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2023 Draft Discussion Part III

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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#1741 » by ArthurVandelay » Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:11 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:You know what sucks even more?!

That trading for Poeltl may cost us a chance at drafting Bilal (if ofc he panned out)....*ahem* Presti is drafting just BEFORE us lol smfh

What a fitting end that would be, to show just how dumb & unnecessary of a move that was.


Outside of rising interest rates, that is the one thing that keeps me up at night.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#1742 » by ItsDanger » Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:13 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:You know what sucks even more?!

That trading for Poeltl may cost us a chance at drafting Bilal (if ofc he panned out)....*ahem* Presti is drafting just BEFORE us lol smfh

What a fitting end that would be, to show just how dumb & unnecessary of a move that was.

No difference between 11th& 15th. C'mon.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#1743 » by WuTang_CMB » Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:13 pm

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Prepare for liftoff. His stock is going to rise between now and draft. Been saying for weeks he will go lottery. I stand by that.


Could be. I have him rated over rupert. Have a feeling these mocks going to be all wrong since all these prospects bunched up
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#1744 » by Dalek » Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:13 pm

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The raptors have a chance to add guard depth via UD free agents. Pickett would be a nice addition.


He should be drafted mid to late 2nd but with the 2 forfeited picks, maybe. Wong and Miller or Miami might go undrafted. Souley Boum will likely not be drafted. Those are 3 players that I thought would be good candidates for 2-way contracts.


Pickett is that guy that follows somewhat of a Jalen Brunson type. You can see the mid-range and at the rim damage he does and that is because he is a post-up/power guard. He is interesting because he can defend and lead his team, but you do wonder if he can pull off the same game in the NBA. Brunson evolved his shooting in a quick period, while Pickett has been in college for 5 years. These five year college guys have intriguing numbers, but are they just G-League/Euro League stars?
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#1745 » by PhilBlackson » Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:18 pm

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Prepare for liftoff. His stock is going to rise between now and draft. Been saying for weeks he will go lottery. I stand by that.


Don't let that kid continue to grow before the combine and show up being 6'9+ or forget Taylor Hendricks lol you'll hear the "Giannis" type of buzz grow around him and then there's no way...
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#1746 » by ItsDanger » Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:19 pm

Pickett is a guy I'd target for your #11-15 spot on team. Not as a regular rotation guy but someone you can give 10-15 minutes when an injury occurs and feel comfortable. Brunson is way more crafty off the dribble. Pickett is more power, post guy, excellent rebounder. I think they're different style of player.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#1747 » by ATLTimekeeper » Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:21 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:You know what sucks even more?!

That trading for Poeltl may cost us a chance at drafting Bilal (if ofc he panned out)....*ahem* Presti is drafting just BEFORE us lol smfh

What a fitting end that would be, to show just how dumb & unnecessary of a move that was.


If he really loved him he would just use a bunch of his firsts to move up and leapfrog anyway. This isn't anything to be fuming about. As is, Presti picked Steven Adams over Giannis, Reggie Jackson over Jimmy Butler, Perry Jones over Draymond, Mitch McGary over Clint Capela, took Josh Huestis just so he wouldn't sign a first round contract over Kyle Anderson (and, like Jokic wasn't taken too far after that), Terence Ferguson over Jarrett Allen and OG, Poku over Maxey, sold Sengun to Houston.

Full credit for Russ and Serge and Tony Parker, though. But he has enough bad picks to not get too sweaty.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#1748 » by God Squad » Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:25 pm

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Aye. One of the biggest gems has officially declared. If hes not snached up by the Jazz or OKC, I believe he's Masai's guy.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#1749 » by HumbleRen » Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:41 pm

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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#1750 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:58 pm

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REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:I still think Maxwell Lewis is the single best year 1 G-league candidate for any team to draft and develop. This kid shows incredible flashes of 3 level scoring and is a late bloomer. Would have loved to have seen him transfer schools and play out his junior year.

He is slow to process things still but if he ever becomes a guy who processes the action faster and things start clicking in terms of reads and decisiveness he has the underlying ability to be an all-star in the NBA. There no is way in which this guy cannot score you watch him and he will score from every spot on the floor in every way imaginable it's incredible. His handle can get sloppy at times and that really bothers me though.

If I have a pick to use as a luxury I'm taking him and trying to develop him for 2-3 years. It's hard to get a read on his trajectory but out of all the north american project picks to take a risk on later in the draft I would take it on him. He needs an organization that will bring him along slowly and push him to get better on the defensive side of the ball.


I think he ends up in the second round because the defensive showing was pretty poor (-0.3 DBPM) and his game on offense needs a lot of work despite those flashes that show some advanced shot creation. Consider that he will be 21 at the start of the next NBA season and a guy like Brandon Boston is 21 and has two years of playing under his belt with the Clips and he barely gets to play despite all of that talent.


Not gonna disagree with that, there are a lot more guys who are closer to being NBA ready with much higher floors (Lewis has a very low floor - typical boom or bust prospect) so I can see him going in the 2nd but damn, the stuff he does on the offensive end is impressive. There are guys who you say if they put it all together they'll be a decent/serviceable player but if Lewis puts it all together he will definitely be an all-star. It's really the defense that looks like it could hold him back from ever succeeding but it's not like he doesn't have the length and tools. He needs to go to a really good organization.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#1751 » by Clutch0z24 » Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:59 pm

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My pick if i had too choose rn in our draft range is Sensabaugh ....Just instant offense and has such good form on the Jumper....Also has decent size for a SG and can get the mid range going, Foot work is impressive for his age as well.....Kind of reminds of a DeRozan with a 3 point shot....Hope he slips to 13.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#1752 » by HumbleRen » Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:03 pm

Clutch0z24 wrote:;ab_channel=FullCourtFilms

My pick if i had too choose rn in our draft range is Sensabaugh ....Just instant offense and has such good form on the Jumper....Also has decent size for a SG and can get the mid range going, Foot work is impressive for his age as well.....Kind of reminds of a DeRozan with a 3 point shot....Hope he slips to 13.


Doesn't get down hill enough for my taste. Makes a living off of making hard shots, ala GTJ.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#1753 » by Mark_83 » Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:05 pm

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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#1754 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:06 pm

lol Coulibaly isn't going top 10 in this draft

I don't know what's going on here with Cissoko top 5 Couilbaly top 10. Masai has brainwashed this fanbase into hyping up long african players.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#1755 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:10 pm

I will say that I like Coulibaly's shooting mechanics a lot better than Cissoko's primarily due to how he sets with a much wider base
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#1756 » by WuTang_CMB » Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:13 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:
ArthurVandelay wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
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Prepare for liftoff. His stock is going to rise between now and draft. Been saying for weeks he will go lottery. I stand by that.


Don't let that kid continue to grow before the combine and show up being 6'9+ or forget Taylor Hendricks lol you'll hear the "Giannis" type of buzz grow around him and then there's no way...


And you know whoever they pick likely will turn out to be a 'player'. Masai has to hit this draft no excuses
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#1757 » by Yallbecrazy » Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:13 pm

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Dean has spoken.


I'm not sure Dean knows how to rank French league guys, and might be a little angry after ranking Frank Ntkilina so high.

That being said the French league is fairly notorious for a bunch of guys that can't play defense so offensive numbers are inflated.

Can someone link his stats this year with the real team and not the u21 or whatever league he was playing in?
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#1758 » by Clutch0z24 » Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:17 pm

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Clutch0z24 wrote:;ab_channel=FullCourtFilms

My pick if i had too choose rn in our draft range is Sensabaugh ....Just instant offense and has such good form on the Jumper....Also has decent size for a SG and can get the mid range going, Foot work is impressive for his age as well.....Kind of reminds of a DeRozan with a 3 point shot....Hope he slips to 13.


Doesn't get down hill enough for my taste. Makes a living off of making hard shots, ala GTJ.


I would rather a player show me he can make them tough shots than get every shot a dunk or a wide open layup....This shows he has skills and NBA Skills...You need a mid range pullup and a 3 point jumper in todays NBA....He doesn't have that explosive athletic ability but when he wants too can also do that if you watched him he had some poster dunks on people this year...

Like i said watching his highlights he reminds me of a DeRozan type....But that 3 pointer is money....

He might take tough shots but hes made them at a high rate....48percent fg and 40 percent 3 point with 83 percent from the line.

Just seems like the more polished player than i see others suggesting that look more like projects like Bruno where its a high risk reward type player....At 13 its hard to take that gamble...Id rather trade for another pick to pick up them types...

Think we need a guard in this draft regardless and there are a handfull of them at 13 so should be interesting.
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#1759 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:17 pm

Yallbecrazy wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:
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Dean has spoken.


I'm not sure Dean knows how to rank French league guys, and might be a little angry after ranking Frank Ntkilina so high.

That being said the French league is fairly notorious for a bunch of guys that can't play defense so offensive numbers are inflated.

Can someone link his stats this year with the real team and not the u21 or whatever league he was playing in?


https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/bilal-coulibaly-1.html
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Re: 2023 Draft Discussion Part III 

Post#1760 » by Potential » Thu Apr 20, 2023 6:19 pm

I just simmed the tankathon for the 1st time and we got the 3rd pick

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