Joel Embiid -- The Process is now Live

[LongLiveHinkie]

I'm not trying to offer some kind of hot take or be overly dramatic but will it be shocking if he doesn't play at all next year, given the track record?

Not to me it wouldn't.

I'd be completely stunned. There's next to no chance he doesn't start on opening day let alone missing the entire season.

I think people have been drama queens about this whole thing since day one tbh.

[gdog2004]

Trying not to be dramatic here but honestly, I don't think we can believe ANYTHING the Sixers put out about Embiids health.
All of it has a thick layer of bull around it. I would not be shocked if he flat out never plays a full season for the Sixers and goes full Greg Oden. It sucks, but it is what it is. Every center the Sixers have had the last 3-4 years has been injured VERY frequently. All except Richuan.

[76thBearCub]

I'm not trying to offer some kind of hot take or be overly dramatic but will it be shocking if he doesn't play at all next year, given the track record?

Not to me it wouldn't.

I'd be completely stunned. There's next to no chance he doesn't start on opening day let alone missing the entire season.

I think people have been drama queens about this whole thing since day one tbh.

Would you have said the same thing about Simmons at the beginning of this year?

My cynicism around this team is at all time high, and it's been hovering in very high territory for quite a while.

[76ciology]

FO might be making sure that Biid plays next year and the issue wont return, thus the opt for surgery. Big for FO and embiid to play majority of games next season.

[LongLiveHinkie]

I'm not trying to offer some kind of hot take or be overly dramatic but will it be shocking if he doesn't play at all next year, given the track record?

Not to me it wouldn't.

I'd be completely stunned. There's next to no chance he doesn't start on opening day let alone missing the entire season.

I think people have been drama queens about this whole thing since day one tbh.

Would you have said the same thing about Simmons at the beginning of this year?

My cynicism around this team is at all time high, and it's been hovering in very high territory for quite a while.

I can't be a fan and worry that every time a player gets hurt he's going to be out for the season. It's just not fun being a fan that way.

[Sixerscan]

I'd be completely stunned. There's next to no chance he doesn't start on opening day let alone missing the entire season.

I think people have been drama queens about this whole thing since day one tbh.

Would you have said the same thing about Simmons at the beginning of this year?

My cynicism around this team is at all time high, and it's been hovering in very high territory for quite a while.

I can't be a fan and worry that every time a player gets hurt he's going to be out for the season. It's just not fun being a fan that way.

Picked the wrong team lol.

I think it's fair to assume that he wouldn't have waited almost a month to consider all his options if this was really going to be a straight forward simple surgery. I also don't think the Sixers would refuse to provide details about the surgery that's happening "in the coming days." They won't even say where he's having it lol, much less the type of procedure. If it wasnt for Stein's report I wonder if we'd even know about the surgery until after it happened. Generally hiding things isn't a good sign.

But hey, if the Sixers want to alleviate those concerns, they are free to, you know, give us some information. We're outside the trust window for now though.

[LongLiveHinkie]

I think it's the opposite. I think if it was a more serious procedure, he'd have gotten surgery right away. There are no other options for serious meniscus tears. Surgery is the only one. With partial tears, rehab is an option. My guess is he sought doctors opinions on if it's worth missing surgery and if they think rehab will be good. I'm guessing they decided no for a guy his size, and said get the surgery.

[76thBearCub]

I think it's the opposite. I think if it was a more serious procedure, he'd have gotten surgery right away. There are no other options for serious meniscus tears. Surgery is the only one. With partial tears, rehab is an option. My guess is he sought doctors opinions on if it's worth missing surgery and if they think rehab will be good. I'm guessing they decided no for a guy his size, and said get the surgery.

I'm thinking we have 15 different people pulling in random directions.

[Simmons25]

I'm not trying to offer some kind of hot take or be overly dramatic but will it be shocking if he doesn't play at all next year, given the track record?

Not to me it wouldn't.

I'd be completely stunned. There's next to no chance he doesn't start on opening day let alone missing the entire season.

I think people have been drama queens about this whole thing since day one tbh.

Those same people that were accused of being drama queens about Simmons missing the entire season and Embiid's injury being more serious than "day to day".... ended up being proven right too.

If he does indeed have more than a minor tear (which is still very very possible) then we are looking at 5-6 months... which takes us basically to September/October. Add on the 100% Philadelphia Medical Staff injury tax we seem to pay on every injury (Don't say we don't... every injury this club has had takes twice as long to heal... evidence is overwhelming) then it's well into next season.

[LongLiveHinkie]

Hindsight is irrelevant though. Regardless of whether Embiid needs a minor procedure or has to get his leg amputated, panicking about it accomplishes nothing. There's no need to freak out until bad news actually hits. All that does is stress you out in the mean time.

But hey, if people wanna be debbie downers, be my guest. I'm not gonna be on that bandwagon though. No need to be right now.

[tsmith]

This should have happened at least a month ago.

[NJ SixerFan]

He had jolly rancher commercials to shoot. Surgery had to wait til after.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

The situation seems way too sketchy for me. I get that they took the wait and see approach. I'm a Miami Dolphins fan (I know I know), and their QB suffered a bad knee injury towards the end of the season. They too dragged their feet with making a decision on what to do with him. In the end, they opted for no surgery and he should be ready for training camp. Thing is...the same species of idiot baboons that are running them are also in charge of the Sixers.
I don't trust this situation at all. Definitely not trying to be a "drama queen", I'm just sharing my opinion on the topic. I'm more than well prepared to go into next season with Richaun Holmes as our starting center.
I absolutely love Joel Embiid, he's a first ballot hall of fame player right out the box, a plug in superstar so to speak.....But he just can't stay healthy, and it's not something I personally am going to bank on.

[jbent87]

Hindsight is irrelevant though. Regardless of whether Embiid needs a minor procedure or has to get his leg amputated, panicking about it accomplishes nothing. There's no need to freak out until bad news actually hits. All that does is stress you out in the mean time.

But hey, if people wanna be debbie downers, be my guest. I'm not gonna be on that bandwagon though. No need to be right now.

Have you been awake at all the last 4 years? Where is the blind optimism coming from? That's not being a good fan. That's being oblivious. This team has given us zero reason to be optimistic, regarding anything around this team going forward. That's the effect of a green ownership group, slimy as all hell CEO, and even slimier GM.

But you're right, everything is rainbows and butterflies, because reasons.

[ProcessDoctor]

The situation seems way too sketchy for me. I get that they took the wait and see approach. I'm a Miami Dolphins fan (I know I know), and their QB suffered a bad knee injury towards the end of the season. They too dragged their feet with making a decision on what to do with him. In the end, they opted for no surgery and he should be ready for training camp. Thing is...the same species of idiot baboons that are running them are also in charge of the Sixers.
I don't trust this situation at all. Definitely not trying to be a "drama queen", I'm just sharing my opinion on the topic. I'm more than well prepared to go into next season with Richaun Holmes as our starting center.
I absolutely love Joel Embiid, he's a first ballot hall of fame player right out the box, a plug in superstar so to speak.....But he just can't stay healthy, and it's not something I personally am going to bank on.

I'm a Dolphins fan too! What did we do to deserve all of this?

Tannehill had a partial ACL tear and is much less fragile than Embiid. I can see why you might be concerned about the situation here, but it is pretty different from what happened with Tanne.

[LongLiveHinkie]

Hindsight is irrelevant though. Regardless of whether Embiid needs a minor procedure or has to get his leg amputated, panicking about it accomplishes nothing. There's no need to freak out until bad news actually hits. All that does is stress you out in the mean time.

But hey, if people wanna be debbie downers, be my guest. I'm not gonna be on that bandwagon though. No need to be right now.

Have you been awake at all the last 4 years? Where is the blind optimism coming from? That's not being a good fan. That's being oblivious. This team has given us zero reason to be optimistic, regarding anything around this team going forward. That's the effect of a green ownership group, slimy as all hell CEO, and even slimier GM.

But you're right, everything is rainbows and butterflies, because reasons.

I'm talking about Embiid's surgery dude, it has nothing to do with the "team." The Sixers team doctor isn't even performing the surgery, so it has nothing to do with the Sixers.

And being optimistic or pessimistic has nothing to do with anything. It's a mindset that has no effect on the outcome of how Embiid will heal. The only thing you can potentially gain out of it is to not be disappointed if things go bad. But by all means, be negative. It's not going to accomplish anything.

[Ericb5]

I'm not trying to offer some kind of hot take or be overly dramatic but will it be shocking if he doesn't play at all next year, given the track record?

Not to me it wouldn't.

I'd be completely stunned. There's next to no chance he doesn't start on opening day let alone missing the entire season.

I think people have been drama queens about this whole thing since day one tbh.

Would you have said the same thing about Simmons at the beginning of this year?

My cynicism around this team is at all time high, and it's been hovering in very high territory for quite a while.

Simmons was injured in October. Embiid was injured in January. That's a HUGE difference. There is also a big difference in the severity of Simmons' issue vs Embiid's.

The Meniscus/bone bruise is a standard basketball injury. The navicular fracture is the scary one. As long as that one is solid, then Embiid is fine.

[76thBearCub]

Hindsight is irrelevant though. Regardless of whether Embiid needs a minor procedure or has to get his leg amputated, panicking about it accomplishes nothing. There's no need to freak out until bad news actually hits. All that does is stress you out in the mean time.

But hey, if people wanna be debbie downers, be my guest. I'm not gonna be on that bandwagon though. No need to be right now.

How is hindsight irrelevant when it is in regards to us being lied to / misinformed by the organization?

Each individual injury is of course different, but I don't trust these people any further then I could throw them.

[76thBearCub]

I'd be completely stunned. There's next to no chance he doesn't start on opening day let alone missing the entire season.

I think people have been drama queens about this whole thing since day one tbh.

Would you have said the same thing about Simmons at the beginning of this year?

My cynicism around this team is at all time high, and it's been hovering in very high territory for quite a while.

Simmons was injured in October. Embiid was injured in January. That's a HUGE difference. There is also a big difference in the severity of Simmons' issue vs Embiid's.

The Meniscus/bone bruise is a standard basketball injury. The navicular fracture is the scary one. As long as that one is solid, then Embiid is fine.

And Okafor's injury was well over a year ago and he's still dealing with it.

I am not a negative person by nature, not most of the time. Not when I don't have any precedent for it. But we have one.

[___Rand___]

Any this should.... should put the nail in the coffin for the medical staff. They let him play vs Houston with an injury that goes on to require surgery? Fireable offense.

I've been telling a close friend who's a die-hard sixers fan that Sixers have medical staff issues. Sports science these days is about preventing injuries from happening as much as rehab. I remember BC making it a priority for Raptors. Phoenix where BC and his father came from has probably THE top med staff in NBA. Does he have enough clout to transform this staff? they gotta beef it up, invest in top flight talent and equipment to make this happen. Otherwise hundreds of millions you're investing in players will go to WASTE.