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Trade/Free Agency Thread pt 4 - 2023-24 Off-season - Thread Dread Redemption!

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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread pt 4 - 2023-24 Off-season - Thread Dread Redemption! 

Post#1761 » by ajones9219 » Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:22 pm

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Andrew McCeltic wrote:Possible Clippers disagreed about whether Brogdon is going to need surgery

Eh, IDK. They'd need to have one of their doctors examine him and do a physical before making that type of call.


I'm guessing there just wasn't time to have a doctor look at him and Boston couldn't wait for them due to the dealine
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Post#1762 » by GoGreen » Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:23 pm

Marcus is a multi millionaire in top health playing a game he loves for his job. I'm sure it stings and I don't mean to sound callus, but in the grand scheme of life he has it very, very good. He'll be fine. :)
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Post#1764 » by CelticsPride18 » Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:24 pm

Now that we have no heart and soul maybe we become a ruthless team. You don’t need a heart to be ruthless
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Post#1765 » by GoGreen » Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:25 pm

Whatever the Brogdan situation is, Cs now have 2 extra 1sts they could use to off load him if they want. That Warriors pick could be pretty good next year. It's going to be a crazy night me think...
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Post#1766 » by Andrew McCeltic » Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:25 pm

Precedent for a team trading a “culture” guy like Smart and regretting it? Maybe Perk to OKC but the considerations there were different.

Bulls had to trade Charles Oakley for Bill Cartwright - and Horace Grant helped - to get out of the ECF.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread pt 4 - 2023-24 Off-season - Thread Dread Redemption! 

Post#1767 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:26 pm

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Hal14 wrote:Maybe. At this point it's just rumors/heresy.

If Brogdon had an injury that was so severe he wouldn't be ready to play 4 months from now, we probably would have heard some specifics by now.

Who knows, maybe the Clippers just don't want to pay $45 million over the next 2 years for a guard who's under 6'5", 30 yrs old, (and even before this season) was known to be injury prone, and during this season he was below average defensively, and this season took ill advised shots, was at times a black hole who didn't pass the ball enough..


If that is the case them why did this take until around 10:30 PM for the deal to be blown up? I would assume if the clippers were not interested in Brogdon they would not have even been speaking to Boston to begin with.

I wouldn't assume that.

These deals take a lot of time. There's tons of deals we never hear about, because they fall apart at the last minute.

Look at the Clippers moves over the past couple of years. It's a revolving door where they just keep trying our different guys to play PG for them. They had Beverley, get rid of him, try Reggie Jackson. Flipped him for Bones Hyland. Meanwhile they tried John Wall this past season, that didn't work. So then they got Westbrook. Oh yeah, they had Bledsoe in there too for a little while. If you're a PG with a pulse, chances are you've either played for the Clippers in the past few years, or the Clippers have been in discussions about trying to acquire you during that time.


They do but they were apparently speaking all day and then at 10:30 the deal gets blown up and reports start coming out about how he has significant health issues. Doubt that is a coincidence.

I believe if Brogdon was healthy he would be a clipper because I think trading away Smart was Stevens last choice to land Porzingis
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Post#1768 » by The Corey's » Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:29 pm

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
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If that is the case them why did this take until around 10:30 PM for the deal to be blown up? I would assume if the clippers were not interested in Brogdon they would not have even been speaking to Boston to begin with.

I wouldn't assume that.

These deals take a lot of time. There's tons of deals we never hear about, because they fall apart at the last minute.

Look at the Clippers moves over the past couple of years. It's a revolving door where they just keep trying our different guys to play PG for them. They had Beverley, get rid of him, try Reggie Jackson. Flipped him for Bones Hyland. Meanwhile they tried John Wall this past season, that didn't work. So then they got Westbrook. Oh yeah, they had Bledsoe in there too for a little while. If you're a PG with a pulse, chances are you've either played for the Clippers in the past few years, or the Clippers have been in discussions about trying to acquire you during that time.


They do but they were apparently speaking all day and then at 10:30 the deal gets blown up and reports start coming out about how he has significant health issues. Doubt that is a coincidence.

I believe if Brogdon was healthy he would be a clipper because I think trading away Smart was Stevens last choice.


You don't just trade Smart just because your other deal fell through.

Smart was on the move this summer regardless is how one should read it.
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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread pt 4 - 2023-24 Off-season - Thread Dread Redemption! 

Post#1769 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:32 pm

The Corey's wrote:
The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
Hal14 wrote:I wouldn't assume that.

These deals take a lot of time. There's tons of deals we never hear about, because they fall apart at the last minute.

Look at the Clippers moves over the past couple of years. It's a revolving door where they just keep trying our different guys to play PG for them. They had Beverley, get rid of him, try Reggie Jackson. Flipped him for Bones Hyland. Meanwhile they tried John Wall this past season, that didn't work. So then they got Westbrook. Oh yeah, they had Bledsoe in there too for a little while. If you're a PG with a pulse, chances are you've either played for the Clippers in the past few years, or the Clippers have been in discussions about trying to acquire you during that time.


They do but they were apparently speaking all day and then at 10:30 the deal gets blown up and reports start coming out about how he has significant health issues. Doubt that is a coincidence.

I believe if Brogdon was healthy he would be a clipper because I think trading away Smart was Stevens last choice.


You don't just trade Smart just because your other deal fell through.

Smart was on the move this summer regardless is how one should read it.


I think you do if you are in desperate need of a big and a change of personal. Stevens clearly wanted Porzingis and time was becoming an issue. Im guessing Memphis was on standby in case the clippers deal fell through and that is why it happened so quickly.

I don't think Boston was trading Smart and Brogdon but I guess we will never know.
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Post#1770 » by FlyBono » Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:32 pm

Call Portland!

Create another 3 Team deal with Brown
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Post#1771 » by ParticleMan » Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:37 pm

If Charlotte drafts Scoot, could TRo be on the move?
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/272050/Scoot-Henderson-To-Hornets-At-No-2-Gaining-Serious-Momentun

Would love to get him back. Brogs + the 1st rounders.
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Post#1772 » by MrGreenRunsDeep » Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:39 pm

FlyBono wrote:Call Portland!

Create another 3 Team deal with Brown

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Re: Trade/Free Agency Thread pt 4 - 2023-24 Off-season - Thread Dread Redemption! 

Post#1773 » by Hal14 » Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:47 pm

GoGreen wrote:Marcus is a multi millionaire in top health playing a game he loves for his job. I'm sure it stings and I don't mean to sound callus, but in the grand scheme of life he has it very, very good. He'll be fine. :)

Exactly. Most guys get traded a bunch of times during their career.

He got to stay with the same team for 9 years. That's very rare in this day and age.
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Post#1774 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:47 pm

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Post#1775 » by chrisab123 » Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:51 pm

ParticleMan wrote:If Charlotte drafts Scoot, could TRo be on the move?
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/272050/Scoot-Henderson-To-Hornets-At-No-2-Gaining-Serious-Momentun

Would love to get him back. Brogs + the 1st rounders.


God no. Not for any price. This guy and Kyrie ripped apart the locker room before. Can you imagine the uproar from Rozier when he realizes that Tatum is higher in the pecking order than him? Dude has the ego of a top 5 player.
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Post#1777 » by bisme37 » Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:52 pm

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Post#1778 » by bigfoot_cryptozoology » Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:53 pm

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Post#1779 » by CelticsPride18 » Thu Jun 22, 2023 5:56 pm

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