Thon Maker is at least 23 years old

[ChuckChilly]

young!

[peZt]

Can anybody in the know say whether or not the Bucks drafted Maker knowing this (or at least suspecting it)?

The rumours about his age have been going on for years now so they should definitely have been suspecting it. Whether they knew for certain I don't know but whoever made the decision needs to be fired either way. For not knowing when just a random Reddit user managed to find out or for knowingly drafting a 23 year old who couldn't dominate high school kids.

[Dennis Reynolds]

The more important question here is.....what's the real age of Stephen A. Smith?

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Chit,it looks like Maker isn't even 23. The guy went to highschool with Stephen A. Smith. He's about to turn 50.

[Knicks Byke]

nobody gives a damn hes wack anyway

[Axl Rose]

doesn't matter much

being 23 just erases the very small percentage of him not busting

[Prez]

I'm pretty sure if he is older, the Bucks knew about it. In almost all their responses to it it's coming off pretty obvious that they know about it but just don't care. At one point in response to a question about him being older, iirc Hammond straight up said it doesn't matter to them.

At this point I just want to see him play. Apparently he was blowing them away in workouts, if they knew he was older (I'm pretty sure they did) and still took him they likely saw something most of us haven't in the past year or so. If he sucks ass during the season I'll rip on him then, until then I'm just gonna wait it out.

[In SVG We Trust]

Oladipo is 30, for sure

[RookieStar]

Also, Greg Oden is LBJ's dad fosho.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Welp, it'll all be for naught if Maker can pull a Giannis for the Bucks.

[BR0D1E86]

They need to start radiocarbon dating prospects at the draft combine. It's not perfect, but usually accurate to within about a year.

Nonsense, that's expensive. Just cut a leg off and count the rings.

[The Moose]

I believe it, something like this happening so many time on other sport like football etc. African (no racist intended just fact) is well know for something like this.

It's racist because people say this about every African player that looks old for their age even when there's no evidence.

Everyone, and I mean everyone said Mutombo was 5 years older than his true age until he was able to prove them wrong by playing well at age 40+.

http://espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2735070

If Mutombo had even had a normal career and retired around 35, everyone now would point to him as an example of an African player lying about his age.

It's not racist. According to the statistics anywhere between 40-60% births in Sudan are unregistered...

[The Moose]

The yearbook could have been from a school with more than grades 9-12.

Even then on a timeline basis placing him in grade 9 at the time of the photo, when you graduate from high school your the tender age of 18/19 and since he stated his birthday is in February he would be 19.

2010 - 2014 puts him at 19, its 2016 now so he is at least 21... ergo he is lying about his age lol.

I said it could be from more than those grades. So if he was in grade 7 if it's grades 6-12, he's 13 in 2010, or 19 now.

The page he's on specifically says grade 12 doesn't it

[Braggins]

Then you have Biyombo who somebody showed apparently was more like 26-27 right now, not 23.

Except that this absolutely never happened. The only evidence ever presented for Biyombo not being his listed age was a rumor before the draft that some GMs were concerned about his age, with the only given reason being simply that he is from the Congo. He also had a bone age test done in Spain when he initially moved there from the Congo that concluded that his age at the time was 16-17, but almost certainly not older than that. His listed age at that time of the test was 16. This is nothing more than a story that people believe because people like stories.

[OkcSinceSGA]

Then you have Biyombo who somebody showed apparently was more like 26-27 right now, not 23.

Except that this absolutely never happened. The only evidence ever presented for Biyombo not being his listed age was a rumor before the draft that some GMs were concerned about his age, with the only given reason being simply that he is from the Congo. He also had a bone age test done in Spain when he initially moved there from the Congo that concluded that his age at the time was 16-17, but almost certainly not older than that. His listed age at that time of the test was 16. This is nothing more than a story that people believe because people like stories.

Well it's good to know it's been researched and put to rest or what not.

[RollingWave]

They are pretty much the top draft site on the internet, its not at all like that. But hey, random reddit guy = reliable, OK.

I actually work heavily with conspiracy, unexplained phenomenon and the like. I'm usually pretty damn good at spotting doctored evidence like photos. These look legitimate to me and it falls in line with what I already told you about how most teams took him off the draft board because with conviction they believe Maker to be 21-23 years old, not 19. So you're claiming draftexpress is the guru, yet why were most NBA teams ruling him out against their advice? Doesn't add up chief.

Actually what doesn't add up is people claiming a random internet poster would know more about this than both the US government and a bunch of people literally paid to do this.

I'd add that it doesn't say in the yearbook he's in the graduating class. It just has him at the school that year.

If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but going off a reddit post isn't proving something to me.

You mean the same US Government where a significant portion of the population don't believe the birth certificate it issued to it's own President and the same professionals that drafted Yi JianLian? (whom I can say with 90% confidence is exactly 3 years older than his claimed age.)

You'd be surprised how really professional people end up lacking common sense .

One key here is that Thon Maker is legitimately without a birth certificate due to being born in Sudan (or what's currently South Sudan.) so that allows him some wiggle room to begin with, as the government of Australia / Canada / US have no real way to proof he's a different age either.

As for Ibaka, Royce Young noted very recently on podcast that he has a 9 year old daughter (as a 26 year old.) that's.... uncommon to say the least. (even if not impossible.)

But as with the comparison with Ibaka vs Thon the player, if we assume Ibaka is also maybe 3-4 years older the problem is that Ibaka was doing pretty well in a professional league (granted it was second division Spain) and on top of that he played another year in the ACB, a league whose better teams probably would be able to beat most d-league teams. where he was pretty good per minute wise .

Thon isn't exactly setting the world on fire in highschool. his stats is in the range of the average highschool draftees back when that was a thing .

It's not ideal anyway, if ppl knew for sure he's 23 and only played against highschool kids, taking him with 10 is a reach of epic proportion no matter how much you believe his athleticism.

[bondom34]

I actually work heavily with conspiracy, unexplained phenomenon and the like. I'm usually pretty damn good at spotting doctored evidence like photos. These look legitimate to me and it falls in line with what I already told you about how most teams took him off the draft board because with conviction they believe Maker to be 21-23 years old, not 19. So you're claiming draftexpress is the guru, yet why were most NBA teams ruling him out against their advice? Doesn't add up chief.

Actually what doesn't add up is people claiming a random internet poster would know more about this than both the US government and a bunch of people literally paid to do this.

I'd add that it doesn't say in the yearbook he's in the graduating class. It just has him at the school that year.

If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but going off a reddit post isn't proving something to me.

You mean the same US Government where a significant portion of the population don't believe the birth certificate it issued to it's own President and the same professionals that drafted Yi JianLian? (whom I can say with 90% confidence is exactly 3 years older than his claimed age.)

You'd be surprised how really professional people end up lacking common sense .

One key here is that Thon Maker is legitimately without a birth certificate due to being born in Sudan (or what's currently South Sudan.) so that allows him some wiggle room to begin with, as the government of Australia / Canada / US have no real way to proof he's a different age either.

As for Ibaka, Royce Young noted very recently on podcast that he has a 9 year old daughter (as a 26 year old.) that's.... uncommon to say the least. (even if not impossible.)

But as with the comparison with Ibaka vs Thon the player, if we assume Ibaka is also maybe 3-4 years older the problem is that Ibaka was doing pretty well in a professional league (granted it was second division Spain) and on top of that he played another year in the ACB, a league whose better teams probably would be able to beat most d-league teams. where he was pretty good per minute wise .

Thon isn't exactly setting the world on fire in highschool. his stats is in the range of the average highschool draftees back when that was a thing .

It's not ideal anyway, if ppl knew for sure he's 23 and only played against highschool kids, taking him with 10 is a reach of epic proportion no matter how much you believe his athleticism.

For multiple governments to miss this is a bit odd though, considering Australia did too. And Ibaka having a kid at 17 wouldn't be too uncommon. I don't know what's odd about someone in the Congo having a kid that young.

[bondom34]

Even then on a timeline basis placing him in grade 9 at the time of the photo, when you graduate from high school your the tender age of 18/19 and since he stated his birthday is in February he would be 19.

2010 - 2014 puts him at 19, its 2016 now so he is at least 21... ergo he is lying about his age lol.

I said it could be from more than those grades. So if he was in grade 7 if it's grades 6-12, he's 13 in 2010, or 19 now.

The page he's on specifically says grade 12 doesn't it

It said year on the page referenced originally I believe.

[BRIGGS]

Basketball players have about a 10 year life cycle or less. If hes 19 or 22 does it matter that much? The guy still is 7-1 with a 37 inch vertical ball-handling and in/out ability.

[need4detroit]

Basketball players have about a 10 year life cycle or less. If hes 19 or 22 does it matter that much? The guy still is 7-1 with a 37 inch vertical ball-handling and in/out ability.

And a 10 inch waist.

[peZt]

Basketball players have about a 10 year life cycle or less. If hes 19 or 22 does it matter that much? The guy still is 7-1 with a 37 inch vertical ball-handling and in/out ability.

He would be 23 or 24 and not 22. And yes it matters when you draft a raw "19" year old mainly for his long term potential.