Official Summer 2024 Magic Free Agency and Trade Ideas Thread 4.0

[Skybox]

Ready to get beat in the second round.

So?

I'm an idiot

Chin up - This is NOTHING like my Poole moment...nobody saw MIN winning the first 2 in DEN. It's amazing

[basketballRob]

So?

I'm an idiot

Chin up - This is NOTHING like my Poole moment...nobody saw MIN winning the first 2 in DEN. It's amazing

Our 2025 Denver pick is starting to look better. Denver could look to shake things up next season. KCP has disappointed me in the playoffs, and I no longer want him. I hope he doesn't make the first team all defense over Suggs.

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[byeganyo]

Ready to get beat in the second round.

So?

I'm an idiot

No, of course, but really, the cream alwyas rises to the top, if you have good players, they are not too young to compete, i think only the old age can be a legitimate excuse. unfortunately

[byeganyo]

I'm an idiot

Chin up - This is NOTHING like my Poole moment...nobody saw MIN winning the first 2 in DEN. It's amazing

Our 2025 Denver pick is starting to look better. Denver could look to shake things up next season. KCP has disappointed me in the playoffs, and I no longer want him. I hope he doesn't make the first team all defense over Suggs.

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If Jokic is healthy they remain a contender in 2025, but maybe wont compete hard in the RS, so the pick lands around 22 or something like this. And these series are not over of course... i can not imagine this Nuggets team losing 4 in a row, so they should ge back to Denver with 1-3 result at worst.

[pepe1991]

Chin up - This is NOTHING like my Poole moment...nobody saw MIN winning the first 2 in DEN. It's amazing

Our 2025 Denver pick is starting to look better. Denver could look to shake things up next season. KCP has disappointed me in the playoffs, and I no longer want him. I hope he doesn't make the first team all defense over Suggs.

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If Jokic is healthy they remain a contender in 2025, but maybe wont compete hard in the RS, so the pick lands around 22 or something like this. And these series are not over of course... i can not imagine this Nuggets team losing 4 in a row, so they should ge back to Denver with 1-3 result at worst.

If you look past 7 years, Nuggets never won less than 46 games. By default, they will always win enough to get at least in playin, as long as they have best player, and get into playoffs.

They have 4 starters locked for next year so they aren't going anywhere. You can argue that Nuggets mistake was not going hard for 1# spot . They had 1# secured up until 81th game and 1 point loss to damn Spurs. If they won first spot they would have Pelicans in first round, Dallas in second. Instad Lakers , Wovles are way harder path.

[basketballRob]

Our 2025 Denver pick is starting to look better. Denver could look to shake things up next season. KCP has disappointed me in the playoffs, and I no longer want him. I hope he doesn't make the first team all defense over Suggs.

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If Jokic is healthy they remain a contender in 2025, but maybe wont compete hard in the RS, so the pick lands around 22 or something like this. And these series are not over of course... i can not imagine this Nuggets team losing 4 in a row, so they should ge back to Denver with 1-3 result at worst.

If you look past 7 years, Nuggets never won less than 46 games. By default, they will always win enough to get at least in playin, as long as they have best player, and get into playoffs.

They have 4 starters locked for next year so they aren't going anywhere. You can argue that Nuggets mistake was not going hard for 1# spot . They had 1# secured up until 81th game and 1 point loss to damn Spurs. If they won first spot they would have Pelicans in first round, Dallas in second. Instad Lakers , Wovles are way harder path.

It could be a year that MPJ and Murray are out again. All 4 of those starters are going to have a lot of miles on them. Murray has knee problems, and MPJ has back problems.

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[pepe1991]

If Jokic is healthy they remain a contender in 2025, but maybe wont compete hard in the RS, so the pick lands around 22 or something like this. And these series are not over of course... i can not imagine this Nuggets team losing 4 in a row, so they should ge back to Denver with 1-3 result at worst.

If you look past 7 years, Nuggets never won less than 46 games. By default, they will always win enough to get at least in playin, as long as they have best player, and get into playoffs.

They have 4 starters locked for next year so they aren't going anywhere. You can argue that Nuggets mistake was not going hard for 1# spot . They had 1# secured up until 81th game and 1 point loss to damn Spurs. If they won first spot they would have Pelicans in first round, Dallas in second. Instad Lakers , Wovles are way harder path.

It could be a year that MPJ and Murray are out again. All 4 of those starters are going to have a lot of miles on them. Murray has knee problems, and MPJ has back problems.

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Injury speculations about season in advance, while everybody is healthy and in mid 20s... Yea.. i'm not going down that road.

[RichCollab]

Ready to get beat in the second round.

So?

I'm an idiot

It’s cool dude.

[bigdogdylan5]

The Magic were #22 in offensive rating.

#15 in eFG%
#25 in TOV%
#7 in ORB%
#2 in FT/FGA

There's plenty of evidence that passing and play making is indeed our number one priority. The framework of a good offense is there. We just need to cut down on turnovers.

The Magic absolutely need to take and make more threes next year, but a huge part of their struggles this past season can simply be boiled down to Paolo and Franz leading the team in shots while not being very good at threes.

The rest of the team not named Paolo and Franz shot 36.6% from 3PT. 36.6% would jump the Magic from 24th in the league to 16th in the league in 3PT%.

The bigger issue offensively is the lack of passing and ball movement combined with the high number of turnovers.

This 100x. Everyone wants shooters or some scoring guard I just don’t see that as a good path forward. What they desperately need is a pg similar to fultz but can and is not afraid to shoot open shots off Paolo and Franz drives. In the playoffs we were basically relying on 3 young guys none of which are true point guards to run the offense. Paolo is excellent but even with him being great he is not ready to be the lead ball handler of a top 15 offense. Franz and Suggs are the same way. Now I think they hope Black can take that over but for now they will need a bridge. Tyus Jones would not be bad for that. I don’t know who is out there but you almost need experience. Can you bring in a Chris Paul for a 1 year deal? You need that someone that brings what Mike Conley does for the wolves. Just someone that can take the reins on the offense and set Paolo and Franz up. Franz is an amazing cutter but I felt we needed him on ball so much that we didn’t use that strength.

Shooters are some of the most expensive things to pay for in FA. You have drafted two shooters that are incredibly young I would want to give them a chance.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

The Magic were #22 in offensive rating.

#15 in eFG%
#25 in TOV%
#7 in ORB%
#2 in FT/FGA

There's plenty of evidence that passing and play making is indeed our number one priority. The framework of a good offense is there. We just need to cut down on turnovers.

The Magic absolutely need to take and make more threes next year, but a huge part of their struggles this past season can simply be boiled down to Paolo and Franz leading the team in shots while not being very good at threes.

The rest of the team not named Paolo and Franz shot 36.6% from 3PT. 36.6% would jump the Magic from 24th in the league to 16th in the league in 3PT%.

The bigger issue offensively is the lack of passing and ball movement combined with the high number of turnovers.

This 100x. Everyone wants shooters or some scoring guard I just don’t see that as a good path forward. What they desperately need is a pg similar to fultz but can and is not afraid to shoot open shots off Paolo and Franz drives. In the playoffs we were basically relying on 3 young guys none of which are true point guards to run the offense. Paolo is excellent but even with him being great he is not ready to be the lead ball handler of a top 15 offense. Franz and Suggs are the same way. Now I think they hope Black can take that over but for now they will need a bridge. Tyus Jones would not be bad for that. I don’t know who is out there but you almost need experience. Can you bring in a Chris Paul for a 1 year deal? You need that someone that brings what Mike Conley does for the wolves. Just someone that can take the reins on the offense and set Paolo and Franz up. Franz is an amazing cutter but I felt we needed him on ball so much that we didn’t use that strength.

Shooters are some of the most expensive things to pay for in FA. You have drafted two shooters that are incredibly young I would want to give them a chance.

One of the main reasons why I am banging the Tyus Jones can. He's not going to command 20+ a year and he's proven he can do the **** job. People say oh man if only Fultz could shoot than xyz..

Well that player is Tyus Jones, he's not going to take 15 shots but he can hit open 3's and run an offense. Some nights he can absolutely heat up but you know he's going to do the job he's meant to do and not force it.

Tyus Jones, Front load an offer to Claxton, and then move WCJ and our 2024 pick for someone like Kennard or a bench shooting guard.

[axl_c_cool]

Problem with trading for Murray is that the Hawks know the Magic could really use him. Barrel = over. Not sure what ORL can do about that.

Put Isaac + 3 FRP including Denver, if they ask for more offer Cole Antony and walk away if they say no.

People have said WCJ, but I think he’s to valuable to the core and what we do.

They get 3 picks, cap relief, and a scoring guard to back up Trey Young


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[basketballRob]

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[fendilim]

Problem with trading for Murray is that the Hawks know the Magic could really use him. Barrel = over. Not sure what ORL can do about that.

Put Isaac + 3 FRP including Denver, if they ask for more offer Cole Antony and walk away if they say no.

People have said WCJ, but I think he’s to valuable to the core and what we do.

They get 3 picks, cap relief, and a scoring guard to back up Trey Young


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i’d put WCJ and get one of their bigs.

[Knightro]

If I had to guess today...

Harris, Fultz, Okeke are all allowed to walk in free agency and Ingles' option is declined.

Franz extended 5/175 and Suggs extended 4/100.

Klay signs 3/100 with the third year a team option (aka 2/65) so his money comes off the books before Paolo's kicks in.

Magic don't trade anybody else.

G: Suggs, Anthony
G: Thompson, Black
F: F. Wagner, Howard
F: Banchero, Isaac
C: Carter, M. Wagner

[KillMonger]

If I had to guess today...

Harris, Fultz, Okeke are all allowed to walk in free agency and Ingles' option is declined.

Franz extended 5/175 and Suggs extended 4/100.

Klay signs 3/100 with the third year a team option (aka 2/65) so his money comes off the books before Paolo's kicks in.

Magic don't trade anybody else.

G: Suggs, Anthony
G: Thompson, Black
F: F. Wagner, Howard
F: Banchero, Isaac
C: Carter, M. Wagner

so suggs as point guard......not loving that if i'm being honest

[Knightro]

so suggs as point guard......not loving that if i'm being honest

Not really. At least not in the traditional sense.

It would be Paolo and Franz as the defacto point guards again like it was most of this season.

[Viper1500]

Honest question, what does Klay do better than Tyus Jones? And Tyus would be like 1/2 the cost too

[Magicman125]

If I had to guess today...

Harris, Fultz, Okeke are all allowed to walk in free agency and Ingles' option is declined.

Franz extended 5/175 and Suggs extended 4/100.

Klay signs 3/100 with the third year a team option (aka 2/65) so his money comes off the books before Paolo's kicks in.

Magic don't trade anybody else.

G: Suggs, Anthony
G: Thompson, Black
F: F. Wagner, Howard
F: Banchero, Isaac
C: Carter, M. Wagner

Sounds good to me. I like the idea of trying to pry Hartenstein away from NYK as well too though as WCJ has a lot of injury history and always seems to miss at least 20 games and has just been pretty inconsistent for us this year.

[bigdogdylan5]

This **** is maddening
https://youtu.be/UmfrTvDAFAM?si=76yeyKLUkpuqd6AP

Beck at the end was like it’s time to hit the gas while simultaneously saying there are no obvious great options. This is the same line some of you take on this forum. Do you know what that gets you? Ibaka for Oladipo and Sabonis or Harris for Jennings and Earson what’s his face. He mentions hanging on to Vuc as indecision while they built up his value and maybe made the best trade in Magic history when it materialized.

I want them to be able to hit the gas and continue to accelerate this puppy too but not off a cliff. And some of you that despise this front office will be first in line to take shots at them if they do make aggressive moves and it doesn’t work out. We gotta be smart and make thought out long term decision and it has to make sense.

[eyriq]

If I had to guess today...

Harris, Fultz, Okeke are all allowed to walk in free agency and Ingles' option is declined.

Franz extended 5/175 and Suggs extended 4/100.

Klay signs 3/100 with the third year a team option (aka 2/65) so his money comes off the books before Paolo's kicks in.

Magic don't trade anybody else.

G: Suggs, Anthony
G: Thompson, Black
F: F. Wagner, Howard
F: Banchero, Isaac
C: Carter, M. Wagner

Love it