Discussing Other Teams' Moves Part 2

[Severn Hoos]

So I guess the question is, are we better off with Ryan Anderson for 4 years, $36M; or would we rather have Booker + Okafor + Ariza through 2014? (Bear in mind that under the Ryan Anderson scenario, we would project to have about $8M in cap room next season assuming Lewis was bought out and Blatche was amnestied next summer. As it stands now, we will have no cap room.)

Assuming no Okafor trade, a Booker for Anderson swap, and the utilization of our 2nd round picks on Q.Miller and Marcus Denmon, our lineup would look like this:

PG Wall/???
SG Beal/Crawford/Denmon
SF Singleton/Q.Miller
PF R.Anderson/J.Vesely
C Nene/Seraphin/Blatche

Still very weak at SF, but the rest of the lineup is very good, and complimentary to Wall. And Quincy Miller at least has the upside potential to be an impact player down the road. SF could also be addressed next year through the draft or with the upcoming $8M in cap room.

Well, I consider Ilyasova a better player than Anderson, so I'd rather see that same lineup with him at PF. And in theory, we could have signed him outright (although as has been pointed out, he would probably cost more than Anderson - can't believe I'm typing that!), meaning Booker would still be available to put in the lineup or use in a trade for a SF.

I do wonder what impact it would have on Seraphin & Vesely. They haven't completely proven they deserve to be primary starters, but we obviously hope they will get there. That said, with Nene & Anderson in place for 4 years each, it may mean putting those guys on the back burner for now.

[nate33]

Nate, how would we only have $8M in cap room next summer if Lewis is off the books AND Blatche were to be amnestied?

Because we're paying Anderson $9M.

Our cap situation would look something like this next year:
Nene: $13M
Anderson: $9M
Wall: $7.4M
Beal: $4.6M
Vesely: $3.3M
Seraphin: $2.7M
Crawford: $2.2M
C.Singleton: $1.6M
2013 1st: $2.5M
2 minimum salary roster fillers: $1M

Total: $47.3M

Technically, we could cut C.Singleton and Jordan Crawford, replacing them with $500K cap holds to clear up another $2.5M or so.

[fishercob]

Thanks Nathaniel. The Anderson trade may have been better than the OkaRiza trade. Maybe not. But what your post above drives home for me is that our team's potential is wrapped up almost wholly in the development of Wall and Beal, and secondarily Vesely and Seraphin (then Booker and Singleton). If Wall and Beal turn into great players, the OkaRiza trade won't hurt us long term. If they don't, making the Anderson deal wouldn't have made much of a difference in the long run either.

That is somewhat comforting.

[GhostsOfGil]

@EthanJSkolnick: Hearing that the Heat left meeting with Rashard Lewis confident that he'll come aboard

O now he can play? Thanks for riding the bench for 22 mill, Reshard.

[montestewart]

@EthanJSkolnick: Hearing that the Heat left meeting with Rashard Lewis confident that he'll come aboard

O now he can play? Thanks for riding the bench for 22 mill, Reshard.

Let's see how LeBJ likes watching Rashard dribble off his own foot or pass to some lady in row C.

[Rafael122]

Proposed Magic-Cavs-Nets deal:

Nets get:
Dwight Howard
Earl Clark
Jason Richardson

Cavs get:
Kris Humphries
Sundiata Gaines
Quentin Richardson
$3 million
1st round pick

Magic get:
Shelden Williams
Brook Lopez
Damion James
Luke Walton
3 1st round picks

Absolutely horrific deal for Cleveland and Orlando.

[closg00]

ROFL...Who would have thought that the Nets would be a destination anyone would want to go to? This is why I hate the loser mentality we have here in DC pertaining to free agency.

"No one wants to come here, even if we have capspace."

Yet, the Brooklyn Nets, who stunk last year, are getting Dwight Howard to add to Joe Johnson, Gerald Wallace, and Deron Williams. They literally went from one of the worst records in NBA history to fielding a great team on paper, while in that same timespan, the Wizards are adding unwanted losers like Ariza and Okafor.

The difference between the two team? One has an owner and a FO that's willing to take calculated risks. The Wizards, OTOH, are ran by two guys who'd prefer to sell tix than win games.

This FO and franchise in general is a joke.

THIS.

Nice. Ted dropped $20 million on his McLean manse, but couldn't be bothered with two unguaranteed 2nd round draft picks. That or Ernie was too-cheap/lazy.

[closg00]

@EthanJSkolnick: Hearing that the Heat left meeting with Rashard Lewis confident that he'll come aboard

O now he can play? Thanks for riding the bench for 22 mill, Reshard.

Let's see how LeBJ likes watching Rashard dribble off his own foot or pass to some lady in row C.

WHY? WHY? WHY? OTOH, I hope he does sign with them and drags them down

[Mel Proctor]

If this is the proposed 4-way, as reported on ESPN, why on earth would Orlando do it?

According to sources the Nets would receive [Dwight] Howard, Jason Richardson, Chris Duhon and Earl Clark in the proposed deal. The Magic would get Brook Lopez in a sign-and-trade, Luke Walton, Damion James, Shelden Williams, Armon Johnson and three first-round picks -- two from the Nets and a lottery protected first from the Clippers. The Cavs would get Kris Humphries in a sign-and-trade, Quentin Richardson, Sundiata Gaines, a first round pick from the Nets and three million in cash. The Clippers would receive MarShon Brooks.

If I were Orlando, I would tell Howard to either play for us, or stay at home. Let's see what his value is on the open market after sitting out a year. What an incredible jerk.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

ROFL...Who would have thought that the Nets would be a destination anyone would want to go to? This is why I hate the loser mentality we have here in DC pertaining to free agency.

"No one wants to come here, even if we have capspace."

Yet, the Brooklyn Nets, who stunk last year, are getting Dwight Howard to add to Joe Johnson, Gerald Wallace, and Deron Williams. They literally went from one of the worst records in NBA history to fielding a great team on paper, while in that same timespan, the Wizards are adding unwanted losers like Ariza and Okafor.

The difference between the two team? One has an owner and a FO that's willing to take calculated risks. The Wizards, OTOH, are ran by two guys who'd prefer to sell tix than win games.

This FO and franchise in general is a joke.

THIS.

Nice. Ted dropped $20 million on his McLean manse, but couldn't be bothered with two unguaranteed 2nd round draft picks. That or Ernie was too-cheap/lazy.

As someone said a couple days ago, the Wizards can be penny wise and pound foolish.

[Rafael122]

If this is the proposed 4-way, as reported on ESPN, why on earth would Orlando do it?

According to sources the Nets would receive [Dwight] Howard, Jason Richardson, Chris Duhon and Earl Clark in the proposed deal. The Magic would get Brook Lopez in a sign-and-trade, Luke Walton, Damion James, Shelden Williams, Armon Johnson and three first-round picks -- two from the Nets and a lottery protected first from the Clippers. The Cavs would get Kris Humphries in a sign-and-trade, Quentin Richardson, Sundiata Gaines, a first round pick from the Nets and three million in cash. The Clippers would receive MarShon Brooks.

If I were Orlando, I would tell Howard to either play for us, or stay at home. Let's see what his value is on the open market after sitting out a year. What an incredible jerk.

They are getting rid of Richardsons contract, as well as Duhon's and Quentin's contracts.

Only contracts on the book for next year are Hedo's, Lopez, Glen Davis, Nelson, and their rookies. And Hedo's deal would be an expiring one.

They are going to be terrible, and will probably have at least 2 1st round draft picks in each draft for the next 3-4 years.

[Doctor Bombay]

If this is the proposed 4-way, as reported on ESPN, why on earth would Orlando do it?

According to sources the Nets would receive [Dwight] Howard, Jason Richardson, Chris Duhon and Earl Clark in the proposed deal. The Magic would get Brook Lopez in a sign-and-trade, Luke Walton, Damion James, Shelden Williams, Armon Johnson and three first-round picks -- two from the Nets and a lottery protected first from the Clippers. The Cavs would get Kris Humphries in a sign-and-trade, Quentin Richardson, Sundiata Gaines, a first round pick from the Nets and three million in cash. The Clippers would receive MarShon Brooks.

If I were Orlando, I would tell Howard to either play for us, or stay at home. Let's see what his value is on the open market after sitting out a year. What an incredible jerk.

They are getting rid of Richardsons contract, as well as Duhon's and Quentin's contracts.

Only contracts on the book for next year are Hedo's, Lopez, Glen Davis, Nelson, and their rookies. And Hedo's deal would be an expiring one.

They are going to be terrible, and will probably have at least 2 1st round draft picks in each draft for the next 3-4 years.

If Houston is still willing to trade for Howard without assurance that he'll resign, couldn't they offer a better package? Unless I missed something and Morey changed his mind.

[fishercob]

Morey may be brilliant. But you'd have to say he's lost some of his luster. Unless Houston shocks the NBA again and flirts with a playoff spot this year, they're going to have very little to show for their pursuits over the past few years. Actually, that would suck for them -- they're much better off going 19-63 than they would be 38-44.

[Doctor Bombay]

Morey may be brilliant. But you'd have to say he's lost some of his luster. Unless Houston shocks the NBA again and flirts with a playoff spot this year, they're going to have very little to show for their pursuits over the past few years. Actually, that would suck for them -- they're much better off going 19-63 than they would be 38-44.

It seems like they're still in decent position for the theoretical "consolidation of assets." Into whom they'll actually be able to consolidate, I have no idea.

[fishercob]

Morey may be brilliant. But you'd have to say he's lost some of his luster. Unless Houston shocks the NBA again and flirts with a playoff spot this year, they're going to have very little to show for their pursuits over the past few years. Actually, that would suck for them -- they're much better off going 19-63 than they would be 38-44.

It seems like they're still in decent position for the theoretical "consolidation of assets." Into whom they'll actually be able to consolidate, I have no idea.

But are they? They have a lot of mid-level prospects. No one is going to trade a stud so they can rebuild with Terrence Jones or Chandler Parsons.

I suppose they are positioned to trade for an overpriced good player like Rudy Gay (wouldn't that be ironic?) or Iguodala. But they're starless -- certainly nowhere close to a "Big 3".

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Interesting to see that Roy Hibbert getting $58M. I think that is too much for him.

He's not that much better than McGee or DeAndre Jordan IMO.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Over the years I posted about Steve Novak. Some people said he couldn't play and they wouldn't want him on the Wizards.

Funny, but now he's signed for 15M over the next 4 years with the Knicks.

[fishercob]

Over the years I posted about Steve Novak. Some people said he couldn't play and they wouldn't want him on the Wizards.

Funny, but now he's signed for 15M over the next 4 years with the Knicks.

Good for Novak. Signing with the Knicks doesn't make him any better or worse, though CCJ.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

You can't get any better than #1 in the NBA in three point shooting. He shot .472 from 3PT. That is like 70% eFG. The Wizards could really use him.

His WS/48 and PER were well above average, too.

Novak is as effective as someone like Mike Miller these days.

[TGW]

Jason Thompson resigned with the Kings for about $6 mil/year. He would have been as good as Okafor for half the price. Oh well.