly N'Dour/Wear)- really the only one of those that'll bruise down low is Melo (we saw KP willing to do it in summer league, but he's probably not ready to consistently do that in the NBA yet).... so signing another stretch 4 isn't a priority.

I just think he could be a huge scorer for us off the bench. Honestly I'm not the guy to complain about the DWill signing because I like him, but I would've rather signed Copeland for the minimum or room exception and used $5 mil on someone like KJ McDaniels.

Copeland is an overrated bum that played decent on a stacked playoff team. There's a reason he isn't signed.

DaGawd · Post #16096 » by **DaGawd** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 11:03 am

DowNY wrote:People say they hate Harden but I bet you'd trade Melo for Harden yesterday if the opportunity presented itself.

I'd prolly do that too. He might be better than Melo at this point

levendis · Post #16097 » by **levendis** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:24 pm

I don't really see the fit with Lawson on Houston. Both him and Harden need the ball.

bballoctober · Post #16098 » by **bballoctober** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:36 pm

levendis wrote:I don't really see the fit with Lawson on Houston. Both him and Harden need the ball.

I guess they wouldn't mind Harden committing less than 13 turnovers by sharing the ball a little bit more.

Post #16099 » by **mpharris36** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:38 pm

bballoctober wrote:
levendis wrote:I don't really see the fit with Lawson on Houston. Both him and Harden need the ball.

I guess they wouldn't mind Harden committing less than 13 turnovers by sharing the ball a little bit more.

they are much better players than Rondo and Ellis. But it is still a clumsy fit. Both aren't catch and shoot guys. So while it will take a load off of Harden. Harden is pretty useless off the ball. He does almost all of his damage with the ball in his hands. And Lawson doesn't play off of the ball either.

Post #16100 » by **NoLayupRule** » Mon Jul 20, 2015 12:57 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
bballoctober wrote:
levendis wrote:I don't really see the fit with Lawson on Houston. Both him and Harden need the ball.

I guess they wouldn't mind Harden committing less than 13 turnovers by sharing the ball a little bit more.

they are much better players than Rondo and Ellis. But it is still a clumsy fit. Both aren't catch and shoot guys. So while it will take a load off of Harden. Harden is pretty useless off the ball. He does almost all of his damage with the ball in his hands. And Lawson doesn't play off of the ball either.

the rockets are secretly run by Isiah Thomas

they just go after whatever names they can and hope star power propels them

they won't get past the spurs, Clips or GS

Harden has the ability to completely take over a game but team-wise they are lacking what these massively deep teams have