Collin Murray-Boyles Thread

[Indeed]

I think we need to see a Siakam or Randle type offensive trajectory from CMB in order for him to be seen as a contending type core player.

Pretty much, and he is closer to a SF than PF, so shooting and mid range game would be even more important.

You can say the same for Barnes as well, since I think CMB has the potential to reach the defensive level or even better than Barnes. Just that Barnes has a better passing game.

After all, I think we will choose between Barnes and CMB, who ever has their shooting

Or we keep 2 of the best defenders in the NBA together and build a roster around them.

With those two as the long term core of the defense we can build a team that is top 3 in defense without having to sacrifice offense. Pair them with a quality stretch big (a better defending Mamu type player) and you have your front court solved.

We know with Scottie and CMB you are going to need shooting and someone who gets paint penetration.
Right now the combo of BI and RJ work very well at complementing Scottie and CMB.

The problem is that when RJ is out, we don't have another guy who gets into the paint.
The other more obvious problem is we don't have proper big man depth.

But those are just roster redistribution issues, nothing a trade or two around the margins can't solve.
The question is if Scottie and CMB truly are the core who is the real 3rd core piece.

I don't think that guy is on the roster yet.

I think BI and RJ fit very well, but Quickley and Yak are OK fits.
Moving whatever pieces needed to get that 3rd guy (Either a highly talented stretch big who doesn't suck on defense) is option A
Option B is just keep improving the roster construction around Barnes and CMB with pieces that fit them.

Either way we want to keep Scottie and CMB together. Build the team around elite defense and smart passing big wings.

If those salaries are not impacting you in getting your offense, and the fit works.

Someone who cannot space the floor and getting near-max is unlikely to help you fill our the offensive players, as they are more expensive than defensive players. Otherwise, we would have kept Anunoby with Barnes. We pretty much tried with these defensive non shooting players, and we ended up with Darko for the exact same reason.

[Dexjackson]

ok.....make it to the Finals roster......

Derrick White
Trey Murphy
Ingram
Barnes
CMB

Malik Monk off the bench.

That team can definitely win the east and can push any team.

Ok but what are you trading to get White (off a rival team), Murphy, and Monk. Poetl has negative value, IQ likely as well. RJ is the only one who might have a bit of value. Are you ok trading a bunch of 1st to get off of Poetl, IQ, and RJ for these guys?

You're right. Bobby can't put together that team with the assets he has now.

I'm just trying to show a lineup, that overall gets paid the same as our current team, that would be a legit contender (IMO and pending CMB's development).

My point being, you can build a great team around Ingram - Barnes - CMB.
Because CMB is getting paid rookie scale and can soak up 35mins/night at C/PF, it makes it possible to pay high level guards market value. Beyond that, Ingram/Barnes/CMB is an elite forward/center lineup IMO.

That's fair. All things considered I would love to have White/Murph. Monk I could take or leave but the other two are my favorite kind of swiss army knives players that can do everything.

[Yallbecrazy]

I think we need to see a Siakam or Randle type offensive trajectory from CMB in order for him to be seen as a contending type core player.

Pretty much, and he is closer to a SF than PF, so shooting and mid range game would be even more important.

You can say the same for Barnes as well, since I think CMB has the potential to reach the defensive level or even better than Barnes. Just that Barnes has a better passing game.

After all, I think we will choose between Barnes and CMB, who ever has their shooting

Right now CMB is closer to a C than a PF. If his offense develops he can be a SF/PF, but he's shown to be at his best at C and a very solid starter already at C.

[Indeed]

I think we need to see a Siakam or Randle type offensive trajectory from CMB in order for him to be seen as a contending type core player.

Pretty much, and he is closer to a SF than PF, so shooting and mid range game would be even more important.

You can say the same for Barnes as well, since I think CMB has the potential to reach the defensive level or even better than Barnes. Just that Barnes has a better passing game.

After all, I think we will choose between Barnes and CMB, who ever has their shooting

Right now CMB is closer to a C than a PF. If his offense develops he can be a SF/PF, but he's shown to be at his best at C and a very solid starter already at C.

What is the criteria that CMB is closer to a C than a PF?

[Yallbecrazy]

Pretty much, and he is closer to a SF than PF, so shooting and mid range game would be even more important.

You can say the same for Barnes as well, since I think CMB has the potential to reach the defensive level or even better than Barnes. Just that Barnes has a better passing game.

After all, I think we will choose between Barnes and CMB, who ever has their shooting

Right now CMB is closer to a C than a PF. If his offense develops he can be a SF/PF, but he's shown to be at his best at C and a very solid starter already at C.

What is the criteria that CMB is closer to a C than a PF?

He has been playing C of late and doing really well at it. He likes operating near the basket on both ends and protects the paint really well, and defends C's really well.

[WWSRD]

I think we need to see a Siakam or Randle type offensive trajectory from CMB in order for him to be seen as a contending type core player.

Pretty much, and he is closer to a SF than PF, so shooting and mid range game would be even more important.

You can say the same for Barnes as well, since I think CMB has the potential to reach the defensive level or even better than Barnes. Just that Barnes has a better passing game.

After all, I think we will choose between Barnes and CMB, who ever has their shooting

Right now CMB is closer to a C than a PF. If his offense develops he can be a SF/PF, but he's shown to be at his best at C and a very solid starter already at C.

If you listen to Darko, he's pretty much said "I didn't think the kid could pull off playing center, so I tried to make him into a SF. Didn't work. Turns out he can play center. I'm impressed and surprised".

[Indeed]

Pretty much, and he is closer to a SF than PF, so shooting and mid range game would be even more important.

You can say the same for Barnes as well, since I think CMB has the potential to reach the defensive level or even better than Barnes. Just that Barnes has a better passing game.

After all, I think we will choose between Barnes and CMB, who ever has their shooting

Right now CMB is closer to a C than a PF. If his offense develops he can be a SF/PF, but he's shown to be at his best at C and a very solid starter already at C.

If you listen to Darko, he's pretty much said "I didn't think the kid could pull off playing center, so I tried to make him into a SF. Didn't work. Turns out he can play center. I'm impressed and surprised".

Because someone is good at something, so he should stuck in that role?
If a kid is good at sorting garbage, he should be a garbage collector, even he has the potential to try another field?

It doesn't make sense, at least we didn't treat the same thing to golden boy, where he can play PG for the first few years, even he wasn't good at it.

[WWSRD]

Right now CMB is closer to a C than a PF. If his offense develops he can be a SF/PF, but he's shown to be at his best at C and a very solid starter already at C.

If you listen to Darko, he's pretty much said "I didn't think the kid could pull off playing center, so I tried to make him into a SF. Didn't work. Turns out he can play center. I'm impressed and surprised".

Because someone is good at something, so he should stuck in that role?
If a kid is good at sorting garbage, he should be a garbage collector, even he has the potential to try another field?

It doesn't make sense, at least we didn't treat the same thing to golden boy, where he can play PG for the first few years, even he wasn't good at it.

If the kid is good at it, enjoys it and can make a great living at it, then that's exactly what he should do. It's not broken, don't break it.

CMB likes doing the dirty work, is good at it and it's his best opportunity to get minutes. Minutes = stats = $$$.

[Indeed]

If you listen to Darko, he's pretty much said "I didn't think the kid could pull off playing center, so I tried to make him into a SF. Didn't work. Turns out he can play center. I'm impressed and surprised".

Because someone is good at something, so he should stuck in that role?
If a kid is good at sorting garbage, he should be a garbage collector, even he has the potential to try another field?

It doesn't make sense, at least we didn't treat the same thing to golden boy, where he can play PG for the first few years, even he wasn't good at it.

If the kid is good at it, enjoys it and can make a great living at it, then that's exactly what he should do. It's not broken, don't break it.

CMB likes doing the dirty work, is good at it and it's his best opportunity to get minutes. Minutes = stats = $$$.

You might not know that he wasn't impressed in going to Toronto. Probably because the fit, where the position he is interested in is already taken.

Watch on YouTube

[Yallbecrazy]

Because someone is good at something, so he should stuck in that role?
If a kid is good at sorting garbage, he should be a garbage collector, even he has the potential to try another field?

It doesn't make sense, at least we didn't treat the same thing to golden boy, where he can play PG for the first few years, even he wasn't good at it.

If the kid is good at it, enjoys it and can make a great living at it, then that's exactly what he should do. It's not broken, don't break it.

CMB likes doing the dirty work, is good at it and it's his best opportunity to get minutes. Minutes = stats = $$$.

You might not know that he wasn't impressed in going to Toronto. Probably because the fit, where the position he is interested in is already taken.

Watch on YouTube

This is a weird troll

[WWSRD]

Because someone is good at something, so he should stuck in that role?
If a kid is good at sorting garbage, he should be a garbage collector, even he has the potential to try another field?

It doesn't make sense, at least we didn't treat the same thing to golden boy, where he can play PG for the first few years, even he wasn't good at it.

If the kid is good at it, enjoys it and can make a great living at it, then that's exactly what he should do. It's not broken, don't break it.

CMB likes doing the dirty work, is good at it and it's his best opportunity to get minutes. Minutes = stats = $$$.

You might not know that he wasn't impressed in going to Toronto. Probably because the fit, where the position he is interested in is already taken.

Watch on YouTube

Or he was just saying F*** because it was a really tense moment and he was relieved being drafted at 9. At least that's what he said about that incident. Not sure I believe that though.

But point taken. He's a 4. He probably wants to play the 4. He can't here. But there is a world where Scottie and him can be a 4/5 duo and have success.

[Brinbe]

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the detonator

one thing about yak's injury is that at least it did allow them to discover/unlock cmb's defensive potential very quickly almost by necessity. might be one of the best rookie defenders ever

i was scratching my head at what the comparable to someone like him dominating at his size then I figured it out,

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[Basketball_Jones]

He’s gone up against Embiid and Huff and more then held his own. Safe to say he’s a Center.

[Son Goku 25]

He’s gone up against Embiid and Huff and more then held his own. Safe to say he’s a Center.

If anything, we've got our back up center.

Pf/C like Draymond off the bench is elite stuff.

[Boardbreaker]

Some impressive d on Nembhard today

[everdiso]

He’s gone up against Embiid and Huff and more then held his own. Safe to say he’s a Center.

If anything, we've got our back up center.

Pf/C like Draymond off the bench is elite stuff.

Looks like a decent starting center at age 20 tho.

[WuTang_CMB]

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[PushDaRock]

Because someone is good at something, so he should stuck in that role?
If a kid is good at sorting garbage, he should be a garbage collector, even he has the potential to try another field?

It doesn't make sense, at least we didn't treat the same thing to golden boy, where he can play PG for the first few years, even he wasn't good at it.

If the kid is good at it, enjoys it and can make a great living at it, then that's exactly what he should do. It's not broken, don't break it.

CMB likes doing the dirty work, is good at it and it's his best opportunity to get minutes. Minutes = stats = $$$.

You might not know that he wasn't impressed in going to Toronto. Probably because the fit, where the position he is interested in is already taken.

Watch on YouTube

well that proves it, gg

[MiamiSPX]

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Stud. This changes everything IMO. I don't even know how you remove him from the SL.

[LoveMyRaps]

Wow! Derik Queen went off today. Check his statline.