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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1741 » by smittybanton » Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:53 pm

sixers4real wrote:How do you guys think will Fultz play in a season opener?
Will he start or come the bench?


Bench. Hasn't earned it. In the sense that his style doesn't yet fit between Ben and Joel.

Fultz has to convert his game from dribble-to-shoot to shoot-to-dribble.

Although talented in his own regard, he was not the fit with Ben that BC touted him to be. There was no reason to trade up (especially with cap space and Korkmaz in the pocket, and a bunch of studs still on the board). I digress.

Changing his shooting stroke for whatever reason did not help. As mentioned above, he looked great in summer league. Brett Brown mentioned his shoulder hurting more than he's letting on. Wonder if he had something like a dirtbike accident or something else "stupid" he doesn't want to disclose? Again, I digress.

Playing off of TJ on the second unit, learning from Redick in practice should help Fultz get comfortable working the catch and shoot first, then dribble penetration off of it.

Would be great if he seizes a starting job by Christmas.

To be honest though, I think its a little more likely Dario keeps stroking the bean and forces himself into the starting lineup by Decmber.

We go huge and beast the league!!! Ben Simmons, JJ Redick, Robert Covington, Dario Saric, Joel Embiid.

Lord help the league if we'd have Nerlens and Jerami on the second unit. But, again... I digress.

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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1742 » by Unbreakable99 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:57 pm

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sixers4real wrote:How do you guys think will Fultz play in a season opener?
Will he start or come the bench?


Bench. Hasn't earned it. In the sense that his style doesn't yet fit between Ben and Joel.

Fultz has to convert his game from dribble-to-shoot to shoot-to-dribble.

Although talented in his own regard, he was not the fit with Ben that BC touted him to be. There was no reason to trade up (especially with cap space and Korkmaz in the pocket, and a bunch of studs still on the board). I digress.

Changing his shooting stroke for whatever reason did not help. As mentioned above, he looked great in summer league. Brett Brown mentioned his shoulder hurting more than he's letting on. Wonder if he had something like a dirtbike accident or something else "stupid" he doesn't want to disclose? Again, I digress.

Playing off of TJ on the second unit, learning from Redick in practice should help Fultz get comfortable working the catch and shoot first, then dribble penetration off of it.

Would be great if he seizes a starting job by Christmas.

To be honest though, I think its a little more likely Dario keeps stroking the bean and forces himself into the starting lineup by Decmber.

We go huge and beast the league!!! Ben Simmons, JJ Redick, Robert Covington, Dario Saric, Joel Embiid.

Lord help the league if we'd have Nerlens and Jerami on the second unit. But, again... I digress.

Go Sixers!


Yeah. Fultz hasn’t earned the privilege to start. He’s clearly not ready. He’s best coming off the bench with TJ running the team with him. Fultz has a ways to go.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1743 » by LloydFree » Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:26 pm

smittybanton wrote:
sixers4real wrote:How do you guys think will Fultz play in a season opener?
Will he start or come the bench?


Bench. Hasn't earned it. In the sense that his style doesn't yet fit between Ben and Joel.

Fultz has to convert his game from dribble-to-shoot to shoot-to-dribble.

Although talented in his own regard, he was not the fit with Ben that BC touted him to be. There was no reason to trade up (especially with cap space and Korkmaz in the pocket, and a bunch of studs still on the board). I digress...

Stop being a "contrarian". The "professional scouts" who write for draftEx, said he was clearly the best talent in this draft...
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1744 » by ivysixer2000 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:28 pm

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76ciology wrote:Among the 5 positions on the floor, which defender's position would you say Fultz will have the advantage in going up against?

PG right?

That's why I think its a big step to see him being able to be a good defender at PG. He just needs to improve this on a team context by being able to add deflections.

Once his shot gets fixed, he will. Don't exaggerate. He will be a nightmare for PGs to defend.


Yeah, if I was the opposition, I'd make their pg switch off to JJ on D. Then Fultz might have a bigger SG on him which he doesn't have that advantage.

Just saying....but I agree on offense, he will be hard for a PG to defend unless they just put their PG on JJ. Length is how they defended Iverson, they can do the same with Fultz with us having JJ so short.

Fultz still has more upside than any PG in this draft (except maybe DSJ), whether or not he lives up to it, who knows. We have to know if our medical staff isn't f'n up again to make sure Fultz is ok and healthy.

It only took the pre-season, now suddenly DSJ has more upside than Fultz. What a difference 4 months makes.


You kinda ignored the word, 'maybe', in that part of my post you bolded. I don't deny DSJ's upside, but coming off that injury, its was hard to look at him that high in the draft.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1745 » by Unbreakable99 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:35 pm

ivysixer2000 wrote:
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ivysixer2000 wrote:
Yeah, if I was the opposition, I'd make their pg switch off to JJ on D. Then Fultz might have a bigger SG on him which he doesn't have that advantage.

Just saying....but I agree on offense, he will be hard for a PG to defend unless they just put their PG on JJ. Length is how they defended Iverson, they can do the same with Fultz with us having JJ so short.

Fultz still has more upside than any PG in this draft (except maybe DSJ), whether or not he lives up to it, who knows. We have to know if our medical staff isn't f'n up again to make sure Fultz is ok and healthy.

It only took the pre-season, now suddenly DSJ has more upside than Fultz. What a difference 4 months makes.


You kinda ignored the word, 'maybe', in that part of my post you bolded. I don't deny DSJ's upside, but coming off that injury, its was hard to look at him that high in the draft.


No it wasn’t. He played a full successful injury free season last year. He looked fine. DSJ was good. There was no reason to trade up. Too many people go off draft express and others when the tape doesn’t lie. Just look at the tape. The tape showed you that we should not have traded up when the gain in talent was minimum at best if at all and maybe even traded up for a lesser player.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1746 » by Sixerscan » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:47 pm

The year is 2022. The Sixers are working on a 3 peat and Unbreakable and Lloyd are still whining about the 2017 draft.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1747 » by LongLiveHinkie » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:48 pm

Jon Johnson who covers the Sixers for KYW and WIP said he contacted several of his sources within the Sixers to try and find out what in the hell is going on with Fultz from both the shooting form and his injuries and none of them got back to him. Then he said he went to another source, someone who has given him good information in the past and who would absolutely be privy to what is going on with Fultz and they just texted him back "I don't know."

So he said he's a little concerned that if this was a nothing issue they wouldn't be so hush hush over it all.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1748 » by Unbreakable99 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:54 pm

LongLiveHinkie wrote:Jon Johnson who covers the Sixers for KYW and WIP said he contacted several of his sources within the Sixers to try and find out what in the hell is going on with Fultz from both the shooting form and his injuries and none of them got back to him. Then he said he went to another source, someone who has given him good information in the past and who would absolutely be privy to what is going on with Fultz and they just texted him back "I don't know."

So he said he's a little concerned that if this was a nothing issue they wouldn't be so hush hush over it all.


Maybe he has the yips.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1749 » by Kobblehead » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:57 pm

Whoever speculated that it was probably a non-basketball injury was probably right. I can see that as being why they're being so vague about it. The shoulder check from the Boston game was probably just a re-aggravation, not the original cause.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1750 » by LongLiveHinkie » Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:36 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:Jon Johnson who covers the Sixers for KYW and WIP said he contacted several of his sources within the Sixers to try and find out what in the hell is going on with Fultz from both the shooting form and his injuries and none of them got back to him. Then he said he went to another source, someone who has given him good information in the past and who would absolutely be privy to what is going on with Fultz and they just texted him back "I don't know."

So he said he's a little concerned that if this was a nothing issue they wouldn't be so hush hush over it all.


Maybe he has the yips.


He would have shown signs of it before. Never had it in HS or college or even the summer league.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1751 » by JojoSlimbiid » Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:44 pm

That season ending injury news gonna be great. Best get prep for it.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1752 » by LloydFree » Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:48 pm

Sixerscan wrote:The year is 2022. The Sixers are working on a 3 peat and Unbreakable and Lloyd are still whining about the 2017 draft.

That would make me about 15 years less pathetic than the guys on here still complaining about the Paul Pierce draft. :D
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1753 » by smittybanton » Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:53 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Whoever speculated that it was probably a non-basketball injury was probably right. I can see that as being why they're being so vague about it. The shoulder check from the Boston game was probably just a re-aggravation, not the original cause.


For insurance purposes and due to a standard clause in most player contracts, it is in noone's interest to reveal an injury from, say, a motorcycle accident or a bar fight or a trampoline, etc. Just speculating. But it would it all make sense.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1754 » by Unbreakable99 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:58 pm

This is just the strangest thing I have ever seen. There was nothing wrong with Fultz’ shot or form. That was one of his strengths. He looks like the monstars took his skills. Maybe he needs to see a shrink. I just hope he gets his mojo back.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1755 » by 76thBearCub » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:33 pm

Sixerscan wrote:The year is 2022. The Sixers are working on a 3 peat and Unbreakable and Lloyd are still whining about the 2017 draft.


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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1756 » by JojoSlimbiid » Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:22 am

Truth be told I told, I don't think his shoulder is in a bad spot. I think its sore but it's not the reason for his weird shot. I think his trainer tried to get him ready for the NBA 3 point line + improving his freethrows and f'ed everything up. I think he's relatively healthy but they're keeping him out to fix his ****.

Personally I would of liked to have seen him take a 3 with his weird form. If it's slower but more accurate it's not necessarily a problem, playing off ball. The contested pull up though would of likely suffered so maybe there is a trade-off.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1757 » by Eyeamok » Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:42 am

Someone once wrote the 76ers will pay for their tanking sins. We get the best player in the 2014 draft but have to wait 2 season for him to play an actual game. We draft Okafor who is an absolute stud, if this was the 1980's NBA. We then draft Simmons who has a slight injury that keeps him out for the entire season. Then we trade up to draft Fultz, a natural shooter, who shot seems to have been stolen. I think the teams tanking debt has been paid in full.

But with that being said I think JJ Reddick is he perfect guy for Markelle to watch and learn about shooting from. If he has to do it from the bench for a while. So be it.
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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1758 » by Eyeamok » Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:46 am

Bret Brown says Fultz what's wrong with your shot.
Fult replies.

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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1759 » by 76ciology » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:02 am

Sixerscan wrote:The year is 2022. The Sixers are working on a 3 peat and Unbreakable and Lloyd are still whining about the 2017 draft.


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Re: Markelle Fultz Discussion 

Post#1760 » by LongLiveHinkie » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:10 am

If Fultz's shoulder is not affecting his shot, and he decided to just change it on his own for no reason, it should be super easy to just change back since he's only used this form for a couple months. Not even.

I wonder if he has OCD or something. I've been around OCD people my entire life who actually suffer from it, and they constantly want to alter things that don't need altering. Like deciding one day they want to move the bed to the other side of the room or decide they want to rearrange the fridge.

I can see Fultz having OCD where he's over-analyzing his jumper and just needs to change it.

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