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Re: Butler has requested a trade (Part II) 

Post#1681 » by Rapaz » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:21 am

BigSleep333 wrote:
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so you dont like covington+fultz? one is on an all defense team, the other the #1 pick a year ago. thats a pretty steep nada

That's a solid deal if you facilitate dumping Dieng as well. The Wolves get an above-average defender, a young player with some promise (though extremely high bust potential), and unload a toxic contract.


phi19 to the kings would be ok for me..

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9h9e235

Write it up and let's call the league office. :)
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Re: Butler has requested a trade (Part II) 

Post#1682 » by D1SGRUNTL3D » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:22 am

twix2500 wrote:So apparantly the Heat and Wolves made their final offer Sunday. That was the deadline, that is what prompt Jimmy peeps to have a final sit down with Thibs monday. Yesterday Miami went ahead as if Butler is not gonna be traded and begin writing up Winslow extension. It appears Wolves are gonna try to pin Butler in a corner and force him to play.

we're not forcing Jimmy to do anything. He signed the contract too, you know.
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Re: Butler has requested a trade (Part II) 

Post#1683 » by KGdaBom » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:22 am

twix2500 wrote:Miami is about to sign Winslow to an extension. So talks between the Heat and Wolves may stop for a while.

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Re: Butler has requested a trade (Part II) 

Post#1684 » by twix2500 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:24 am

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twix2500 wrote:So apparantly the Heat and Wolves made their final offer Sunday. That was the deadline, that is what prompt Jimmy peeps to have a final sit down with Thibs monday. Yesterday Miami went ahead as if Butler is not gonna be traded and begin writing up Winslow extension. It appears Wolves are gonna try to pin Butler in a corner and force him to play.



Considering miami's final offer was likely, Richardson, a protected first, and waiters, jimmy can sit at home and make his presence felt on instagram rather than on a basketball court.

If he refuses to play, than let him wait out free agency for another year.
If he pretends to be hurt, stay away from the team and watch everyone else play while you stew.

No reason for Thibs and company to succumb to these demands, especially when the offers are so crap.


That is where it looks you guys are at. Be on a lookout for Butler to explore a buyout at the trade deadline.
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Re: Butler has requested a trade (Part II) 

Post#1685 » by KGdaBom » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:25 am

BigSleep333 wrote:did you guys hear anything better than covington+fultz for butler?

Did we get an offer of Covington/Fultz for Butler. I'd rather have Covington Saric, but I would have to consider Fultz.
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Re: Butler has requested a trade (Part II) 

Post#1686 » by KGdaBom » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:25 am

miwolvesfan wrote:One of the Heat insiders thinks current deal on the table is Richards, First Round Pick plus Dion Waiters.

if Waiters is anywhere near the deal it's a deal breaker.
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Re: Butler has requested a trade (Part II) 

Post#1687 » by Kobewade11 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:27 am

Twix, winslow's extension has nothing to do with the Butler trade as he was never the centerpiece of any offer why are you lying to these people?
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Re: Butler has requested a trade (Part II) 

Post#1688 » by KGdaBom » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:27 am

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you dont have to do anything, but it wouldnt be very smart. take the best you can or you get nada.
Nada might be the best offer.

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so you dont like covington+fultz? one is on an all defense team, the other the #1 pick a year ago. thats a pretty steep nada

I've never seen a player with a more broken shot. I didn't think he could be salvaged, but now I'm hearing maybe he can. Still prefer Saric. Him and RoCo you got a deal.
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Re: Butler has requested a trade (Part II) 

Post#1689 » by Rapaz » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:27 am

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miwolvesfan wrote:One of the Heat insiders thinks current deal on the table is Richards, First Round Pick plus Dion Waiters.

if Waiters is anywhere near the deal it's a deal breaker.

I'm serious, KG. You're going to love him. DionDaBom.
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Re: Butler has requested a trade (Part II) 

Post#1690 » by Crazy-Canuck » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:28 am

twix2500 wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:
twix2500 wrote:So apparantly the Heat and Wolves made their final offer Sunday. That was the deadline, that is what prompt Jimmy peeps to have a final sit down with Thibs monday. Yesterday Miami went ahead as if Butler is not gonna be traded and begin writing up Winslow extension. It appears Wolves are gonna try to pin Butler in a corner and force him to play.



Considering miami's final offer was likely, Richardson, a protected first, and waiters, jimmy can sit at home and make his presence felt on instagram rather than on a basketball court.

If he refuses to play, than let him wait out free agency for another year.
If he pretends to be hurt, stay away from the team and watch everyone else play while you stew.

No reason for Thibs and company to succumb to these demands, especially when the offers are so crap.


That is where it looks you guys are at. Be on a lookout for Butler to explore a buyout at the trade deadline.



They shouldnt give him a buy out. Id rather watch jimmy waste a year and likely 5/190 because no one is going to give him that type of contract after sitting out the year. He's being a diva and forcing the issue at the expense of the twolves organization with all these media leaks.

Hopefully other teams see the lowball offers coming from miami and think they can easily beat it.
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Re: Butler has requested a trade (Part II) 

Post#1691 » by twix2500 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:29 am

kobewade11 wrote:Twix, winslow's extension has nothing to do with the Butler trade as he was never the centerpiece of any offer why are you lying to these people?
We will see, don't gotta take my word. They can explore a 1000 trade scenarios between 5 players for the rest of the yr.

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Re: Butler has requested a trade (Part II) 

Post#1692 » by KGdaBom » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:31 am

Rapaz wrote:
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miwolvesfan wrote:One of the Heat insiders thinks current deal on the table is Richards, First Round Pick plus Dion Waiters.

if Waiters is anywhere near the deal it's a deal breaker.

I'm serious, KG. You're going to love him. DionDaBom.

Shirley you can't be serious and stop calling me Shirley.
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Re: Butler has requested a trade (Part II) 

Post#1693 » by twix2500 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:31 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
twix2500 wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:

Considering miami's final offer was likely, Richardson, a protected first, and waiters, jimmy can sit at home and make his presence felt on instagram rather than on a basketball court.

If he refuses to play, than let him wait out free agency for another year.
If he pretends to be hurt, stay away from the team and watch everyone else play while you stew.

No reason for Thibs and company to succumb to these demands, especially when the offers are so crap.


That is where it looks you guys are at. Be on a lookout for Butler to explore a buyout at the trade deadline.



They shouldnt give him a buy out. Id rather watch jimmy waste a year and likely 5/190 because no one is going to give him that type of contract after sitting out the year. He's being a diva and forcing the issue at the expense of the twolves organization with all these media leaks.

Hopefully other teams see the lowball offers coming from miami and think they can easily beat it.
Man teams are waiting for him to walk. Nobody wants to deal with Wolves unless it's a insignificant loss. Teams rather him sit and rest. That's a plus

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Re: Butler has requested a trade (Part II) 

Post#1694 » by Mattya » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:33 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
twix2500 wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:

Considering miami's final offer was likely, Richardson, a protected first, and waiters, jimmy can sit at home and make his presence felt on instagram rather than on a basketball court.

If he refuses to play, than let him wait out free agency for another year.
If he pretends to be hurt, stay away from the team and watch everyone else play while you stew.

No reason for Thibs and company to succumb to these demands, especially when the offers are so crap.


That is where it looks you guys are at. Be on a lookout for Butler to explore a buyout at the trade deadline.



They shouldnt give him a buy out. Id rather watch jimmy waste a year and likely 5/190 because no one is going to give him that type of contract after sitting out the year. He's being a diva and forcing the issue at the expense of the twolves organization with all these media leaks.

Hopefully other teams see the lowball offers coming from miami and think they can easily beat it.


And why on earth would Jimmy or Taylor want a buyout. Jimmy is going to sacrifice even more money at that point since he would lose bird rights? I’m going to need some serious alcohol to buy into that theory.
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Re: Butler has requested a trade (Part II) 

Post#1695 » by Crazy-Canuck » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:35 am

twix2500 wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:
twix2500 wrote:
That is where it looks you guys are at. Be on a lookout for Butler to explore a buyout at the trade deadline.



They shouldnt give him a buy out. Id rather watch jimmy waste a year and likely 5/190 because no one is going to give him that type of contract after sitting out the year. He's being a diva and forcing the issue at the expense of the twolves organization with all these media leaks.

Hopefully other teams see the lowball offers coming from miami and think they can easily beat it.
Man teams are waiting for him to walk. Nobody wants to deal with Wolves unless it's a insignificant loss. Teams rather him sit and rest. That's a plus

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Going by that miami offer, it isnt the wolves who are being unreasonable.
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Re: Butler has requested a trade (Part II) 

Post#1696 » by KGdaBom » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:35 am

Mattya wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:
twix2500 wrote:
That is where it looks you guys are at. Be on a lookout for Butler to explore a buyout at the trade deadline.



They shouldnt give him a buy out. Id rather watch jimmy waste a year and likely 5/190 because no one is going to give him that type of contract after sitting out the year. He's being a diva and forcing the issue at the expense of the twolves organization with all these media leaks.

Hopefully other teams see the lowball offers coming from miami and think they can easily beat it.


And why on earth would Jimmy or Taylor want a buyout. Jimmy is going to sacrifice even more money at that point since he would lose bird rights? I’m going to need some serious alcohol to buy into that theory.

No way in Hell the Wolves give Jimmy a buyout. If he's not playing we're not paying. If he is playing then he is a bargain.
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Re: Butler has requested a trade (Part II) 

Post#1697 » by Dewey » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:53 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
twix2500 wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:

They shouldnt give him a buy out. Id rather watch jimmy waste a year and likely 5/190 because no one is going to give him that type of contract after sitting out the year. He's being a diva and forcing the issue at the expense of the twolves organization with all these media leaks.

Hopefully other teams see the lowball offers coming from miami and think they can easily beat it.
Man teams are waiting for him to walk. Nobody wants to deal with Wolves unless it's a insignificant loss. Teams rather him sit and rest. That's a plus

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Going by that miami offer, it isnt the wolves who are being unreasonable.

Exactly ... the media so so wants MN to cave, but with offers/rumors like this now out there, I gotta think other teams will consider stepping up. Maybe we send Jimmy to D-League and let him rehab :lift:
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Re: Butler has requested a trade (Part II) 

Post#1698 » by twix2500 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:54 am

Mattya wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:
twix2500 wrote:
That is where it looks you guys are at. Be on a lookout for Butler to explore a buyout at the trade deadline.



They shouldnt give him a buy out. Id rather watch jimmy waste a year and likely 5/190 because no one is going to give him that type of contract after sitting out the year. He's being a diva and forcing the issue at the expense of the twolves organization with all these media leaks.

Hopefully other teams see the lowball offers coming from miami and think they can easily beat it.


And why on earth would Jimmy or Taylor want a buyout. Jimmy is going to sacrifice even more money at that point since he would lose bird rights? I’m going to need some serious alcohol to buy into that theory.
Players do buyouts because they recoup the money they gave up when they sign with another team. If he does a buy out at the trade deadline, he will be negotiating the last 9.5 mill of his contract. He can give up the MLE amount another team will offer him. Also if he leaks he wants a buyout, NO team will trade for him

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Re: Butler has requested a trade (Part II) 

Post#1699 » by Mattya » Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:58 am

twix2500 wrote:
Mattya wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:

They shouldnt give him a buy out. Id rather watch jimmy waste a year and likely 5/190 because no one is going to give him that type of contract after sitting out the year. He's being a diva and forcing the issue at the expense of the twolves organization with all these media leaks.

Hopefully other teams see the lowball offers coming from miami and think they can easily beat it.


And why on earth would Jimmy or Taylor want a buyout. Jimmy is going to sacrifice even more money at that point since he would lose bird rights? I’m going to need some serious alcohol to buy into that theory.
Players do buyouts because they recoup the money they gave up when they sign with another team.

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Right depending on how much of a buyout they received. Why in the world would Taylor agree to a buyout without a SIGNIFICANT sacrifice from Butler?
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Re: Butler has requested a trade (Part II) 

Post#1700 » by Mattya » Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:00 am

If Taylor had any senses he would tell Butler when he asks for a buyout, to rip up the contract a give up all the money owed on his contract.

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