'14 Draft Thread - Parker Declares. List your top 4

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #1781 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Mon May 12, 2014 2:08 am

cinematographer wrote:Sheesh, Wiggins. Are you that nervous about your handle and/or jumper that you'll pass up the chance to post a 58" vertical?

I don't get the comments about the on-court stuff with Parker and Wiggins. It's pretty normal for the top picks not to participate. I don't think those guys were ever going to play. It is weird they are getting tested.

skones · Post #1782 » by **skones** » Mon May 12, 2014 2:36 am

Since when did Embiid have surgery?

Matches Malone · Post #1783 » by **Matches Malone** » Mon May 12, 2014 2:41 am

Do top prospects usually not go to the combine? I don't really remember the top prospects not at least doing something at the combine. Weird. Of course my mind goes to it being they don't want to play for Milwaukee. I mean why else would the top 3 prospects not workout when Milwaukee has the worst record? lol

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theFireBlanket · Post #1784 » by **theFireBlanket** » Mon May 12, 2014 3:09 am

Those three are going to do individual workouts in Milwaukee, whether or not they're attending the combine.

buckboy · Post #1785 » by **buckboy** » Mon May 12, 2014 3:38 am

breakchains wrote:Odd that the premise is Parker or Wiggins with the number 1 pick when Embiid is the best prospect of the three. I get that it's more of an apples to apples comparison because both are wing-ish players who have been connected for several years now, but still.

Jesus.

Enough already. You're a really good poster, but the whole stating-Embiid-is-the-best-prospect-like-it's-a-fact thing is really annoying.

Post #1786 » by **ReasonablySober** » Mon May 12, 2014 3:42 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:Boo hoo you have to spend a day out of your life before making millions of dollars to give NBA teams a better look at you. Go there and just get measured out, people refuse to do certain parts of it all the time. There is no point to not go at all. Show up fat, show up injured, just go. Hell, Anthony Bennett showed up as both and got drafted #1. To me it's like refusing a workout. You aren't Michael Jordan, you aren't better then the combine.

Yes they are. They don't need the combine, so why go?

breakchains · Post #1787 » by **breakchains** » Mon May 12, 2014 4:07 am

It's like top prospects who don't go to the Senior Bowl or throw at the combine. It pisses off the scouts, but in the end, it doesn't really affect anything.

There is a small potential gain here, which is someone performing off the charts at everything and separating himself from the pack of the big 3, but there is probably a better chance that they could underperform in one way or another that could push them down to the bottom of the grouping, or even worse, pushed down beyond that.

Baddy Chuck · Post #1788 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Mon May 12, 2014 4:08 am

ReasonablySober wrote:Yes they are. They don't need the combine, so why go?

Why go to the Senior Bowl? Why go to the NFL combine? Why do a pro day? Why do 98% of players go to the NBA combine? Why even work out for any teams? Nah, they aren't better then the combine. It's something most every player goes to, something every NBA team will be at, something that they should be going to. They don't want to partake in certain events in it so be it, but they should attend. They've been doing things they don't need to do to better their NBA prospects for years and they'll continue to do so for many more years, this shouldn't be any exception.

breakchains · Post #1789 » by **breakchains** » Mon May 12, 2014 4:10 am

I would blow a f*cking gasket if we take Randle anywhere, let alone at #1. :evil:

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breakchains · Post #1790 » by **breakchains** » Mon May 12, 2014 4:19 am

buckboy wrote:
breakchains wrote:Odd that the premise is Parker or Wiggins with the number 1 pick when Embiid is the best prospect of the three IMO. I get that it's more of an apples to apples comparison because both are wing-ish players who have been connected for several years now, but still.

Jesus.

Enough already. You're a really good poster, but the whole stating-Embiid-is-the-best-prospect-like-it's-a-fact thing is really annoying.

Fixed - happy? 8-)

But, it really is dumb to frame a question as "you pick #1, Wiggins or Embiid?" It would have been like asking "you pick #1, Khalil Mack or Greg Robinson?" Either just remove the "you pick #1" qualifier, or include Embiid as an option, because I guarantee you whoever picks #1 will be seriously considering Embiid.

breakchains · Post #1791 » by **breakchains** » Mon May 12, 2014 4:22 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/zachlavine/status/465668945794834432[/tweet]

Looks like LaVine is training with Wiggins. Would be fun to watch.

Aaron It Out · Post #1792 » by **Aaron It Out** » Mon May 12, 2014 4:37 am

When Durant went to the combine he wasn't able to do a single bench press which made a lot of people question if he was strong enough to play in the NBA. Really though we knew how good he was at basketball and he had nothing to gain by doing those drills.

theFireBlanket · Post #1793 » by **theFireBlanket** » Mon May 12, 2014 1:21 pm

breakchains wrote:I would blow a f*cking gasket if we take Randle anywhere, let alone at #1.

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That would be a nightmare pick, reminiscent of Cleveland last year in a way. At least Kyler speculates they could take Exum #1 and that the Bucks are high on Wiggins/Parker. If Randle is 4th on the board and stands to remain then you have to hope they don't slide there next Tuesday.

Post #1794 » by **ReasonablySober** » Mon May 12, 2014 1:23 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:Yes they are. They don't need the combine, so why go?

Why go to the Senior Bowl? Why go to the NFL combine? Why do a pro day? Why do 98% of players go to the NBA combine? Why even work out for any teams? Nah, they aren't better then the combine. It's something most every player goes to, something every NBA team will be at, something that they should be going to. They don't want to partake in certain events in it so be it, but they should attend. They've been doing things they don't need to do to better their NBA prospects for years and they'll continue to do so for many more years, this shouldn't be any exception.

Many of the best players don't do anything at the Senior Bowl or NFL Combine either, so who cares if they show up? They don't need it.

sidney lanier · Post #1795 » by **sidney lanier** » Mon May 12, 2014 1:24 pm

breakchains wrote:I would blow a f*cking gasket if we take Randle anywhere, let alone at #1.

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This Steve Kyler seems strangely insightful. I like the cut of his jib. Not crazy about the beard, though.

I expect Randle to show a few things at the combine that give the lie to the perception that he is nothing but an inside banger who can't play defense. I also expect those alligator arms to stretch out an inch or two over previously reported wingspan readings.

Badgerlander · Post #1796 » by **Badgerlander** » Mon May 12, 2014 1:57 pm

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compar ... ius-randle

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PkrsBcksGphsMqt · Post #1797 » by **PkrsBcksGphsMqt** » Mon May 12, 2014 2:06 pm

8 days, you guys! :pray:

emunney · Post #1798 » by **emunney** » Mon May 12, 2014 2:45 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:Yes they are. They don't need the combine, so why go?

Why go to the Senior Bowl? Why go to the NFL combine? Why do a pro day? Why do 98% of players go to the NBA combine? Why even work out for any teams? Nah, they aren't better then the combine. It's something most every player goes to, something every NBA team will be at, something that they should be going to. They don't want to partake in certain events in it so be it, but they should attend. They've been doing things they don't need to do to better their NBA prospects for years and they'll continue to do so for many more years, this shouldn't be any exception.

The answer to all of your questions is that they do those things to improve their position. It's not a rite of passage. It's an opportunity. If they feel it's more an opportunity for harm than good, why would they do it?

I think it's unusual that they're not attending at all, especially Parker, who has his roots in Chicago anyway, and as a fan I'm a little annoyed that I won't be able to compare them in the biometrics and athletics stuff, but I don't think any of them have more to gain than they have to lose, and I don't blame them for not messing with it. It's safe to not do it.

Badgerlander · Post #1799 » by **Badgerlander** » Mon May 12, 2014 2:48 pm

be interesting if Exum puts on a combine performance like Lillard did

SupremeHustle · Post #1800 » by **SupremeHustle** » Mon May 12, 2014 2:52 pm

breakchains wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/zachlavine/status/465668945794834432[/tweet]

Looks like LaVine is training with Wiggins. Would be fun to watch.

The fact that he wrote "wit" instead of "with" just bumped him out of my top ten.

Who's your pick?