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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1721 » by 76ciology » Sun Dec 15, 2024 4:34 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:Dude if we somehow got Sengun for Embiid...absolute steal.


Trade 1: George for Wiggins/GP2/Kuminga

Trade 1.5: Yabu and Oubre for picks

Trade 2 (off-season): Embiid for Sengun/Smith/1sts

Draft one of Flagg/Denim/Harper.


Maxey/McCain
Egor/Martin
Wiggins/Council
Smith/Martin Jr./Kuminga
Sengun/Bona


Im not high on Sengun. I have Sengun and Donatas Sabonis as bigs that are good but wont make you win the championship.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1722 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun Dec 15, 2024 5:30 pm

76ciology wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:Dude if we somehow got Sengun for Embiid...absolute steal.


Trade 1: George for Wiggins/GP2/Kuminga

Trade 1.5: Yabu and Oubre for picks

Trade 2 (off-season): Embiid for Sengun/Smith/1sts

Draft one of Flagg/Denim/Harper.


Maxey/McCain
Egor/Martin
Wiggins/Council
Smith/Martin Jr./Kuminga
Sengun/Bona


Im not high on Sengun. I have Sengun and Donatas Sabonis as bigs that are good but wont make you win the championship.


He can be our 2nd best player behind our top-6 pick. He’s def better than Maxey imo.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1723 » by sixers hoops » Sun Dec 15, 2024 6:12 pm

the_process wrote:George to GSW for Kuminga, Wiggins, and Melton


Melton has been traded, but the core of this deal might be realistic. GSW were reportedly prepared to give PG the same deal this summer. Our season is mostly shot, so flipping George for guys fitting Maxey’s timeline makes sense. No more making decisions to match Embiid’s timeline. He is breaking down. You can’t go all-in with a guy who can’t sustain a full playoff run. His knees are likely so bad that playing 20+ playoff games without massive inflammation isn’t realistic. I don’t know how good Kuminga will be, but I would take him going forward over George. We don’t seem ready to win now.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1724 » by the_process » Mon Dec 16, 2024 12:02 am

PHI gets Huerter, Lyles, and Brown
SAC gets PG
TOR gets DDR and 26 OKC 1st
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1725 » by Decipher » Mon Dec 16, 2024 1:27 am

Have the Sixers released any information on Joel’s knees?
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1726 » by the_process » Mon Dec 16, 2024 1:51 pm

I saw a proposal online: Gordon to MIA for Richardson.

I'd even throw a protected 2nd to get that done.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1727 » by the_process » Mon Dec 16, 2024 1:53 pm

sixers hoops wrote:
No more making decisions to match Embiid’s timeline.


100% this.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1728 » by the_process » Mon Dec 16, 2024 6:47 pm

DET gets DDR and 26 OKC 1st
PHI gets Huerter, Lyles, K. Murray, and Hardaway
SAC gets PG, Yabusele, and 28 LAC 1st
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1729 » by Sixers in 4 » Tue Dec 17, 2024 1:38 am

you could barely field a team but why not.

https://www.espn.com/nba/trademachine?tradeId=23eym2jf

Give them the LAC picks lol

Zion for Martin, Oubre, Drummond and Jackson plus LAC 1st and swap

Sign Paul Reed, Jalen McDaniels, and Reggie Bullock. Play the buyout market/trade market for some 3PT shooting. Might as well go full roll of the dice with Embiid, Zion, George, and Maxey. Getting all of them on the court could be magic or it could end in a disaster. Might as well find out not going to get out of this mess other than taking a huge swing.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1730 » by 76ciology » Tue Dec 17, 2024 2:47 am

Sixers in 4 wrote:you could barely field a team but why not.

https://www.espn.com/nba/trademachine?tradeId=23eym2jf

Give them the LAC picks lol

Zion for Martin, Oubre, Drummond and Jackson plus LAC 1st and swap

Sign Paul Reed, Jalen McDaniels, and Reggie Bullock. Play the buyout market/trade market for some 3PT shooting. Might as well go full roll of the dice with Embiid, Zion, George, and Maxey. Getting all of them on the court could be magic or it could end in a disaster. Might as well find out not going to get out of this mess other than taking a huge swing.


I can’t see us being interested in Zion. He’s an empty scorer who can’t do anything than scoring in the paint.

I’d even prefer Oubre than Zion, for atleast Oubre plays both ends and has a team friendly contract.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1731 » by Sixers in 4 » Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:50 am

76ciology wrote:
Sixers in 4 wrote:you could barely field a team but why not.

https://www.espn.com/nba/trademachine?tradeId=23eym2jf

Give them the LAC picks lol

Zion for Martin, Oubre, Drummond and Jackson plus LAC 1st and swap

Sign Paul Reed, Jalen McDaniels, and Reggie Bullock. Play the buyout market/trade market for some 3PT shooting. Might as well go full roll of the dice with Embiid, Zion, George, and Maxey. Getting all of them on the court could be magic or it could end in a disaster. Might as well find out not going to get out of this mess other than taking a huge swing.


I can’t see us being interested in Zion. He’s an empty scorer who can’t do anything than scoring in the paint.

I’d even prefer Oubre than Zion, for atleast Oubre plays both ends and has a team friendly contract.


He rebounds and plays good defense when he plays. Oubre is a volume shooter who doesn't do anything efficiently and while he gives good effort isn't great defensively. I'm not saying I fully like the idea either just saying we need to take a big swing to try and save the season and this roster.

Trading for Zion when his value is at his lowest is one way to do it. He is on his rookie max deal so he isn't making crazy money. Pelicans are looking to blow it up. Would be worth a shot. You could stagger Zion and Embiid minutes to try and keep them both healthy. I'd take the risk. It's a bit crazy so I don't think Morey will do it but if he doesn't make a big move he should consider just blowing it up. George is still tradable at this point but is a declining asset. Making a trade around the edges is pointless we are nowhere near Boston or New York even when Embiid comes back. So if we don't have a window we need to have a conversation about George possibly be traded to somewhere like the Lakers and have a difficult conversation about Embiid too.

I'd much rather for the FO to find some way to be competitive in the east even if it is risky then just give up and tear things down.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1732 » by 76ciology » Tue Dec 17, 2024 3:57 am

Sixers in 4 wrote:
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Sixers in 4 wrote:you could barely field a team but why not.

https://www.espn.com/nba/trademachine?tradeId=23eym2jf

Give them the LAC picks lol

Zion for Martin, Oubre, Drummond and Jackson plus LAC 1st and swap

Sign Paul Reed, Jalen McDaniels, and Reggie Bullock. Play the buyout market/trade market for some 3PT shooting. Might as well go full roll of the dice with Embiid, Zion, George, and Maxey. Getting all of them on the court could be magic or it could end in a disaster. Might as well find out not going to get out of this mess other than taking a huge swing.


I can’t see us being interested in Zion. He’s an empty scorer who can’t do anything than scoring in the paint.

I’d even prefer Oubre than Zion, for atleast Oubre plays both ends and has a team friendly contract.


He rebounds and plays good defense when he plays. Oubre is a volume shooter who doesn't do anything efficiently and while he gives good effort isn't great defensively. I'm not saying I fully like the idea either just saying we need to take a big swing to try and save the season and this roster.

Trading for Zion when his value is at his lowest is one way to do it. He is on his rookie max deal so he isn't making crazy money. Pelicans are looking to blow it up. Would be worth a shot. You could stagger Zion and Embiid minutes to try and keep them both healthy. I'd take the risk.


Aside from what i’ve said, you need to run the offense thru him to max his talent but that isn’t happening with Biid, Maxey and George.

And if you just let him play the Oubre role, then I’d rather have Oubre.

John Collins would also be a lot cheaper.

I also dont think the ownership would want to have both Embiid and Zion, the injuries would drive way the fanbase.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1733 » by 76ciology » Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:05 am

If this team plans to compete, the only realistic path I see right now is trading for Jimmy Butler. Go all-in for 1-2 years, then tear the team down and rebuild.

We then just do a Heat type playoff run, with Jojo as icing on the cake if he ever ends up healthy.

Batman = Jimmy
Robin = Embiid
Alfred = George

Its a much better outcome than giving up a pick as a first or second round exit team.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1734 » by Sixers in 4 » Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:09 am

76ciology wrote:
Sixers in 4 wrote:
76ciology wrote:
I can’t see us being interested in Zion. He’s an empty scorer who can’t do anything than scoring in the paint.

I’d even prefer Oubre than Zion, for atleast Oubre plays both ends and has a team friendly contract.


He rebounds and plays good defense when he plays. Oubre is a volume shooter who doesn't do anything efficiently and while he gives good effort isn't great defensively. I'm not saying I fully like the idea either just saying we need to take a big swing to try and save the season and this roster.

Trading for Zion when his value is at his lowest is one way to do it. He is on his rookie max deal so he isn't making crazy money. Pelicans are looking to blow it up. Would be worth a shot. You could stagger Zion and Embiid minutes to try and keep them both healthy. I'd take the risk.


Aside from what i’ve said, you need to run the offense thru him to max his talent but that isn’t happening with Biid, Maxey and George.

And if you just let him play the Oubre role, then I’d rather have Oubre.

John Collins would also be a lot cheaper.

I also dont think the ownership would want to have both Embiid and Zion, the injuries would drive way the fanbase.


Not against it either but he isn't going to be as cheap as you think either to trade for or extend. It maybe also be a situation where instead of buying low we are buying high from Ainge. Those don't work out well usually.

I wouldn't be surprised if he tries for multiple 1st round picks.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1735 » by Sixers in 4 » Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:25 am

76ciology wrote:If this team plans to compete, the only realistic path I see right now is trading for Jimmy Butler. Go all-in for 1-2 years, then tear the team down and rebuild.

We then just do a Heat type playoff run, with Jojo as icing on the cake if he ever ends up healthy.

Batman = Jimmy
Robin = Embiid
Alfred = George

Its a much better outcome than giving up a pick as a first or second round exit team.


There is no path to trading for him he makes 49M. I basically added everyone not named Maxey, Embiid, and George to get to Zion 36M. We could trade for Collins he makes like 28M. He probably is looking for at least 35M in the offseason though and has never had a season like this.

So it would be a huge risk too just a different kind. I actually kind of prefer Zion contract because it's not guarnteed moving forward it's actually really hard to find difference makers making less than the max that we could even technically trade for let alone it be a fantasy trade.

There are some guys in that range with uncertain contracts who could be moved.

Randle, Grant, Murray, Bridges (Miles), Kuzma, etc. I just don't see a guy you could even convince yourselves would or could be a major difference maker moving forward and most are either bad contracts (Grant) or about to be bad contracts Randle and are worth gutting our depth over but yeah my thinking is something along the lines of making a go and if it doesn't work blow it up. With his contract non-guarnteed moving forward its actually much easier if it doesn't work out you can either trade him or release him and not be out anything except the LAC picks which is valuable but not a situation where you are maxing a guy or forced to go all in on Collins in the offseason during a career year.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1736 » by the_process » Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:12 pm

76ciology wrote:If this team plans to compete, the only realistic path I see right now is trading for Jimmy Butler. Go all-in for 1-2 years, then tear the team down and rebuild.

We then just do a Heat type playoff run, with Jojo as icing on the cake if he ever ends up healthy.

Batman = Jimmy
Robin = Embiid
Alfred = George

Its a much better outcome than giving up a pick as a first or second round exit team.


You would then be proposing to trade Maxey for Butler. Sixers would have no other way to match salary.

Miami would have to add multiple 1sts to that deal and I do not see Riley doing that.

The other way to get Jimmy is PG. I'm sure Paul would be good with winding it down in South Beach, and it's a very typical Miami type move.

Jimmy moves Maxey off ball and keeps Embiid accountable. Both of those things are positive outcomes. Negatives would arise when Jimmy tries to fight Nurse in the middle of a playoff game.

I would propose this:

MIA gets PG and PHI 2nd
PHI gets Butler and Richardson
WSH gets Gordon and MIA 2nd
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1737 » by mjkvol » Wed Dec 18, 2024 1:59 am

76ciology wrote:If this team plans to compete, the only realistic path I see right now is trading for Jimmy Butler. Go all-in for 1-2 years, then tear the team down and rebuild.

We then just do a Heat type playoff run, with Jojo as icing on the cake if he ever ends up healthy.

Batman = Jimmy
Robin = Embiid
Alfred = George

Its a much better outcome than giving up a pick as a first or second round exit team.


The_process beat me to it, but the only way I'd trade for Butler is moving George. I know your proposal fits your seemingly endless lust to get rid of Maxey, but simply plugging Butler in for George makes a ton more sense.
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Post#1738 » by 76ciology » Wed Dec 18, 2024 3:37 am

mjkvol wrote:
76ciology wrote:If this team plans to compete, the only realistic path I see right now is trading for Jimmy Butler. Go all-in for 1-2 years, then tear the team down and rebuild.

We then just do a Heat type playoff run, with Jojo as icing on the cake if he ever ends up healthy.

Batman = Jimmy
Robin = Embiid
Alfred = George

Its a much better outcome than giving up a pick as a first or second round exit team.


The_process beat me to it, but the only way I'd trade for Butler is moving George. I know your proposal fits your seemingly endless lust to get rid of Maxey, but simply plugging Butler in for George makes a ton more sense.


I’m fine with that. Jimmy’s shorter contract makes it somewhat of a salary dump. It’s a pivot move, acknowledging that we can’t sustain contention given Joel’s health, Maxey can’t be lead alpha and the impact of the new CBA, which shrinks the championship window from three years to just one or two.
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Post#1739 » by 76ciology » Wed Dec 18, 2024 3:39 am

A smaller trade to fix the team:

Suns Receives:
KJ Martin Jr.
Eric Gordon
Reggie Jackson

Suns do it for cap flexibility. They have a handful of players such as Okogie, Dunn and Gordon (averaged 14ppg as a starter for them) who can fill Allen’s role.

Hornets Receives:
Andre Drummond (Hornets can trade for additional picks)
2nd round picks

Sixers Receives:
Grayson Allen
Nick Richards

Sixers got a reliable 3&D SG, who can start for the team. And an upgrade at the back-up C position in Nick Richards who can catch lobs and protect the rim.

Tyrese Maxey/Kyle Lowry
Grayson Allen/Eric Gordon
Paul George/Caleb Martin
Kelly Oubre/Yabusele
Joel Embiid/Nick Richards
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Post#1740 » by mjkvol » Wed Dec 18, 2024 5:50 pm

76ciology wrote:
mjkvol wrote:
76ciology wrote:If this team plans to compete, the only realistic path I see right now is trading for Jimmy Butler. Go all-in for 1-2 years, then tear the team down and rebuild.

We then just do a Heat type playoff run, with Jojo as icing on the cake if he ever ends up healthy.

Batman = Jimmy
Robin = Embiid
Alfred = George

Its a much better outcome than giving up a pick as a first or second round exit team.


The_process beat me to it, but the only way I'd trade for Butler is moving George. I know your proposal fits your seemingly endless lust to get rid of Maxey, but simply plugging Butler in for George makes a ton more sense.


I’m fine with that. Jimmy’s shorter contract makes it somewhat of a salary dump. It’s a pivot move, acknowledging that we can’t sustain contention given Joel’s health, Maxey can’t be lead alpha and the impact of the new CBA, which shrinks the championship window from three years to just one or two.


With Butler here as the alpha, Maxey can take the Herro role and feed off the gravity of Butler snd Embiid. Martin can assume his Heat role, and we rid ourselves of the George contract.

Win win win.
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