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Re: Political Roundtable Part XX 

Post#1681 » by Ruzious » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:44 pm

stilldropin20 wrote:
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stilldropin20 wrote:Yeah I think this is a little bit of a cop out.

Like who exactly at the top of the FBI did not want Hillary Rodham Clinton to become president?

Because I have seen nothing but the top officials in the Obama administration do nothing but bend over backwards to clear her and observe her of any wrongdoing whatsoever.

So that’s a little disingenuous.

Now Trump? Different story clearly.

And again I ask which one of you are OK with Trump and his administration doing the exact same things in 2020?


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LOL that you called someone else disingenous. Let me ask you this... Do you think your brain functions properly, or are you intentionally full of shyt? I give you the benefit of the doubt and opt for the brain disfunction choice, but others say it's option 2. But maybe... it's both. I got your back bruh. You can salute me like Trump does to the North Korean military. Javale McGee hasn't made a mistake that clownish, right bruh? :nod: What's that? He did it on purpose? Alrighty then Champ.


bruh, ya fake news!! seriously.

and if i brain farted 90% of my neurons away on a 3 decade long acid trip to the moon and back, i'd still blithely think circles around you on my worst day. You seriously cant see how over matched you are? Seriously? My phuckin dog sneaks out on the balcony at night and takes dumps than are wittier than you. Stick that in your gaping azz and try it in for size. Then do your ultimate best. Really put that noodle you call a brain in overdrive for all of us to see...turn it on super vibrate rapid spin mode until your prostrate spastically convulses loads of sperm all over belly...and as you lay there taste testing yourself like a moron, half-wit doofus drenched in his own cum and a really weird and uncomfortable crooked half smile on your face...and a thought enters your mind that you could demonstrate even a fraction of what i know and understand...when that day comes and we see it in black and white...maybe then I'll salute you. Until then stick to the kiddy table. it suits you. leave the comedy and nuance to those that are better at it.

You might have overreacted just a tad there. Try to keep on topic and not post when you're distraught and unbalanced.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XX 

Post#1682 » by dckingsfan » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:48 pm

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Re: Political Roundtable Part XX 

Post#1683 » by dckingsfan » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:54 pm

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nate33 wrote:Who is policing speech at every opportunity, denying anyone a platform because they disagree with you?

LOL

Colin Kaepernick

Nate does have a point here in the narrow confines of speaking engagements on college campuses.

But Nate - is that the argument for Trump discrediting the FBI? Is it then okay for Trump to take down the dialog on the Russian probe? I don't think so...
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XX 

Post#1684 » by gtn130 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:58 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
gtn130 wrote:
nate33 wrote:Who is policing speech at every opportunity, denying anyone a platform because they disagree with you?

LOL

Colin Kaepernick

Nate does have a point here in the narrow confines of speaking engagements on college campuses.

But Nate - is that the argument for Trump discrediting the FBI? Is it then okay for Trump to take down the dialog on the Russian probe? I don't think so...


Nate's point is absolute garbage when you consider that Colin Kaepernick has been blackballed by the NFL at the behest of Trump
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XX 

Post#1685 » by dckingsfan » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:25 pm

gtn130 wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:
gtn130 wrote:LOL

Colin Kaepernick

Nate does have a point here in the narrow confines of speaking engagements on college campuses.

But Nate - is that the argument for Trump discrediting the FBI? Is it then okay for Trump to take down the dialog on the Russian probe? I don't think so...

Nate's point is absolute garbage when you consider that Colin Kaepernick has been blackballed by the NFL at the behest of Trump

One point does not negate the other - both are wrong.

We shouldn't be limiting speaking engagements at colleges - especially when we are starting to block legitimate speakers.

We shouldn't be blocking the right to protest - Trump has it terribly wrong.

Trump should be belittling the FBI and preventing the probe and for that information to come out.

All of those things are wrong - not just one.

edit: sorry - came across as much more of a lecture than I wanted...
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XX 

Post#1686 » by stilldropin20 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:27 pm

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The last tweet below in this exchange between FBI employees is the most telling thing about our 2016 election cycle and something that regularly occurs in this thread.<--something i aggressively push back against: the idea that the sheep and mules are smarter than the small business owners.

Not to be overly offensive but there are a few regular half-wits that because they graduated from some inner city or crappy suburban garbage high school and then some garbage state college where you show up and pass...and maybe you "read" a little bit along the way...and now you think that you know something more about life than mom and pop small business owner out in small town america. Or mom and pop small business owner in the inner cities. Or mom and pop farmer. You think that because you make a whole whopping highly taxed $90K as W2 employee in IT or sales ( :lol: ) and because you have a 401K that is doing well and because you watch CNN that you are superior to the plumber that fixes your clogged toilet...and you have no idea that the plumber (who owns the company) often makes $300-$3M per year. And because he owns his own business employing 4-5 people minimally and mostly it's those employees that come fix your toilet while the owner is reading architectural plans and installing new rough plumbing on the local mid or high rise...and might be making half a million on that particular job...but because he IS a plumber...wears somewhat worn out timberlands(not as a fashion statement) and eats a burger that he ordered for himself and his crew while you and and your friends walk by their latest construction project sipping latte's, you think you are smarter than that guy and the entire crew working on that mid-rise. And all you have done is graduate from some crappy high school and some crappy college and followed the rest of mules AND COWARDS off to the local global company. Too afraid to start your own business. You are Just scared little mules...scared little sheep. perhaps even a teacher in one of those crappy schools!! From your crappy school to the crappy school you now teach. You likely started off earning 40-50K and now 10-20 years later maybe you earn 90K-140K. Maybe more on the coasts but when adjusted to cost of living its even less than midwest salaries. You think that because you half-digest the global version of the news everyday from CNN that you smarter than the plumber and his crew. And you might be smarter than his labor. But his labor is smart enough to vote and support who his employer tells him to support. Who his union tells him to support...and let's be clear here. the shepherd is always smarter than the sheep. Always.

You likely have no idea what the exhilaration feels like to save up all of your money, 10 years or more. and sign on the dotted line, put your house on the line, your everything on the line, take a loan and GO ALL-IN.. To believe in yourself on that level takes extraordinary confidence in your understanding of human beings and extra ordinary value in your fellow human beings...to the point that you feel you can win them over. Because the general public at large IS NOT DUMB. they always figure out who the frauds are. Always. Successful small business owners are extra-ordinarily intelligent in ways the sheep and mules of life will never ever ever ever comprehend. because You just dont have the pnache to even try it let alone know if you have the gravitas to pull it off let alone actually pulling it off. Quite simply, you are too scared of little boy too busy playing with his pee pee to even attempt to start and run your own business. You probably could not even run a hot dog vending service on a busy street with the only vendor license within miles. Because quite simply, you dont understand human beings. You preach "value" all day long. You preach "tolerance" all day long. You preach "diversity" all day long. and you actually are the most intolerant and least diverse of thought people on the planet and value no one but your selfish selves. And the public would figure you out quickly and thats why your business would fail. And thats why you are too scared to even try. and instead you continue to follow the rest of the scared little mules and sheep to work each day. punching the time clock for "the man." And come on here every day and tell us how smart you are. and how dumb the "deplorables" must be every single day in the thread we read some version of your "deplorable" speech. Some version of the FBI texts captured in the tweet below.

On this much we can agree. Both small towns and inner cities have their version of the completely unintelligent, uninformed dim-wits for sure (dumber than the half-wits). The difference is in the small those dim-wits are still smart enough to follow their local leaders who as I outline above own both small and very large "local" businesses. The dim-wits in the cities follow the scared little sheep and mules who punch time clocks for "the man." And sometimes "that man" is nothing more than a farmer or small town small business type who's business(es) got so damn big that he now needs global consumers of his goods...so he moved to the city and pushes the global agenda...which is a smart move for him...if he got that big...but for the mules and sheep that work for him...punching time clocks? What on earth do you think you are getting from a global economy that favors foreign countries over the untied states??? ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that's right...it all goes back to the global agenda you consume from CNN. You actually believe that crap that you are a better human being and more "tolerant" and "diverse" of thought because you somehow care more about foreigners than your phucking neighbors right next door!!! Phucking typical idiot mules and sheep. They think they are doing themselves some good. :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: Political Roundtable Part XX 

Post#1687 » by dckingsfan » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:14 pm

stilldropin20 wrote:Not to be overly offensive but there are a few regular half-wits that because they graduated from some inner city or crappy suburban garbage high school and then some garbage state college where you show up and pass...

You got it - this is super offensive. It is dismissive other opinions and not what this board (IMO) is about.

Maybe I am wrong.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XX 

Post#1688 » by stilldropin20 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:17 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
stilldropin20 wrote:Not to be overly offensive but there are a few regular half-wits that because they graduated from some inner city or crappy suburban garbage high school and then some garbage state college where you show up and pass...

You got it - this is super offensive. It is dismissive other opinions and not what this board (IMO) is about.

Maybe I am wrong.



you come on here and preach to us every day buddy. You even have the nerve to "fact check" us. As if you even have all the info to credibly do the fact checking. You cross check with news sources who have been "purposefully misled." Do you even understand how condescending that is???? Do you?????

and you missed the point of the entire post. Just like you do every single day that you go off on your personal fact check mission.

the point of my post you partially quoted was that it is the so called (often self appointed) "elites" that because they went to college and live in a city believe that half of America is a basket of deplorables.

that's the original sin. Get it? And it exists in this thread every single day.

i'm standing up for the so called deplorables. get it??? I dont give a single phuck if you are offended because i'm sticking up for those that have already been massively maligned in this thread, by the OBAMA FBI, and Hillary Rodham Clinton, the person that most of these offensive jerks voted for to begin with.

Do you comprehend that!!!??? Or are you going to fact check my spelling and grammar and miss the point of the post ONCE AGAIN!!!!
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XX 

Post#1689 » by TGW » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:23 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
stilldropin20 wrote:Not to be overly offensive but there are a few regular half-wits that because they graduated from some inner city or crappy suburban garbage high school and then some garbage state college where you show up and pass...

You got it - this is super offensive. It is dismissive other opinions and not what this board (IMO) is about.

Maybe I am wrong.


Don't worry about him...he's just mad because people say he received his degrees from Trump U.

Snowflake triggered! :lol:
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XX 

Post#1690 » by dckingsfan » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:29 pm

stilldropin20 wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:
stilldropin20 wrote:Not to be overly offensive but there are a few regular half-wits that because they graduated from some inner city or crappy suburban garbage high school and then some garbage state college where you show up and pass...

You got it - this is super offensive. It is dismissive other opinions and not what this board (IMO) is about.

Maybe I am wrong.

you come on here and preach to us every day buddy. You even have the nerve to "fact check" us. As if you even have all the info to credibly do the fact checking. You cross check with news sources who have been "purposefully misled." Do you even understand how condescending that is???? Do you?????

I apologize if you find fact checking and logic checking offensive. But this is a political board and facts and logic do matter.

Possibly you could self fact check and self logic test before posting? you might not get quite as much push back.

Also, see if you can do some self-editing. You posts are needlessly wordy. But maybe that is intentional so you don't have to self fact check and self logic test?
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XX 

Post#1691 » by gtn130 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:30 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
gtn130 wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:Nate does have a point here in the narrow confines of speaking engagements on college campuses.

But Nate - is that the argument for Trump discrediting the FBI? Is it then okay for Trump to take down the dialog on the Russian probe? I don't think so...

Nate's point is absolute garbage when you consider that Colin Kaepernick has been blackballed by the NFL at the behest of Trump

One point does not negate the other - both are wrong.

We shouldn't be limiting speaking engagements at colleges - especially when we are starting to block legitimate speakers.

We shouldn't be blocking the right to protest - Trump has it terribly wrong.

Trump should be belittling the FBI and preventing the probe and for that information to come out.

All of those things are wrong - not just one.

edit: sorry - came across as much more of a lecture than I wanted...


I don't think the Kaepernick situation has a reasonable analog.

College campuses choosing to only allow speakers they approve of or agree with doesn't preclude conservative speakers from speaking anywhere else. Nearly every single guest Fox News has on their programming is likeminded and there to pursue their partisan agenda or pursue their conservative ideas that Fox News endorses. Liberals are not allowed on Fox News. If right-wing nutjobs want to speak at college campuses, they can go to Texas A&M or Liberty University or wherever else that type of rhetoric is welcomed. Nobody is being silenced or de-platformed.

Not only has Kaepernick been de-platformed, but he's been blackballed from the NFL and prevented from working in his profession because of his protests. He's also been completely demonized and used as a dog whistle of sorts for Trump's personal benefit. The same is happening to Eric Reid. If you protest in a way Trump doesn't like, you'll not only be de-platformed, but you'll lose your job.

These two things are not the same.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XX 

Post#1692 » by stilldropin20 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:43 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
stilldropin20 wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:You got it - this is super offensive. It is dismissive other opinions and not what this board (IMO) is about.

Maybe I am wrong.

you come on here and preach to us every day buddy. You even have the nerve to "fact check" us. As if you even have all the info to credibly do the fact checking. You cross check with news sources who have been "purposefully misled." Do you even understand how condescending that is???? Do you?????

I apologize if you find fact checking and logic checking offensive. But this is a political board and facts and logic do matter.

Possibly you could self fact check and self logic test before posting? you might not get quite as much push back.

Also, see if you can do some self-editing. You posts are needlessly wordy. But maybe that is intentional so you don't have to self fact check and self logic test?


ok. let's try this again. really short and succinctly.

What makes you (and/or your sources of choice) the "fact check" authority on this board?



^^^^stick to that. marinate on it. dont bother with any of this. you may find it too "wordy" but if you do read on...let me assure you...as a man of science, a doctor, and MD and a DMD...with a masters in material science...let me assure you that even medical research using the scientific method...is..wait for it....often biased in nature. and often extremely biased. Do you understand the implications here?????? Do you?????

Let me spell it out. Scientific research using the scientific method is supposed to be the most unbiased information we gather in existence besides mathematics and science based solely in math.

Mind blowing moment: If that stuff is mostly(or even somewhat) biased....the WTF do you think about news and political research and its biases??? Do you think it all might be extremely biased??? Because I can assure you it is. Extremely, if not entirely biased. IT ALL id Funded and implemented to bring about a pre-determined conclusion.

And thats all you post every single day: Biased "reports." That's your big fact check buddy!!!

In essence, You have self appointed yourself as the fact checker of opinion. Because all of this. every single word of it all is nothing more than opinion. We dont debate facts on here. We debate opinion.

Hope that helps. All of you actually. dont lose any sleep over it.

we're just doing opinion here folks. That's it!!
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XX 

Post#1693 » by closg00 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:44 pm

Fun facts: Comey knew about the probe into the Trump campaign and its ties to Russia during the campaign, and kept quiet. With the HRC email probe he broke all protocols and announced the reopening of the email probe at a critical time in the election helping Trump, he didn’t keep it quiet as it was an ongoing probe. The entire Republican smear campaign narrative has been blown. For good measure, they haven’t laid a glove on the integrity of Robert Mueller.
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Post#1694 » by gtn130 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:49 pm

closg00 wrote:Fun facts: Comey knew about the probe into the Trump campaign and its ties to Russia during the campaign, and kept quiet. With the HRC email probe he broke all protocols and announced the reopening of the email probe at a critical time in the election helping Trump, he didn’t keep it quiet as it was an ongoing probe. The entire Republican smear campaign narrative has been blown. For good measure, they haven’t laid a glove on the integrity of Robert Mueller.


Yes yes but The reason Comey had to re-open the investigation 9 days before the election was because the NY FBI office, which had the Weiner emails, threatened that they would go public!

You see, while Comey took every action imaginable to throw the election in favor of Trump, he only did so because he had to and not because he's a true believer! High time we locked him up and purged the entire FBI and obviously fire Mueller ASAP
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XX 

Post#1695 » by TGW » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:58 pm

The neolib pundits have definitely lost their minds...they are as unhinged as the crazy neocon righties.

Rachel Maddow somehow connects Trump meeting with NK as some sort of Putin plot:


"Always Right" Bill Maher wants the economy to fail because of Trump:
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These people have lost it. People who used to be normal, rational people are now psycho neocons hoping for war and recessions because they hate Trump. Remember Obama Derangement Syndrome? Well, this is TDS.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XX 

Post#1696 » by gtn130 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:59 pm

Nate's latest argument in favor of purging the FBI and ending the Mueller probe is literally, literally that Comey didn't throw the 2016 election to Trump because he wanted to but because he had to, therefore Comey and the entire FBI are politicized Clinton operatives working to overthrow Trump.

Liberals are the real fascists!
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XX 

Post#1697 » by gtn130 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:03 pm

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Wow, now is totally the time to end the Corrupt and Crooked Witch Hunt!
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Post#1698 » by stilldropin20 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:20 pm

gtn130 wrote:
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Wow, now is totally the time to end the Corrupt and Crooked Witch Hunt!


Question:

What if you still get nothing that sticks to trump from manaforte?

The man is going to jail, i presume by this tweet. What if he gives up nothing on trump? Will it then be finally time to end the witch hunt? :lol:
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XX 

Post#1699 » by Wizardspride » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:38 pm

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President Donald Trump referred to African countries, Haiti and El Salvador as "shithole" nations during a meeting Thursday and asked why the U.S. can't have more immigrants from Norway.
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Re: Political Roundtable Part XX 

Post#1700 » by stilldropin20 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:48 pm

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completely unnecessary and rhetorical question of the day: If both manafort and Cohen who are now extremely compelled to testify against trump if they have anything at all on Trump...if they have nothing...if mueller gets nothing of subtance at all tying Trump to Russia or anything like that at all will any of you admit that this was a completely false witch hunt? Any of you?

I'm not asking you to give up your political biases...for example...you can still be pleased with yourselves about the mud slung on trump and whatever political hits you believe this investigation brought on him...and therefore you can still be happy that the investigation occurred and damaged Trump...

but what I'm asking if there was no collusion or any other high crimes...just procedural stuff like a mis filing here or there or even if Mueller gets nothing. at All. If there is NOTHING here are of you capable to admit to yourselves that it was a total witch hunt? Any of you?

yeah, didn't think so.
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