Chris Mannix: Hawks looking to trade Teague or Schroder

[pelifan]

Trying to send Teague to a contender and giving Hawks pieces that make sense.

Teague, THJ for Payne, McGary, Morrow, Novak.

[King Ken]

Trying to send Teague to a contender and giving Hawks pieces that make sense.

Teague, THJ for Payne, McGary, Morrow, Novak.

We aren't rebuilding. 100% no.

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[Andre Roberstan]

Trying to send Teague to a contender and giving Hawks pieces that make sense.

Teague, THJ for Payne, McGary, Morrow, Novak.

Why would we do this? Teague is good, but we have no need of a PG.

[pelifan]

Trying to send Teague to a contender and giving Hawks pieces that make sense.

Teague, THJ for Payne, McGary, Morrow, Novak.

Why would we do this? Teague is good, but we have no need of a PG.

That's such a narrow minded way of thinking.

[King Ken]

Trying to send Teague to a contender and giving Hawks pieces that make sense.

Teague, THJ for Payne, McGary, Morrow, Novak.

Why would we do this? Teague is good, but we have no need of a PG.

Makes no sense for either team really.

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[Reign23]

Teague for O'Quinn, Grant OR Galloway, Dwill OR Lance Thomas (depends on the hawks need for offense/defense) 2017 second round pick from houston and 2019 second round pick from cleveland

[pelifan]

Trying to send Teague to a contender and giving Hawks pieces that make sense.

Teague, THJ for Payne, McGary, Morrow, Novak.

Why would we do this? Teague is good, but we have no need of a PG.

Makes no sense for either team really.

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agree to disagree.

[hcsilla]

Teague for Calderon, Grant, 2018 top10 protected 1st rounder.

[ThatBoyNick]

Perhaps Ariza from Hou?

Yes but does it make sense for Houston? No. Ariza is needed for them

Its a good move value wise, the contracts match up, Rockets need a starting PG.

I'm a Rockets fan and I wouldn't mind an Ariza for Teague swap, because we could always do another trade for a starting SF.

We would have Beverley, Jones, Motiejunas, Harrell, Dekker, KJ etc to find a SF with.

[King Ken]

Perhaps Ariza from Hou?

Yes but does it make sense for Houston? No. Ariza is needed for them

Its a good move value wise, the contracts match up, Rockets need a starting PG.

I'm a Rockets fan and I wouldn't mind an Ariza for Teague swap, because we could always do another trade for a starting SF.

We would have Beverley, Jones, Motiejunas, Harrell, Dekker, KJ etc to find a SF with.

You would but Morey won't. He values Ariza a lot as would I. A lot.

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[Ball4life32]

Is Atlanta trying to trade Teague to upgrade their team this year or to better position themselves in the future.

A little bit of both is my guess. As much as Hawks fans like to say Kent Bazemore is as good as DeMarre Carroll, I'm guessing they'd like to have a bigger wing on the team with some long-term promise.

I think Bazemore is more of a 2guard and could be the future there. He's just too undersized for the 3.

[King Ken]

Is Atlanta trying to trade Teague to upgrade their team this year or to better position themselves in the future.

A little bit of both is my guess. As much as Hawks fans like to say Kent Bazemore is as good as DeMarre Carroll, I'm guessing they'd like to have a bigger wing on the team with some long-term promise.

I think Bazemore is more of a 2guard and could be the future there. He's just too undersized for the 3.

He's a SG, a starting one so we got us another one. That's why I keep saying, we only have one potential need or need and its the same position.

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[inquisitive]

Bev and TJones for Teague...salaries are close enough

[melo mvp 15]

The Knicks seem like one of the few teams in the league that could really use Teague because of how much of an upgrade he'd be at the PG spot. Most other teams he'd either be a back up or only a minor upgrade because the PG position is stacked in this league.

I would love to get him to NY because not only do we desperately need a PG, but his contract is perfect for us. It's small enough that we can still be players for some 2016 FAs and expires in 2017 so we can chase the big name PG all stars. Of course acquiring Teague would make moving Jose a priority (assuming he's not included in a Teague deal). And obviously from a basketball perspective, we definitely need a PG who can push the pace and balances scoring/playmaking like him.

The obvious problem is that NY and Atlanta are pretty bad trade partners. If it was another team, I think a Grant, Seraphin, Lou and 2nd round pick offer for Teague would be fair.... but I really doubt Atlanta values Grant that highly since they traded his rights for THJ. Grant has shown flashes of basically everything Teague is already good at (penetrating and court vision), but he's obviously still a prospect. He was just drafted 19th and I think it's more than fair to still value him as a first rounder (I'd argue, if anything, he's more valuable). So would a third team want Grant for maybe a first rounder or another young player? Maybe.

If Grant isn't the guy traded, you can obviously think of trades like O'Quinn, Galloway, and Lou for Teague. Lance and Jose for Teague. The value is there IMO... it just comes down to whether or not A) is NY willing to part with certain guys (specifically Galloway and/or Lance)? B) does ATL even value those guys? C) how set is Atlanta on trading one of their PGs? if they're set, does it have to be Teague? D) what are Atlanta's other offers?

[Ball4life32]

Again, what would you consider fair value for Teague in a trade with Milwaukee?

Middleton has more value than Jeff due to his position and play this season. He's been a professional scorer and I would not trade him if I am Milwaukee. He is one of them.

Giannis is a franchise talent. Jeff is better than him and an All Star but no, just no. He's proven to be special. He's still raw. I see him like I see Dennis. Where you have to watch them play to know they have franchise talent. He's another one.

Parker. I am not a fan of his now. I think he has a way to go. I don't like him at PF but that's the only position open. I think he's raw and metric is not impressive in his first two seasons. I don't like his potential in Milwaukee. He's has potential in our system. I don't see franchise player but I think he could be very good for us in two to three years and our offense is tweener friendly. He's the one player with similar trade value to Jeff. He rebounds and he has potential to be a good shooter. He needs development to play for us.

He is the player we would want for Jeff if we can't get an established SF who can rebound. Ariza would be ideal. He fits what we do. He's what we need. Parker won't start for us. He will have to learn how to play the way we play.



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Asking for Jabari Parker for Teague is very unreasonable. Jeff is an average starting PG in the NBA who had one all star season and has seen his production decline this year. Value is also driven by supply and demand and there really isn't a lot of demand for average PG's this year. If that's your asking price for Teague then Teague will remain a member of the Atlanta Hawks.

Teague is down because of how Schroder has come on and taken some of this mintues. I would bet money that Teague numbers would be much better on the right team where he is playing 33 minutes a game and would be right in the all star mix.

[King Ken]

Middleton has more value than Jeff due to his position and play this season. He's been a professional scorer and I would not trade him if I am Milwaukee. He is one of them.

Giannis is a franchise talent. Jeff is better than him and an All Star but no, just no. He's proven to be special. He's still raw. I see him like I see Dennis. Where you have to watch them play to know they have franchise talent. He's another one.

Parker. I am not a fan of his now. I think he has a way to go. I don't like him at PF but that's the only position open. I think he's raw and metric is not impressive in his first two seasons. I don't like his potential in Milwaukee. He's has potential in our system. I don't see franchise player but I think he could be very good for us in two to three years and our offense is tweener friendly. He's the one player with similar trade value to Jeff. He rebounds and he has potential to be a good shooter. He needs development to play for us.

He is the player we would want for Jeff if we can't get an established SF who can rebound. Ariza would be ideal. He fits what we do. He's what we need. Parker won't start for us. He will have to learn how to play the way we play.



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Asking for Jabari Parker for Teague is very unreasonable. Jeff is an average starting PG in the NBA who had one all star season and has seen his production decline this year. Value is also driven by supply and demand and there really isn't a lot of demand for average PG's this year. If that's your asking price for Teague then Teague will remain a member of the Atlanta Hawks.

Teague is down because of how Schroder has come on and taken some of this mintues. I would bet money that Teague numbers would be much better on the right team where he is playing 33 minutes a game and would be right in the all star mix.

Teague is hurt. Read the ajc.

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[Kilo]

Don't know if this is even close but I think Atl wants to acquire a big bodied physical center to allow Al to play a lot more PF - to try and keep him in the off-season. So Robin Lopez and Jerian Grant for Teague and Splitter??

[ChrisTheFuturePaul]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jka8nra

Calderon, Galloway, Derrick Williams
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Teague, Scott.

[King Ken]

Don't know if this is even close but I think Atl wants to acquire a big bodied physical center to allow Al to play a lot more PF - to try and keep him in the off-season. So Robin Lopez and Jerian Grant for Teague and Splitter??

We don't have enough minutes to consider a big unless it's someone like Okafor who has potential and we can develop them otherwise, our needs for Jeff are. I

1. A legit starting SF. Meaning they have put in work and in Free agency, they can command at LEAST 10 million per a season. None of these numbers guys on 9 win teams. They can't be badly overpaid... i.e. Harris

2. A SF with very good potential in OUR system. If you need help, their assets. When mentioned, you're hesitant. If you don't, it's likely not an asset and we don't want it either for our very talented PG.

3. A knockout deal. Let's say Hinkle wants him so bad he trades his 1st. Hypothetically speaking. Boston offers BRK 1st. LAL offers their 1st. Not saying this will happen AT all, I am just saying, a knockout no brainer deal would intrigue us even if the pieces aren't of the best fit.

Otherwise, it's not really that interesting. For example, if Atlanta is resigning Bazemore who's a SG, it makes no sense for us to trade for one when we have like 4 of them we like. We have Mike Scott and Millsap so the interest is low for PF. We have Horford who we want to resign and Splitter as well as a big with potential in Edy Tavares so our interest in C is low. If you look at SF, we do not have one this roster. Not even a bad one, we simply have none. So that's an interest for us and for Teague, that means we want quality value.

I said this earlier but it seems like others didn't understand or were new and just didn't bother to read.

I seen one offer with potential in this thread from a MIL fan but it would get rejected by the 3rd team. So if you can give us what we need, don't add a 3rd team who will easily turn down your deal to satisfy us when all teams want to be satisfied.

We are NOT rebuilding. We are not in a rush to get rid of him. Him and Dennis give us 48 minutes of great production from the PG position and they are a strength for our team. Do I have faith in Dennis starting? To a degree. For a team like Orlando or Milwaukee, yes but for a really good team trying to be contenders again, not really. He's still doesn't really know how to run the offense while Jeff is really good at running the offense. That's not going to show up on the stat sheet but it matters and our starting unit is flawed, I expect to see a drop in his percentages when he starts but at the end of the day, Dennis is our most talented member of our roster. So it is what it is.

[CAE15]

I really don't see how utah wouldn't beat any offer the Knicks would be willing to draw up.