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2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1721 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Sun Mar 9, 2025 5:05 pm

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He's very mobile, the question marks are how much of a rim protector can he be as he's 6'10 or 6'11 with an expected wingspan of only +1 or +2. Also he's not a guy who can create his own offense in the post.

His BBIQ is outlier good though and his intensity/aggression and mobility will be strengths in the NBA. He is also newish to the sport so there is potential for him to develop a lot more.


Can Maluach create? He went 1 for 3 tonight vs UNC that has smallish bigs. I didn't see the game, but maybe someone else can elaborate?

I can protect the rim as well as Poeltl but is agile enough to cover PF's and the slower SF's. He guards the PnR well.


Again,

Historically drafting a C in the top 10 that doesn’t have clear all nba upside is almost always a mistake. You end up taking low ceiling guys like Wendell Carter and Oneyka Okungwu and passing up on all star level wings/guards


Also what’s funny about this comment is id deadass trade Gradey for Wendell Carter right now
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1722 » by youngRAPZ » Sun Mar 9, 2025 5:39 pm

NotMyKawhi wrote:Im sure these guys want to come to the joke of an organization raptors.

So why are you still here since the franchise is such a joke? Why don’t you bless us all and take your talents to south beach or something?


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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1723 » by Psubs » Sun Mar 9, 2025 5:43 pm

UnbelievablyRAW wrote:
UnbelievablyRAW wrote:
Psubs wrote:
Can Maluach create? He went 1 for 3 tonight vs UNC that has smallish bigs. I didn't see the game, but maybe someone else can elaborate?

I can protect the rim as well as Poeltl but is agile enough to cover PF's and the slower SF's. He guards the PnR well.


Again,

Historically drafting a C in the top 10 that doesn’t have clear all nba upside is almost always a mistake. You end up taking low ceiling guys like Wendell Carter and Oneyka Okungwu and passing up on all star level wings/guards


Also what’s funny about this comment is id deadass trade Gradey for Wendell Carter right now


If we package Barrett, Poeltl and Agbaji for KD, Richards and #30, then I'd make it a 3-way for Carter.

Phoenix gets: Barrett, Poeltl, Agbaji and #57 (Bos via Orl)

Orlando gets: Gradey Dick and #30 (Cle Via Pho)

Toronto gets: KD, Richards, WCJr and #27 (Den via Orl)
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1724 » by NotMyKawhi » Sun Mar 9, 2025 5:48 pm

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NotMyKawhi wrote:Im sure these guys want to come to the joke of an organization raptors.

Brandon Ingram was cool to sign an extension with Toronto with the high taxes and foreign country thing.


That's before we made an absolute joke of the nba. No one has ever done what we are doing. It's pathetic
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1725 » by Psubs » Sun Mar 9, 2025 5:52 pm

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NotMyKawhi wrote:Im sure these guys want to come to the joke of an organization raptors.

Brandon Ingram was cool to sign an extension with Toronto with the high taxes and foreign country thing.


That's before we made an absolute joke of the nba. No one has ever done what we are doing. It's pathetic


The 76ers have during The Process. If the NBA agreed with you, they would've fined the team, which hasn't happened. Scottie is still playing every game. Reducing minutes is lightening the the load for reduce risk of injury.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1726 » by Son Goku 25 » Sun Mar 9, 2025 6:03 pm

This draft will likely be very similar to Scotties. I find it hilarious when ppl look at highschool videos and assume these guys are sure bet superstars in the making.

At this point it'll be hard not to find a draft that has talent in it you just gotta be good at finding it.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1727 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sun Mar 9, 2025 6:04 pm

NotMyKawhi wrote:
Psubs wrote:
NotMyKawhi wrote:Im sure these guys want to come to the joke of an organization raptors.

Brandon Ingram was cool to sign an extension with Toronto with the high taxes and foreign country thing.


That's before we made an absolute joke of the nba. No one has ever done what we are doing. It's pathetic

How exactly did we make a joke of the NBA?
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1728 » by NotMyKawhi » Sun Mar 9, 2025 6:07 pm

Psubs wrote:
NotMyKawhi wrote:
Psubs wrote:Brandon Ingram was cool to sign an extension with Toronto with the high taxes and foreign country thing.


That's before we made an absolute joke of the nba. No one has ever done what we are doing. It's pathetic


The 76ers have during The Process. If the NBA agreed with you, they would've fined the team, which hasn't happened. Scottie is still playing every game. Reducing minutes is lightening the the load for reduce risk of injury.



Every other team is playing nba guys. We are playing men's league guys to close the game. It's never happened before
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1729 » by NotMyKawhi » Sun Mar 9, 2025 6:08 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
NotMyKawhi wrote:
Psubs wrote:Brandon Ingram was cool to sign an extension with Toronto with the high taxes and foreign country thing.


That's before we made an absolute joke of the nba. No one has ever done what we are doing. It's pathetic

How exactly did we make a joke of the NBA?


Playing men's league guys to close every game. Find another team that has done this. Show the roster
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1730 » by Tripod » Sun Mar 9, 2025 6:17 pm

NotMyKawhi wrote:
Psubs wrote:
NotMyKawhi wrote:Im sure these guys want to come to the joke of an organization raptors.

Brandon Ingram was cool to sign an extension with Toronto with the high taxes and foreign country thing.


That's before we made an absolute joke of the nba. No one has ever done what we are doing. It's pathetic

Yeah...we are trend setters.

:lol:

"Every game"

What bs
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1731 » by ArthurVandelay » Sun Mar 9, 2025 6:35 pm

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ATLTimekeeper wrote:Ace had like 3 great games and he's consensus top 5? Nah man, he's still had a weak season for a hyped prospect.


This draft in generally has just seemed way overhyped to me. It's kind of Cooper Flagg or bust for me. Looking at the Top 5 in this draft, it looks weaker than the vast majority of drafts in the last 10 years. I almost feel like because last year was so bad, that it made people think this year was better than it actually is. The strength of this draft is more depth in the lottery than high end talent, there doesn't seem to be that large of a gap in talent between 2 through 14 and it's more what teams like. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the 9th pick ends up being the 2nd best player in the draft.


Next year is the gold mine, genuinely. This year is a dumpster.

Quaintance looks like Ben Wallace ceiling w/ +passing and some shooting potential

Boozer looks like non-busted version of Paolo.

Peterson looks like Harden level athletic and efficient 3 level hub w/ +def

Then you have Dybantsa who looks really good and might be in same class as aforementioned guys but shakier priors for high level star outcome rn.

These guys are well documented enough to know that theyre all legit and they don't come with many flaws in their kits and production.


And last year was about this year…..

And repeat.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1732 » by aminiaturebuddha » Sun Mar 9, 2025 6:52 pm

NotMyKawhi wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:
NotMyKawhi wrote:
That's before we made an absolute joke of the nba. No one has ever done what we are doing. It's pathetic

How exactly did we make a joke of the NBA?


Playing men's league guys to close every game. Find another team that has done this. Show the roster


I can't imagine that you actually believe that. The only way that would be true is if you've never watched the last 20 games of an NBA season before. Lots of teams do this, all the time. I'm not going to waste my time finding the hundreds of examples of the last few years, but it took me two seconds to go to basketball reference, look at games from the end of last season and find this one, which was the first one I looked at by taking a look at boxscore with losing teams. So here you go:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/202404140SAC.html

The Trailblazers lineup was Kris Murray, Rayan Rupert, Dalano Banton, Justin Minaya, Moses Brown (starters), and Taze Moore, Duop Reath, and Ibou Baji.

I watch a lot of basketball, and I'll be honest, I've never even heard of Justin Minaya and Taze Moore, and yet they combined for over 67 minutes in that game.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1733 » by BoyzNTheHood » Sun Mar 9, 2025 7:03 pm

NotMyKawhi wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:
NotMyKawhi wrote:
That's before we made an absolute joke of the nba. No one has ever done what we are doing. It's pathetic

How exactly did we make a joke of the NBA?


Playing men's league guys to close every game. Find another team that has done this. Show the roster

As opposed to the teams who rest their entire roster, or make up fake injuries?
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1734 » by Dalek » Sun Mar 9, 2025 7:04 pm

Son Goku 25 wrote:This draft will likely be very similar to Scotties. I find it hilarious when ppl look at highschool videos and assume these guys are sure bet superstars in the making.

At this point it'll be hard not to find a draft that has talent in it you just gotta be good at finding it.


I think we overvalued college stats to a degree. Even since Scottie's draft the system has changed. Teams are stacked with NIL five year guys who are men. Seeing 18 year olds like Ace and Harper go against 23 year old guys is a bit weird to evaluate.

I think you have to trust size and athleticism and intangibles like IQ and work ethic. Production is going to be up and down because teams are very good at scheming top player tendencies.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1735 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Sun Mar 9, 2025 7:12 pm

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UnbelievablyRAW wrote:
UnbelievablyRAW wrote:
Again,

Historically drafting a C in the top 10 that doesn’t have clear all nba upside is almost always a mistake. You end up taking low ceiling guys like Wendell Carter and Oneyka Okungwu and passing up on all star level wings/guards


Also what’s funny about this comment is id deadass trade Gradey for Wendell Carter right now


If we package Barrett, Poeltl and Agbaji for KD, Richards and #30, then I'd make it a 3-way for Carter.

Phoenix gets: Barrett, Poeltl, Agbaji and #57 (Bos via Orl)

Orlando gets: Gradey Dick and #30 (Cle Via Pho)

Toronto gets: KD, Richards, WCJr and #27 (Den via Orl)


We’re coming off a season where we’re bottom 7 in the nba. We’re not a KD away from being contenders
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1736 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Sun Mar 9, 2025 7:13 pm

NotMyKawhi wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:
NotMyKawhi wrote:
That's before we made an absolute joke of the nba. No one has ever done what we are doing. It's pathetic

How exactly did we make a joke of the NBA?


Playing men's league guys to close every game. Find another team that has done this. Show the roster


Easily Process Sixers pre Embiid. Literally trading everyone and playing g leaguers the whole season.

Like dude it’s not even close lmao
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1737 » by Psubs » Sun Mar 9, 2025 7:22 pm

Son Goku 25 wrote:This draft will likely be very similar to Scotties. I find it hilarious when ppl look at highschool videos and assume these guys are sure bet superstars in the making.

At this point it'll be hard not to find a draft that has talent in it you just gotta be good at finding it.


I think it actually could be like the 2023 draft.

Cooper Flagg - Wemby

Tre Johnson - Brandon Miller
Dylan Harper - Scoot Henderson
VJ Edgecombe - Amen Thompson
Ace Bailey - Bilal Coulibaly

Kon Knueppel - Gradey Dick
Khaman Maluach - Derek Lively
Jeremiah Fears - Keyonte George
Asa Newell - Noah Clowney
CMB - Ausar Thompson
Jase Richardson - Cason Wallace

I think that Rasheer Fleming would be the big version of Cason Wallace in terms of fluidity and shot creation and role. Actually I think Alex Condon would be the 6'11 version of Ausar Thompson but an shoot the 3.

Really though, it's clear cut only 1 real prize and then a group of pretty good players that could be allstars then a lot of potential starters that can help a good team be very good.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1738 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Sun Mar 9, 2025 7:29 pm

If we were pre Embiid Sixers we wouldn’t even have RJ and IQ still on the roster. Let alone Poeltl
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1739 » by NotMyKawhi » Sun Mar 9, 2025 8:33 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
NotMyKawhi wrote:
BoyzNTheHood wrote:How exactly did we make a joke of the NBA?


Playing men's league guys to close every game. Find another team that has done this. Show the roster

As opposed to the teams who rest their entire roster, or make up fake injuries?


Utah is playing drafted 1st round guys. Same w the hornets, pelicans, wiz. Be honest here. We are playing g league guys
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Post#1740 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sun Mar 9, 2025 9:00 pm

ArthurVandelay wrote:
REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
This draft in generally has just seemed way overhyped to me. It's kind of Cooper Flagg or bust for me. Looking at the Top 5 in this draft, it looks weaker than the vast majority of drafts in the last 10 years. I almost feel like because last year was so bad, that it made people think this year was better than it actually is. The strength of this draft is more depth in the lottery than high end talent, there doesn't seem to be that large of a gap in talent between 2 through 14 and it's more what teams like. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the 9th pick ends up being the 2nd best player in the draft.


Next year is the gold mine, genuinely. This year is a dumpster.

Quaintance looks like Ben Wallace ceiling w/ +passing and some shooting potential

Boozer looks like non-busted version of Paolo.

Peterson looks like Harden level athletic and efficient 3 level hub w/ +def

Then you have Dybantsa who looks really good and might be in same class as aforementioned guys but shakier priors for high level star outcome rn.

These guys are well documented enough to know that theyre all legit and they don't come with many flaws in their kits and production.


And last year was about this year…..

And repeat.


No, the guys who were widely perceived as surefire franchise pieces this time last year were Flagg, Bailey and Harper.

If we're going by their HS/Prep production #1 is that synergy didn't log all of Ace's games so any proclamation regarding him wasn't really based on sound data and #2 Harper was a pretty poor shooter w/ subpar athletic production numbers

Boozer and Peterson are well documented. Peterson had 59 stocks in 15 games on his u17 run, compare that with 23 stocks in 23 games for Harper. Peterson's FT% over similar run was 25.4% higher. His DNA as a player is so much better.

Boozer has been killing it too with 77.2% rim finishing, 4.3 AST/G, 11.5 REB/G, .490 FTr and 82.6% FT shooting. His competency on the interior along with his ability to generate shots off the dribble and shooting touch markers are excellent.

2026 has very serious players. If anything Dybantsa right now looks like he could be the one to underwhelm.

I was wrong to believe the general hype about 2025 but alas, last year I didn't have access to the player data that I do now.

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