Miami Heat Speculation Thread - 2020 and beyond...

twix2500 · Post #1621 » by **twix2500** » Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:50 pm

Is Kyle Lowry a possibility?

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heater4life · Post #1622 » by **heater4life** » Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:58 pm

I don’t understand the machinations in a S&T for Gallo and how they would effect 2021 cap space.

Just know Gallo taking Olynks role as a floor spacing / playmaking 4 makes this team more dangerous. Their defense is a wash

twix2500 · Post #1623 » by **twix2500** » Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:19 pm

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Zasterror · Post #1624 » by **Zasterror** » Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:10 pm

The shooting will be even more remarkable with Gallo on this team. Our offense will be ridiculous.

goodboy · Post #1625 » by **goodboy** » Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:16 pm

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BenoUdrihFTL · Post #1626 » by **BenoUdrihFTL** » Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:30 pm

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If we get Gallo to pair with DRob does that then make Herro expendable? I mean we can only have so many 3pt shooting defensive liabilities. And if so, what would we be looking to move Herro for? I figure we'd be targeting a high profile guard while also addressing defense (Jrue? Dipo + Turner?). Then again, if we land Giannis in 2021 then defense is a non-issue and Herro's shooting becomes even more valuable to us

Riley is in a tricky spot here because while you don't want to put all your eggs in the Giannis basket, at the same time you also don't want to make moves today that would compromise our shot at Giannis tomorrow. Not only regarding cap flexibility, but also in terms of roster construction/fit

Bishop45 · Post #1627 » by **Bishop45** » Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:47 pm

Need a longer list, but scrub PG list:

DJ Augustine
Rondo

heater4life · Post #1628 » by **heater4life** » Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:51 pm

BenoUdrihFTL wrote:
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If we get Gallo to pair with DRob does that then make Herro expendable? I mean we can only have so many 3pt shooting defensive liabilities. And if so, what would we be looking to move Herro for? I figure we'd be targeting a high profile guard while also addressing defense (Jrue? Dipo + Turner?). Then again, if we land Giannis in 2021 then defense is a non-issue and Herro's shooting becomes even more valuable to us

Riley is in a tricky spot here because while you don't want to put all your eggs in the Giannis basket, at the same time you also don't want to make moves today that would compromise our shot at Giannis tomorrow. Not only regarding cap flexibility, but also in terms of roster construction/fit

As much as some hate it, the only “available” All Stars I move Herro for and sacrifice Giannis are Booker or Beal.

Giannis is the greater talent, but those two guys allow the Heat to remain potent on the outside, can create their own shot consistently, and have better timelines with their youth to align with Miami’s contention.

twix2500 · Post #1629 » by **twix2500** » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:01 pm

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If we get Gallo to pair with DRob does that then make Herro expendable? I mean we can only have so many 3pt shooting defensive liabilities. And if so, what would we be looking to move Herro for? I figure we'd be targeting a high profile guard while also addressing defense (Jrue? Dipo + Turner?). Then again, if we land Giannis in 2021 then defense is a non-issue and Herro's shooting becomes even more valuable to us

Riley is in a tricky spot here because while you don't want to put all your eggs in the Giannis basket, at the same time you also don't want to make moves today that would compromise our shot at Giannis tomorrow. Not only regarding cap flexibility, but also in terms of roster construction/fit

Gallinari will be taking Olynyk and/or Leonard minutes. One or both of those guy are not returning so we not gaining more bad defenders. Defensive Gallinari do not make stupid fouls like KO and Leonard. So there is a plus on that side of the ball.

Heat have been trying to upgrade the point guard position for the past two years. I am sure they are actively still trying to do so. If they get an agreement with Gallinari I expect Olynyk and others to be on the move to find a quality starting point guard. They have experimented with unusual lineups to get by, but you see how much that has wore down Butler.

Last season reminded me of when the Heat used Wade as the point guard. He thrived there but they need to reach his max he needed to play SG. I think its the same for Butler. Heat want Butler to be a SG not a point.

oreon · Post #1630 » by **oreon** » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:24 pm

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There goes Dennis damn. DAMMIT DAMMIT!

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That's it? DG is washed so they only giving up the 28th pick for Schroder. That's a steal for the Lakers. He wouldn't have made sense for the Heat but I'm surprised some other teams that need a PG didn't make a move for him. Bucks for one, also Knicks and Suns. Bucks on the clock now, if they strike out on CP3 and Jrue they have to consider moving Giannis. I don't see anyone else apart from Russ they realistically get and Jrue might even be out of their price range trade wise.

RexBoyWonder · Post #1631 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:38 pm

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I like all 3, and all 3 really fit. Just hope they're healthy and still got something in the Tank.

Gallo is the biggest upgrade we could get to the starting 5.

Wes brings defense and shooting on the wing - which we need,

Milsap, hopefully he's not done. He used to be all around good.

If we do get Milsap + Gallo - I think Crowder is gone.

RexBoyWonder · Post #1632 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:40 pm

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PG: ______? - Dragic - Nunn
SG: Butler - Herro - Matthews
SF: Robinson - Iguodala
PF: Gallinari - Milsap - Okpala
Ce: Adebayo - Olynyk

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Herro should start and you pray the defense holds up. Add defensive cheap players.

RexBoyWonder · Post #1633 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:43 pm

twix2500 wrote:Is Kyle Lowry a possibility?

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Don't' see why Raptors give him up for what we can (or should) offer. He's be great here though.

twix2500 · Post #1634 » by **twix2500** » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:46 pm

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I like all 3, and all 3 really fit. Just hope they're healthy and still got something in the Tank.

Gallo is the biggest upgrade we could get to the starting 5.

Wes brings defense and shooting on the wing - which we need,

Milsap, hopefully he's not done. He used to be all around good.

If we do get Milsap + Gallo - I think Crowder is gone.

I think Milsap is ripe to be a good bench player. It would be a huge addition. That would give Bam 2 bigs who can carry the scoring load.

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RexBoyWonder · Post #1635 » by **RexBoyWonder** » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:53 pm

twix2500 wrote:
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I like all 3, and all 3 really fit. Just hope they're healthy and still got something in the Tank.

Gallo is the biggest upgrade we could get to the starting 5.

Wes brings defense and shooting on the wing - which we need,

Milsap, hopefully he's not done. He used to be all around good.

If we do get Milsap + Gallo - I think Crowder is gone.
I think Milsap is ripe to be a good bench player. It would be a huge addition. That would give Bam 2 bigs who can carry the scoring load.

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Hopefully Pat makes him lose some weight and he looks 2 years younger. He's a heady tough player, he fits.

Really wondering If we get Gallo in a S&T, what are we using as sweetner? I guess Kelly or Iggy are traded..but what else?

Nunn looks ripped, I don't want to give up on him. And we need to keep our pick this year. Can we salary dump Kelly and sign Gallo with cap space, let crowder walk and make a deal with Goran? I need answers twix

twix2500 · Post #1636 » by **twix2500** » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:58 pm

RexBoyWonder wrote:
twix2500 wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:
I like all 3, and all 3 really fit. Just hope they're healthy and still got something in the Tank.

Gallo is the biggest upgrade we could get to the starting 5.

Wes brings defense and shooting on the wing - which we need,

Milsap, hopefully he's not done. He used to be all around good.

If we do get Milsap + Gallo - I think Crowder is gone.
I think Milsap is ripe to be a good bench player. It would be a huge addition. That would give Bam 2 bigs who can carry the scoring load.

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Hopefully Pat makes him lose some weight and he looks 2 years younger. He's a heady tough player, he fits.

Really wondering If we get Gallo in a S&T, what are we using as sweetner? I guess Kelly or Iggy are traded..but what else?

Nunn looks ripped, I don't want to give up on him. And we need to keep our pick this year. Can we salary dump Kelly and sign Gallo with cap space, let crowder walk and make a deal with Goran? I need answers twix

I think Answers are right around the corner. I think tomorrow the last day for the heat to host a private workout. Then the draft is Wednesday, we should be hearing something between now and then.

eddieheatfan · Post #1637 » by **eddieheatfan** » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:01 pm

i'm starting to think that riley will pursue player development and it makes sense since it has paid off with the likes of duncan and herro

i dont think greek freak is coming,he wil either stay in wisconsin or go to LA ....

twix2500 · Post #1638 » by **twix2500** » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:09 pm

eddieheatfan wrote:i'm starting to think that riley will pursue player development and it makes sense since it has paid off with the likes of duncan and herro

i dont think greek freak is coming,he wil either stay in wisconsin or go to LA ....

If the Heat sign Gallo, Matthew and Milsap. They are not in player development mode. There is no room for inexperienced players. When Pat is picking up high level veteran role players that is a sign he is trying to win now. These are battle tested players. Meaning they are not gonna waste time coaching someone, they trying to execute the game plan and win. Getting Milsap even pushes Okpala from getting minutes.

Rex I am not giving up on Nunn. The way he handle starting with no NBA experience is something to rave about. Defenses eventually caught up and the break was not kind to him. I think he has potential to be better than what he was the first half of the season.

twix2500 · Post #1639 » by **twix2500** » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:15 pm

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Post #1640 » by **Wiltside** » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:16 pm

Not sure I like the defense with Herro, Robinson and Gallo all in the starting lineup...but offensively it would be legit.

I’m more concerned that S&T would mean multiple years. I could cope with a 2yr deal if it had a late guarantee team option, thereby (hopefully) allowing us to sign a Max guy into cap space prior to guaranteeing the 2nd year.

EDIT: Albert of course with the helpful cap machinations. 2nd and 3rd years non guaranteed is a hiccup to the S&T. It wouldn’t appear to be possible to sign a Max guy under that structure without waiving Gallo...so he’d really only be a 1yr rental?