Ryan Anderson Playing Disappearing Act: Is It Good For Us

[arkknight1988]

Ryan Anderson continues to be a playoffs no-show

The question was whether Anderson finally would show up against the Pacers, preferably on Wednesday night.

The answer: Still missing.

In mysterious disappearances, Ryan is now listed with Ameila Earhart, D.B. Cooper, Jimmy Hoffa and Charlie Sheen's career.

Here's all you need to know about the Magic's Game 3 scoring plight: Their second-leading scorer — the league's 3-point champ — had zero points, one rebound and four fouls heading into the final period.

He finished with seven points, all meaningless as the Pacers led by fill-in-the-blank

Before the game, Anderson was upbeat in chatting with DeVos. He will be a restricted free agent after this summer. The Magic can match any offer sheet from another team.

Expect them to keep Anderson, even at a high cost , protecting an asset they can trade later if need be.

"This is your home," DeVos said. "We don't want you going anywhere."

"I love it here," Anderson said, nodding.

So far this series, his market value is tumbling

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/201 ... on-rockets

they say teams take on the personality of their city. we are becoming more like disney world everyday...SOFT

[eyriq]

Max money for franchise guys, 12-14 million for elite players, 8-10 million for studs, and mle for starters and then scale it down to finish out a rotation #eyriqonomics

I'd put Ryan in the 8-10 million range. Anything more and we risking too much on him developing a go-to game so we'd need to SnT, anything less and we are getting a steal of a deal.

[magicman123]

8-10mil is a mistake, we cant keep making mistakes, you dont give a player 10mil that cant create his own shot...it so bad otis will do it

[eyriq]

8-10mil is a mistake, we cant keep making mistakes, you dont give a player 10mil that cant create his own shot...it so bad otis will do it

I think it comes down to what makes an offense good and how you distribute value. Shot creation is important, and ultimately an offense is about creating shots. Ultimately it is a team game, so the system as a whole works together to create the best shots possible. Ryan stretching the floor is a variable that goes into shot creating, as is his offensive rebounding and low turnovers. His high percentage shooting is a variable that goes into how good the shots created actually are. Is that the most important piece of the puzzle? No, which is why he isn't a max guy. Is he good enough to be the second most important piece to the puzzle? On offense I think so but he lacks the all around game IMO, so I move him down another tier. Creating your own shot is just another variable in the sea of variables that goes into good offense, and Anderson's lack there is more than made up for in other areas IMO.

[mhectorgato]

8-10mil is a mistake, we cant keep making mistakes, you dont give a player 10mil that cant create his own shot...it so bad otis will do it

I think it comes down to what makes an offense good and how you distribute value. Shot creation is important, and ultimately an offense is about creating shots. Ultimately it is a team game, so the system as a whole works together to create the best shots possible. Ryan stretching the floor is a variable that goes into shot creating, as is his offensive rebounding and low turnovers. His high percentage shooting is a variable that goes into how good the shots created actually are. Is that the most important piece of the puzzle? No, which is why he isn't a max guy. Is he good enough to be the second most important piece to the puzzle? On offense I think so but he lacks the all around game IMO, so I move him down another tier. Creating your own shot is just another variable in the sea of variables that goes into good offense, and Anderson's lack there is more than made up for in other areas IMO.

No question he adds value to our offense.

But how difficult would it be to replace what Ryan brings?

That's what is a good way to define value. I don't think that what Ryan brings is so unique to put him into that level of cap space impact.

[thelead]

Ryan plays zero d. Thats enough for me to not pay him more than 4 mil with how inconsistent he is on offense.

[magicman123]

news flash, this offense isn't that good, Ryan's sea of variables is submerged when it matters most

[toquito]

Ryan Anderson continues to be a playoffs no-show

The question was whether Anderson finally would show up against the Pacers, preferably on Wednesday night.

The answer: Still missing.

In mysterious disappearances, Ryan is now listed with Ameila Earhart, D.B. Cooper, Jimmy Hoffa and Charlie Sheen's career.

Here's all you need to know about the Magic's Game 3 scoring plight: Their second-leading scorer — the league's 3-point champ — had zero points, one rebound and four fouls heading into the final period.

He finished with seven points, all meaningless as the Pacers led by fill-in-the-blank

Before the game, Anderson was upbeat in chatting with DeVos. He will be a restricted free agent after this summer. The Magic can match any offer sheet from another team.

Expect them to keep Anderson, even at a high cost , protecting an asset they can trade later if need be.

"This is your home," DeVos said. "We don't want you going anywhere."

"I love it here," Anderson said, nodding.

So far this series, his market value is tumbling

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/201 ... on-rockets

they say teams take on the personality of their city. we are becoming more like disney world everyday...SOFT

exactly. were the mickey mouse of the nba

[ORLMagicGirl15]

There is nothing good about a player disappearing when a team is counting on him.

If it saves us from severely overpaying, so be it.

Why would we want to resign someone we know is not dependable come playoff time?

[magicman123]

There is nothing good about a player disappearing when a team is counting on him.

If it saves us from severely overpaying, so be it.

Why would we want to resign someone we know is not dependable come playoff time?

[WeAreVenom]

Ryan Anderson continues to be a playoffs no-show

The question was whether Anderson finally would show up against the Pacers, preferably on Wednesday night.

The answer: Still missing.

In mysterious disappearances, Ryan is now listed with Ameila Earhart, D.B. Cooper, Jimmy Hoffa and Charlie Sheen's career.

Here's all you need to know about the Magic's Game 3 scoring plight: Their second-leading scorer — the league's 3-point champ — had zero points, one rebound and four fouls heading into the final period.

He finished with seven points, all meaningless as the Pacers led by fill-in-the-blank

Before the game, Anderson was upbeat in chatting with DeVos. He will be a restricted free agent after this summer. The Magic can match any offer sheet from another team.

Expect them to keep Anderson, even at a high cost , protecting an asset they can trade later if need be.

"This is your home," DeVos said. "We don't want you going anywhere."

"I love it here," Anderson said, nodding.

So far this series, his market value is tumbling

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/201 ... on-rockets

they say teams take on the personality of their city. we are becoming more like disney world everyday...SOFT

exactly. were the mickey mouse of the nba

LOL, my friend (who is a Heat fan, but has been one for a VERY long time), calls us "The Mickey Mouse Club".

Worst part is, he's so right.

[The Real Dalic]

I leave this board only to come back and hear the biggest bad news I've heard since Dwight requested a trade. . . We actually like being in cap hell and overpaying scrubs that disappear in the playoffs don't we. . . Ryan either better turn into the next Dirk Nowitzki (unbelievably unlikely, he won't come close to even a player like Al Jeff), or, he better sign a small short term deal that won't hurt our chances of bringing in an actual player like Smoove (also unlikely, because our GM is Otis Smith). . .

[OrlChamps2030]

There is nothing good about a player disappearing when a team is counting on him.

If it saves us from severely overpaying, so be it.

Why would we want to resign someone we know is not dependable come playoff time?

With Ryan on a 4-5 mill deal, we would be freeing up space to sign other players while having a solid role player in Ryan.

With these potentially new players we would not have to depend on Ryan. Depending on Ryan is where we went wrong in the first place. Ryan not stepping up is both a testament to the team's flaws, and his own.

[drsd]

With Ryan on a 4-5 mill deal ....

On the open market Anderson will command a lot more than that.

[MagicMadness]

With Ryan on a 4-5 mill deal ....

On the open market Anderson will command a lot more than that.

Definitely possible. And if he does, the Magic have to let him walk or find a way to get creative with the financial mess our GM has put us in. Howard is too important to take a risk with yet another jump-shooter who doesn't create on his own.

Again, I like Anderson and want him on the roster. Basically, the money that guys like J-Rich and Duhon are making is the money that should go into signing Anderson. But Otis Smith screwed that up.

[Reverse_Angle]

If Ryno gets more than a 26/4 type of deal based solely on performance, NBA deserve to lose money.

Does not matter how you slice it. At the end of the day, he is a 23 year old PF with worse defense than 34 year old Hedo. He has limited athleticism and he is not long. He has zero feel for the post game and he rarely finishes down low unless he is spoon fed. He does not have high BBIQ to compensate for his shortcomings.

Aside from his technical deficiencies, he has glaring character flaws as well. When his shot is taken away, he loses concentration and disappears. He gets punked by undersized PFs easily, which means us not being able to take advantage of this match-up weakness. He does not even rebound under pressure, one thing he should be doing if anything goes south. Offensive mentality gets the best of him.

The ONLY thing he has going for himself other than hitting high percentage 3s and rebounding during the regular season is that he is VERY marketable. I can see a team like Toronto, Washington or New Orleans overpaying him to attract more fans.

[Orlando Dawg]

2 words: Andres Nocioni

[magicman123]

With Ryan on a 4-5 mill deal ....

On the open market Anderson will command a lot more than that.

Definitely possible. And if he does, the Magic have to let him walk or find a way to get creative with the financial mess our GM has put us in. Howard is too important to take a risk with yet another jump-shooter who doesn't create on his own.

Again, I like Anderson and want him on the roster. Basically, the money that guys like J-Rich and Duhon are making is the money that should go into signing Anderson. But Otis Smith screwed that up.

Yep, let him walk

[Potterman]

2 words: Andres Nocioni

Who?

[OrlChamps2030]

With Ryan on a 4-5 mill deal ....

On the open market Anderson will command a lot more than that.

With the way he is playing now, no one knows how much he will "command". I would say see ya, if any team offers him over 6.5/per.

It's all speculation, but Ryan may have played his way out of a nice contract because:

1. He is disappearing in the playoffs (again)

2. He is disappearing without Dwight

Someone else posted a tweet from Schmitz earlier, and he confirmed what I am saying by claiming that teams are looked at Ryan, and he has sent his stock tumbling.

We will have to wait and see.