ImageImageImageImageImage

Around the NBA - Continued… again

Moderators: Jeff Van Gully, Deeeez Knicks, HerSports85, j4remi, NoLayupRule, dakomish23, GONYK, mpharris36

User avatar
ezmoney707
General Manager
Posts: 8,712
And1: 4,106
Joined: Jun 21, 2006
     

Re: Around the NBA - Continued… again 

Post#1681 » by ezmoney707 » Thu Feb 29, 2024 3:47 am

Cavs team is sus man
User avatar
mpharris36
Forum Mod - Knicks
Forum Mod - Knicks
Posts: 113,693
And1: 118,255
Joined: Nov 03, 2010
     

Re: Around the NBA - Continued… again 

Post#1682 » by mpharris36 » Thu Feb 29, 2024 3:55 am

ezmoney707 wrote:Cavs team is sus man


I don't think I have ever seen a rebounding disparity like this game

73 to 39 :o :o :o :o

bulls have 25 offensive rebounds

we murdered them on the glass in the playoffs last year I'm not scared of facing them because we would murder them on the glass...there bigs are soft. Good defenders but they aren't physical.
4-Peat! 22-25 BAF Champion Spurs:

ROSTER

Walker Kessler/Daniel Gafford/Adem Bona
Nikola Jokic/Santi Aldama/Isaiah Stewart
Aaron Nesmith/Josh Hart/Jaime Jaquez
Alex Caruso/Keon Ellis/Justin Champagnie
Steph Curry/Chris Paul/Ryan Rollins
User avatar
ezmoney707
General Manager
Posts: 8,712
And1: 4,106
Joined: Jun 21, 2006
     

Re: Around the NBA - Continued… again 

Post#1683 » by ezmoney707 » Thu Feb 29, 2024 4:02 am

mpharris36 wrote:
ezmoney707 wrote:Cavs team is sus man


I don't think I have ever seen a rebounding disparity like this game

73 to 39 :o :o :o :o

bulls have 25 offensive rebounds

we murdered them on the glass in the playoffs last year I'm not scared of facing them because we would murder them on the glass...there bigs are soft. Good defenders but they aren't physical.

Nuts, never seen that disparity before either, that team is Soft, if anything we should angle to get that 1st round matchup instead worrying about seeding.

They’ve had one quality win this month (I’m not counting that miracle game winner from last month either :lol:) the rest have been beating up on bad teams.
User avatar
robillionaire
RealGM
Posts: 40,401
And1: 58,124
Joined: Jul 12, 2015
Location: Asheville
     

Re: Around the NBA - Continued… again 

Post#1684 » by robillionaire » Thu Feb 29, 2024 4:18 am

We should have traded for Drummond

Guano was right
User avatar
KnicksGadfly
RealGM
Posts: 17,830
And1: 19,388
Joined: Jul 29, 2007
   

Re: Around the NBA - Continued… again 

Post#1685 » by KnicksGadfly » Thu Feb 29, 2024 4:39 am

IQ has had some good games since the break. Really love how he contributes on the boards.
User avatar
Guano
RealGM
Posts: 40,118
And1: 67,732
Joined: Dec 16, 2010
Location: any port

Re: Around the NBA - Continued… again 

Post#1686 » by Guano » Thu Feb 29, 2024 4:56 am

robillionaire wrote:We should have traded for Drummond

Guano was right


They never listen to me.


If I ran th8ngs
Image
Chanel Bomber wrote:This board really is full of bad people.
aggo
RealGM
Posts: 16,358
And1: 8,481
Joined: Mar 14, 2006

Re: Around the NBA - Continued… again 

Post#1687 » by aggo » Thu Feb 29, 2024 5:33 am

Read on Twitter
?s=20
cgmw
RealGM
Posts: 22,545
And1: 10,445
Joined: Jul 23, 2003
Location: Winning now since 1973
Contact:
 

Re: Around the NBA - Continued… again 

Post#1688 » by cgmw » Thu Feb 29, 2024 5:33 am

ezmoney707 wrote:Cavs team is sus man

We might be the first 7 seed ever to be favorites in the first round.
"Sell the team. Sell the team. Sell the team."
User avatar
ScienceOfLosing
Analyst
Posts: 3,157
And1: 2,290
Joined: Oct 19, 2020
 

Re: Around the NBA - Continued… again 

Post#1689 » by ScienceOfLosing » Thu Feb 29, 2024 6:02 am

KnicksGod wrote:Tatum is pretty great but that team is loaded


It’s amazing what can happen when the coach doesn’t play everyone into the ground.
Hopewe get to see that here.
User avatar
ScienceOfLosing
Analyst
Posts: 3,157
And1: 2,290
Joined: Oct 19, 2020
 

Re: Around the NBA - Continued… again 

Post#1690 » by ScienceOfLosing » Thu Feb 29, 2024 6:04 am

robillionaire wrote:We should have traded for Drummond

Guano was right


Washington looking good in Dallas but Precious was sort of free.
User avatar
Ma10
Pro Prospect
Posts: 949
And1: 817
Joined: Feb 11, 2021
Location: Lübeck
 

Re: Around the NBA - Continued… again 

Post#1691 » by Ma10 » Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:20 am

nykballa2k4 wrote:
FrozenEnvelope wrote:
Read on Twitter


100%! Nothing worse than talking basketball with a young fan who clearly doesn't and hasn't watched the game much and goes mostly by stats!


Shaq pulling the race card because he can't think of anything smart to say :lol:

Loved Shaq the player, but no one is Shaqtin more a fool than he is with his trash takes.

Remember when the panel was talking Knicks he said we could not compete with the Cavs.


Of course you can say that statistics don't guarantee that player x will actually make an impact on the team, but according to his argument you wouldn't need a coach. Just go out and play. Great advice! Even the best players can be the worst talent scouts. Example A

Image
Image
spree2kawhi
RealGM
Posts: 12,733
And1: 5,843
Joined: Mar 01, 2005

Re: Around the NBA - Continued… again 

Post#1692 » by spree2kawhi » Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:21 am

KnicksGadfly wrote:IQ has had some good games since the break. Really love how he contributes on the boards.

Barrett too. But Toronto are maxed out and outmatched talent-wise.
knicks94
Head Coach
Posts: 7,167
And1: 4,682
Joined: Apr 01, 2010

Re: Around the NBA - Continued… again 

Post#1693 » by knicks94 » Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:31 am

Unless the Knicks somehow magically are at full strength by then, the Celtics will have the easiest road to the finals in recent memory.
User avatar
KnicksGadfly
RealGM
Posts: 17,830
And1: 19,388
Joined: Jul 29, 2007
   

Re: Around the NBA - Continued… again 

Post#1694 » by KnicksGadfly » Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:31 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:IQ has had some good games since the break. Really love how he contributes on the boards.

Barrett too. But Toronto are maxed out and outmatched talent-wise.


Yah. They’re placing a big bet on Scottie Barnes to be the guy. I think it’s the only way this works out.

They have some smaller bets on RJ and IQ too, but none of it matters if Barnes isn’t the star they envision.
User avatar
ScienceOfLosing
Analyst
Posts: 3,157
And1: 2,290
Joined: Oct 19, 2020
 

Re: Around the NBA - Continued… again 

Post#1695 » by ScienceOfLosing » Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:08 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:IQ has had some good games since the break. Really love how he contributes on the boards.

Barrett too. But Toronto are maxed out and outmatched talent-wise.


I don‘t watch them much but from what I see they are just a good team. IQ is a good to very good player, but not an IT guy.
Same with RJ and his style is a bit cloggy to flow but maybe he can turn into a slower Jimmy Butler as he is still so young.
They need time together to really tell what they are and have.
User avatar
MrDollarBills
RealGM
Posts: 77,735
And1: 54,646
Joined: Feb 15, 2008
       

Re: Around the NBA - Continued… again 

Post#1696 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:18 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
Shaq pulling the race card because he can't think of anything smart to say :lol:

Loved Shaq the player, but no one is Shaqtin more a fool than he is with his trash takes.

Remember when the panel was talking Knicks he said we could not compete with the Cavs.


Lefkoe and Shaq are friends off camera, so he was messing with him, but that was a cringe thing to say on TV regardless. :lol: like chill bruh save that for behind the scenes

To his point, I think data is a great tool to use, but there's nuances to the game that you really can't quantify and there has to be a balance. I've seen guys who are analytically elite shooters sh*t their pants in big moments and guys who aren't hit huge shots against the odds. Every situation is different, every game flows differently, and analytical data doesn't factor in the fact that these guys are human beings.


I mean I have had a sig for a decade stating my opinion on stats :lol:

Stats are often the objective piece, but you have to discuss the subjective.

I had a friend who would debate Kobe and basically due to poor efficiency, categorized him as the #2 to Pau. There are things like gravity etc that star players, superstar players, have that influence the quality of shots for others that simple stats don't account for.


Kobe being #2 to Pau due to efficiency is insane.

By that logic, Ant-Man is #2 to Rudy Gobert because Rudy is highly efficient.

You brought up a great point: GRAVITY. How do you quantify that? It's a real thing in basketball that literally determines the outcomes of possessions. There's no stat or metric for it as far as I know, yet it impacts literally every trip down the floor offensively. Along with gravity from players that can score at a high level, spacing is also impacted by guys that can shoot efficiently.
Please consider donating blood: https://www.nybc.org/

2025-2026 Indiana Pacers

C: J. Valanciunas /T. Bryant
PF: K. Kuzma /J. Robinson-Earl
SF: T. Evbuomwan /J. Howard
SG: T. Hardaway Jr. /V. Williams Jr.
PG: C. Payne /G.Vincent
User avatar
Gravy
Head Coach
Posts: 7,108
And1: 9,595
Joined: Jun 25, 2015
     

Re: Around the NBA - Continued… again 

Post#1697 » by Gravy » Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:22 pm

Cavs had to play Mitchell and Garland 44 minutes each to beat the Bulls. Maybe they'll get burned out too by the playoffs lol. I'd take that matchup again
User avatar
Gravy
Head Coach
Posts: 7,108
And1: 9,595
Joined: Jun 25, 2015
     

Re: Around the NBA - Continued… again 

Post#1698 » by Gravy » Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:32 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Lefkoe and Shaq are friends off camera, so he was messing with him, but that was a cringe thing to say on TV regardless. :lol: like chill bruh save that for behind the scenes

To his point, I think data is a great tool to use, but there's nuances to the game that you really can't quantify and there has to be a balance. I've seen guys who are analytically elite shooters sh*t their pants in big moments and guys who aren't hit huge shots against the odds. Every situation is different, every game flows differently, and analytical data doesn't factor in the fact that these guys are human beings.


I mean I have had a sig for a decade stating my opinion on stats :lol:

Stats are often the objective piece, but you have to discuss the subjective.

I had a friend who would debate Kobe and basically due to poor efficiency, categorized him as the #2 to Pau. There are things like gravity etc that star players, superstar players, have that influence the quality of shots for others that simple stats don't account for.


Kobe being #2 to Pau due to efficiency is insane.

By that logic, Ant-Man is #2 to Rudy Gobert because Rudy is highly efficient.

You brought up a great point: GRAVITY. How do you quantify that? It's a real thing in basketball that literally determines the outcomes of possessions. There's no stat or metric for it as far as I know, yet it impacts literally every trip down the floor offensively. Along with gravity from players that can score at a high level, spacing is also impacted by guys that can shoot efficiently.

Gravity is a reason Randle is still here instead of Obi
despite all the clamouring that Obi was better for the team because he ran out for a couple of dunks. It's one of the most important parts of building a team
jvsimonetti0514
General Manager
Posts: 9,953
And1: 10,207
Joined: Dec 22, 2015
     

Re: Around the NBA - Continued… again 

Post#1699 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:46 pm

KnicksGod wrote:
jvsimonetti0514 wrote:Zion might be a worse defender than Bojan. The guy barely moves on defense.


He just isn’t very good


Pacer targeted him the whole 4th quarter and he refused to even try to work through a screen or even follow his man through an action. It was pretty embarrassing.
I'm apart of a Knicks podcast! You Should check it out!
youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWW9GUVpNULS97PyptXXU4w
User avatar
thebuzzardman
RealGM
Posts: 82,514
And1: 96,501
Joined: Jun 24, 2006
Location: Villanovknicks

Re: Around the NBA - Continued… again 

Post#1700 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Feb 29, 2024 3:01 pm

cgmw wrote:
ezmoney707 wrote:Cavs team is sus man

We might be the first 7 seed ever to be favorites in the first round.

Knicks will lose the play in game, after they wind up with the 9th seed.
Image

Return to New York Knicks