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Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides

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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#1681 » by knickstape4ever » Sat Jul 6, 2019 11:07 pm

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technically they still can do it now if the renege on 1 of their FA's signings (but that would be a bad look), since nothings official, but yeah once those become official, gotta wait until Dec. 15 and throw in Taj or Ellington


Still wouldn't be enough I think they have to be within 20% of his salary.


yes it would. they need to get to 21.7M. you can trade for 125% of the outgoing salary + 100k

Taj (10M), Frank (4.8M), Knox (4.3M), Trier (3.5M)= 22.6

I think that it would also work substituting Ellington for Taj because Knicks are currently about 4M under the cap (which I'm pretty sure counts towards the 21.7M)

"Teams under the salary cap may make trades as they please, as long as they don't finish more than $100,000 above the salary cap following any trade." (CBA)
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#1682 » by KnixinSix » Sat Jul 6, 2019 11:09 pm

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technically they still can do it now if the renege on 1 of their FA's signings (but that would be a bad look), since nothings official, but yeah once those become official, gotta wait until Dec. 15 and throw in Taj or Ellington


Still wouldn't be enough I think they have to be within 20% of his salary.


yes it would. they need to get to 21.7M. you can trade for 125% of the outgoing salary + 100k

Taj (10M), Frank (4.8M), Knox (4.3M), Trier (3.5M)= 22.6

I think that it would also work substituting Ellington for Taj because Knicks are currently about 4M under the cap (which I'm pretty sure counts towards the 21.7M)

"Teams under the salary cap may make trades as they please, as long as they don't finish more than $100,000 above the salary cap following any trade." (CBA)


Good call. Too bad we have to wait until December. Perhaps we can agree in principle sooner?
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#1683 » by knickstape4ever » Sat Jul 6, 2019 11:10 pm

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knickstape4ever wrote:with how things have played out, I'd seriously go after Beal. What other teams have the resources/willingness to get him?

Knox, Frank, Trier, 2020 1st, 2021 Mavs 1st, 2023 Mavs 1st. Who says no?

DSJ
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RJ
Randle
Mitch

that would be a nice young starting 5 that can grow together and IMO make the playoffs, especially in a weak East


We would have to match salaries. We would be 10M short.

Also, I think Trier and Knox could be a really good season. Its better to not sell when your assets are low.


they'll soon be 8-10M short, right now they could technically do it. but yeah I mentioned in another post they'll have to wait until Dec. 15th (tho I wished they had gone after Beal now, doesn't seem like WAS wants to move him)
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#1684 » by knickstape4ever » Sat Jul 6, 2019 11:12 pm

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Still wouldn't be enough I think they have to be within 20% of his salary.


yes it would. they need to get to 21.7M. you can trade for 125% of the outgoing salary + 100k

Taj (10M), Frank (4.8M), Knox (4.3M), Trier (3.5M)= 22.6

I think that it would also work substituting Ellington for Taj because Knicks are currently about 4M under the cap (which I'm pretty sure counts towards the 21.7M)

"Teams under the salary cap may make trades as they please, as long as they don't finish more than $100,000 above the salary cap following any trade." (CBA)


Good call. Too bad we have to wait until December. Perhaps we can agree in principle sooner?


I think it may be a matter of WAS not wanting to trade Beal now. because he makes sense as a trade target: young all-star, soon to be FA on a team that's going nowhere fast. I'm a bit surprised he hasn't asked out
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#1685 » by Jose7 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 11:14 pm

Guys saying the right things in July..carry this **** over fam we wanna see y’all succeed
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#1686 » by GEOLINK » Sat Jul 6, 2019 11:22 pm

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Older players tend to be stuck in their ways. Pops already working on Demars game... I know y’all hate hearing this. Look at what Jason Kidd did with Kenyon Martin and Richard Jefferson back in the day. We should help facilitate a trade sending russel Westbrook to New Orleans to pick up Lonzo. His passing, size and defense alone makes him worth it. This team is going to need a facilitator the way RJ tunnels on offense... passing is contagious Lonzo can set the tone for us. Make our young team an exciting one

Keep Lavar away from this organization before Dolan befriends him for life.


Think of Lavar as a Checks and balances type tool for Dolan’s nonsense . Say what you want but Lavar spoke out on Magic Johnson and the Lakers when they had problems. He caught a lot of heat and ire fromthe media. Only to be proven right when magic stepped down. Lavar Shutting up dolan alone would be worth bringing Lonzo into town

That's cool but we don't need this guy putting it out there publicly like that.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#1687 » by HerSports85 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 11:27 pm

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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#1688 » by snadler » Sat Jul 6, 2019 11:35 pm

Have the Knicks officially announced any of the signings?
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#1689 » by Juco24 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 11:37 pm

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gotta love the confidence


"The way WE'VE been working" what's with that I stuff?!. Lol
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Post#1690 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Jul 6, 2019 11:39 pm

Juco24 wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
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gotta love the confidence


"The way WE'VE been working" what's with that I stuff?!. Lol



A lot of "I" in that tweet. :noway:
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#1691 » by BLACKFEET 2010 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 11:41 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Juco24 wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
Read on Twitter


gotta love the confidence


"The way WE'VE been working" what's with that I stuff?!. Lol



A lot of "I" in that tweet. :noway:

I noticed this as well.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#1692 » by stuporman » Sat Jul 6, 2019 11:45 pm

When someone is talking about the work they are doing to improve they refer to themselves as "I" you effing grammar Nazis. :lol:
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Post#1693 » by newyorker4ever » Sat Jul 6, 2019 11:47 pm

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If DSJ gets his shot to around %35 from 3, he's has the athleticism to be Westbrook-lite out there.


Oh my goodness, i'm feeling great that DSJ is working on his shot and would even better if he actually fixes but you don't have to take it this far....SMDH.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#1694 » by Juco24 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 11:50 pm

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bigtimeRC3 wrote:Westbrook is way overrated . He’s a stat padder and jacks up way too many shots. He is just not that good.

He’d be the best player we’ve had since Patrick Ewing. Some of ya’ll are way too confident on what this team would be able to assemble in 2 years.

So long as we don’t give up, any draft picks, RJ and Mitchell, I’d do that in a heartbeat.


Westbrook has a lot of empty stats that make him look good. Go back and watch the playoffs last year and tell me he's a player that makes others around him better. He doesn't. And besides all that- it's crazy to pay a 33 year old (47 million) who's NEVER been a great shooter relying on athleticism and the athleticism is going to be dropping off. Marbury part deux
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#1695 » by Triple C » Sat Jul 6, 2019 11:55 pm

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Post#1696 » by Knicks_Fan2 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 11:58 pm

The difficulty will really be having a balanced lineup on the floor and playing the young guys in the starting lineup. A DSJR, Knox, Barrett, Randle, Robinson starting lineup is just going to have real problems with spacing which may make all of the young guys look worse. Gotta work in Ellington and Bullock to prominent roles in the rotation.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#1697 » by Knicks_Fan2 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 11:59 pm

nyknicks2k2 wrote:I dont see OKC moving Westbrook to Miami. They own the Heat 21 unprotected and 23 protected 1st now. Would have to be a great trade.


There just wont be many teams that will take him and that he will want to go to. I doubt they get much in return for him.
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#1698 » by Knicks_Fan2 » Sun Jul 7, 2019 12:00 am

nyknicks2k2 wrote:I dont see OKC moving Westbrook to Miami. They own the Heat 21 unprotected and 23 protected 1st now. Would have to be a great trade.


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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#1699 » by Bob Ross » Sun Jul 7, 2019 12:05 am

I think Beal is vastly under rated.

That said, I'd rather stay the course with the rebuild instead on the star feeding frenzy happening. I want to be a top 4 seed consistently, not battling for 7 or 8
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#1700 » by ophdog » Sun Jul 7, 2019 12:10 am

Bob Ross wrote:I think Beal is vastly under rated.

That said, I'd rather stay the course with the rebuild instead on the star feeding frenzy happening. I want to be a top 4 seed consistently, not battling for 7 or 8

Prepared for it to take 3-4 years?

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