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July 1st Free Agency Begins - Catchall thread

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Re: July 1st Free Agency Begins - Catchall thread 

Post#16981 » by j4remi » Thu Aug 6, 2015 12:02 pm

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BKlutch wrote:"Arron Afflalo says Carmelo Anthony played a big role in his decision to sign with the #Knicks.

— Ian Begley (@IanBegley) August 5, 2015"

So it's not true that Melo wasn't happy with this signing. They have a history of playing well together. Synergy, teamwork, chemistry - we need it. I haven't seen it on our team in years.


I expect Afflalo to be the best sidekick Melo has had since Billups.

If the Knicks are in playoff contention prior to the Allstar break and Afflalo is putting up 17 ppg on 45% FG's and 37% 3PT FG's (his numbers while in Orlando), he may warrant an allstar selection.

It should feel refreshing for Melo to kick it out to someone who can actually hit their shots consistently.


His catch and shoot numbers are extremely promising. His numbers when he played with Melo (efficiency mainly) are promising as hell too. Then you look at his character and his constant comments about how much he's wanted to be here and wanted to play with Melo again, and that's great too. I think his fall off has been seriously overstated because people overlook the situations he was being thrown into also, but that's a debatable one. Either way, I really think this guy could thrive for us and I think he's gonna be a pleasant surprise for many.
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Re: July 1st Free Agency Begins - Catchall thread 

Post#16982 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Aug 6, 2015 1:31 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:i heard knicks playing on christmas again. dont know who we playing tho


link?

NYK will be on Xmas, LAL will be on, Bulls will be on. That’s 3, plus Heat, Pels, Dubs, and Cavs. 3 spots for clips/mavs/rox/sas/wiz/okc
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Re: July 1st Free Agency Begins - Catchall thread 

Post#16983 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Aug 6, 2015 1:32 pm

heat vs pelicans on x-mas
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Re: July 1st Free Agency Begins - Catchall thread 

Post#16984 » by NYKnicksTAPE » Thu Aug 6, 2015 1:38 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Concrete Jungle wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:i heard knicks playing on christmas again. dont know who we playing tho


link?

NYK will be on Xmas, LAL will be on, Bulls will be on. That’s 3, plus Heat, Pels, Dubs, and Cavs. 3 spots for clips/mavs/rox/sas/wiz/okc
https://twitter.com/HPbasketball/status/629037962555060227

The Knicks will embarrass themselves on Christmas day yet again :nonono:
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Post#16985 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Aug 6, 2015 1:42 pm

NYKnicksTAPE wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
Concrete Jungle wrote:
link?

NYK will be on Xmas, LAL will be on, Bulls will be on. That’s 3, plus Heat, Pels, Dubs, and Cavs. 3 spots for clips/mavs/rox/sas/wiz/okc
https://twitter.com/HPbasketball/status/629037962555060227

The Knicks will embarrass themselves on Christmas day yet again :nonono:

dont think negatively, think positive! melo and afflalo will destroy any team we play
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Post#16986 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Aug 6, 2015 1:43 pm

dont know if its a legit source but ill still post it .@DJJazzyJody says the #Jazz might talk about a Jose Calderon trade with the #Knicks in order to replace Dante Exum.
https://twitter.com/SiriusXMNBA/status/629058701140168704
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Post#16987 » by Trav_NYK » Thu Aug 6, 2015 1:45 pm

JR Smith still hasn't signed back with the Cavs, anyone have any info about why?
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Post#16988 » by JXL » Thu Aug 6, 2015 1:48 pm

Trav_NYK wrote:JR Smith still hasn't signed back with the Cavs, anyone have any info about why?


Still have to get the Tristian Thompson max contract situation worked out before turning their attention to JR. I think the signing of R.Jefferson might make bringing back JR less of a priority.
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Post#16989 » by Pjax4Prez » Thu Aug 6, 2015 1:48 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:dont know if its a legit source but ill still post it .@DJJazzyJody says the #Jazz might talk about a Jose Calderon trade with the #Knicks in order to replace Dante Exum.
https://twitter.com/SiriusXMNBA/status/629058701140168704


This would be true if it is cool because I would love to take the chance on Trey Burke for Jose (we need another guard if we are going to trade Jose even if Trey has been pretty inefficient in his career)

Only problem would be, why would the Jazz trade Trey at this point knowing they just lost Dante for the year. My assumption is that they would try to trade a different position to acquire a PG and we are in need of a PG. Doesn't quite make us logical trade partners.
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Post#16990 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Aug 6, 2015 1:53 pm

Trav_NYK wrote:JR Smith still hasn't signed back with the Cavs, anyone have any info about why?


From a few days ago. I hope he still goes to Philly. Could use some laughs this season

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2015/08/latest-on-j-r-smith-2.html

August 4th at 11:03am CST by Chuck Myron
The Sixers earlier expressed interest in signing J.R. Smith, but that interest has faded, reports Hoops Rumors contributor Sam Amico of AmicoHoops.net (Twitter link). Cleveland still wants to re-sign him and is letting the market dictate his price, Amico adds.

Smith most recently expressed a desire to play somewhere he could be a difference-maker, and while he also said he’d like to start, he mentioned the Cavs as an example of a team for which he’d be willing to come off the bench. The former Sixth Man of the Year started in most of his regular season appearances for the Cavs this past season but returned to a bench role in the playoffs. The Leon Rose client said to Joe Vardon of the Northeast Ohio Media Group in mid-July that he “definitely” wants to return to Cleveland, adding that while he had engaged in talks with the Blazers, that discussion didn’t go anywhere.

The Cavs have wanted Smith back on a modest one-year deal, as Terry Pluto of the Plain Dealer wrote last month, and Smith had been looking for a three-year deal, according to Chris Haynes of the Northeast Ohio Media Group, both of whom cast a reunion between the sides as unlikely. Still, LeBron James wants him back in Cleveland.

A key stumbling block no doubt involves the exponential tax penalties that Cleveland faces with every signing. The Cavs are about $4MM above the tax threshold for now, but they still haven’t re-signed Tristan Thompson, a move they seem likely to make. A deal around the max for Thompson would mean Smith’s contract would cost the Cavs $3.75 or more in tax penalties for every dollar it’s worth. However, only the Sixers, Blazers and Jazz have the cap room available to give Smith a salary comparable to the nearly $6.4MM option he turned down in June, so Cleveland doesn’t have to worry about too many suitors.

How much do you foresee Smith ending up with in a new deal? Leave a comment to tell us.
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Re: July 1st Free Agency Begins - Catchall thread 

Post#16991 » by JXL » Thu Aug 6, 2015 2:01 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:dont know if its a legit source but ill still post it .@DJJazzyJody says the #Jazz might talk about a Jose Calderon trade with the #Knicks in order to replace Dante Exum.
https://twitter.com/SiriusXMNBA/status/629058701140168704


Calderon for Cotton and a 2017 1st rounder
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Post#16992 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Thu Aug 6, 2015 2:03 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:dont know if its a legit source but ill still post it .@DJJazzyJody says the #Jazz might talk about a Jose Calderon trade with the #Knicks in order to replace Dante Exum.
https://twitter.com/SiriusXMNBA/status/629058701140168704


The tweet says the Jazz MIGHT talk about a Calderon trade - this is pure speculation. I can post something saying that the Knicks MIGHT talk about an Anthony Davis trade, but that doesn't make it legit.
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Post#16993 » by Pjax4Prez » Thu Aug 6, 2015 2:05 pm

JXL wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:dont know if its a legit source but ill still post it .@DJJazzyJody says the #Jazz might talk about a Jose Calderon trade with the #Knicks in order to replace Dante Exum.
https://twitter.com/SiriusXMNBA/status/629058701140168704


Calderon for Cotton and a 2017 1st rounder


Did they sign Bryce Cotton? I know he was on the SL team but didn't know if he was signed. If they did I would love to pick him up and grab that pick. Might be possible as the Jazz may be a PO team by 2017. They played good ball second half of the season
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Post#16994 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Aug 6, 2015 2:07 pm

We can actually use Calderon for depth. He can at least shoot and take care of the ball.

Of course if we somehow get a first rounder or a Guard that can play you do it, but really doubt we'd get anything decent for him at this point.
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Post#16995 » by NYKnicksTAPE » Thu Aug 6, 2015 2:08 pm

JXL wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:dont know if its a legit source but ill still post it .@DJJazzyJody says the #Jazz might talk about a Jose Calderon trade with the #Knicks in order to replace Dante Exum.
https://twitter.com/SiriusXMNBA/status/629058701140168704


Calderon for Cotton and a 2017 1st rounder

Y'all stay proposing these lopsided trades that are in the Knicks favor. The Jazz are giving up a 1st round pick for Calderon? C'mon bro...
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Post#16996 » by DaGawd » Thu Aug 6, 2015 2:12 pm

Calderón for Rodney Hood and filler... get er done fill...I mean Phil!
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Post#16997 » by Pjax4Prez » Thu Aug 6, 2015 2:16 pm

NYKnicksTAPE wrote:
JXL wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:dont know if its a legit source but ill still post it .@DJJazzyJody says the #Jazz might talk about a Jose Calderon trade with the #Knicks in order to replace Dante Exum.
https://twitter.com/SiriusXMNBA/status/629058701140168704


Calderon for Cotton and a 2017 1st rounder

Y'all stay proposing these lopsided trades that are in the Knicks favor. The Jazz are giving up a 1st round pick for Calderon? C'mon bro...


Now and forever I will always remember the day we got a 1st rounder for THJ.

In the immortal words of KG "Anything is possible"
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Post#16998 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Thu Aug 6, 2015 2:19 pm

Pjax4Prez wrote:
NYKnicksTAPE wrote:
JXL wrote:
Calderon for Cotton and a 2017 1st rounder

Y'all stay proposing these lopsided trades that are in the Knicks favor. The Jazz are giving up a 1st round pick for Calderon? C'mon bro...


Now and forever I will always remember the day we got a 1st rounder for THJ.

In the immortal words of KG "Anything is possible"


One is a young athletic shooting guard on a rookie deal and the other is an aging PG on a 7 mill/year deal.
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Post#16999 » by NYKnicksTAPE » Thu Aug 6, 2015 2:21 pm

Pjax4Prez wrote:
NYKnicksTAPE wrote:
JXL wrote:
Calderon for Cotton and a 2017 1st rounder

Y'all stay proposing these lopsided trades that are in the Knicks favor. The Jazz are giving up a 1st round pick for Calderon? C'mon bro...


Now and forever I will always remember the day we got a 1st rounder for THJ.

In the immortal words of KG "Anything is possible"

True, but the Hawks are fake contenders, they don't need to be grooming rookies right now. The Jazz need to keep all of their picks...no one is going there in free agency. Why would they ever waste a future 1st round pick on Calderon? THJr at least has a little upside and will probably play a lot better in the Hawks system than he did in ours, but Calderon?
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Post#17000 » by Pjax4Prez » Thu Aug 6, 2015 2:30 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
Pjax4Prez wrote:
NYKnicksTAPE wrote:Y'all stay proposing these lopsided trades that are in the Knicks favor. The Jazz are giving up a 1st round pick for Calderon? C'mon bro...


Now and forever I will always remember the day we got a 1st rounder for THJ.

In the immortal words of KG "Anything is possible"


One is a young athletic shooting guard on a rookie deal and the other is an aging PG on a 7 mill/year deal.


I understand that but also believe teams view such players differently. Do I feel that they would give us a 1st for Jose? Probably not, but do I feel that the Jazz believe they can effectively use Jose better than us? Yes. I am one of the that believes that the Jazz can make the playoffs next year because they played good ball second half of the season once they traded Enes Kanter and started Rudy Gobert. Would they make a win now move to despartely make the playoffs? Maybe, the hornets did when they traded a player of high potential and top 10 pick of Noah vonleh for essentially what might be a rental for Nicolas batum.

Just saying everything is viewed differently by every team

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