GT #41: Jazz @ Wizards - Wed Jan 10th - 7 PM

[NatP4]

Positive pixels, maybe this pathetic season will push Ted and Ernie to make a big move, like trading away Wall.

[Wizardspride]

Positive pixels, maybe this pathetic season will push Ted and Ernie to make a big move, like trading away Wall.

What did Wall do to you or your family?

I'm dead serious....

[Sluggerface]

Positive pixels, maybe this pathetic season will push Ted and Ernie to make a big move, like trading away Wall.

What did Wall do to you or your family?

I'm dead serious....

I don't always agree about some of the shtick that he throws Wall's way at times, but it's something to seriously consider. Wall is about to get paid MVP level money, and it's unlikely that his production will ever actually reach that peak. Trading Wall and getting a real actionable return out of it (highly established all-star level players) would be a huge boon to the future of this team.

But Wall means too much to the greater fanbase. Trading him would be seen as a complete betrayal and would throw away a lot of what Ted has been attempting to build in terms of marketing the team, etc. Not gonna happen.

[pcbothwel]

Positive pixels, maybe this pathetic season will push Ted and Ernie to make a big move, like trading away Wall.

What did Wall do to you or your family?

I'm dead serious....

I don't always agree about some of the shtick that he throws Wall's way at times, but it's something to seriously consider. Wall is about to get paid MVP level money, and it's unlikely that his production will ever actually reach that peak. Trading Wall and getting a real actionable return out of it (highly established all-star level players) would be a huge boon to the future of this team.

But Wall means too much to the greater fanbase. Trading him would be seen as a complete betrayal and would throw away a lot of what Ted has been attempting to build in terms of marketing the team, etc. Not gonna happen.

Thank you. Its just not possible that we trade Wall anytime before his extension kicks in. Maybe in 3 years if we tear it down, but not anytime soon.
The good news is he is drawing fouls, converting at the rim, playing better defense than he has the last couple years, and is hitting the 3 ball... Fact is, only FT shooting and long 2's are the only percentages that are down. I have faith his FT's will climb a little, and couldnt care less about his long 2's as long as he takes less of them.

[ClutchDJ]

Positive pixels, maybe this pathetic season will push Ted and Ernie to make a big move, like trading away Wall.

Can Beal get traded too?

[Wizardspride]

Positive pixels, maybe this pathetic season will push Ted and Ernie to make a big move, like trading away Wall.

What did Wall do to you or your family?

I'm dead serious....

I don't always agree about some of the shtick that he throws Wall's way at times, but it's something to seriously consider. Wall is about to get paid MVP level money, and it's unlikely that his production will ever actually reach that peak. Trading Wall and getting a real actionable return out of it (highly established all-star level players) would be a huge boon to the future of this team.

But Wall means too much to the greater fanbase. Trading him would be seen as a complete betrayal and would throw away a lot of what Ted has been attempting to build in terms of marketing the team, etc. Not gonna happen.

When Nate suggests trading John I consider what he has to say,

NatP4 otoh, well let's just say his motivations are a bit "suspect".

He's been lowkey trying to trade Wall since he joined this board so.....

[Wizardspride]

Positive pixels, maybe this pathetic season will push Ted and Ernie to make a big move, like trading away Wall.

Can Beal get traded too?

Or Otto too for that matter.

I have no interest in building around Bradley/Otto.

If you trade John, well then just really blow it up and trade those two as well.

[NatP4]

What did Wall do to you or your family?

I'm dead serious....

I don't always agree about some of the shtick that he throws Wall's way at times, but it's something to seriously consider. Wall is about to get paid MVP level money, and it's unlikely that his production will ever actually reach that peak. Trading Wall and getting a real actionable return out of it (highly established all-star level players) would be a huge boon to the future of this team.

But Wall means too much to the greater fanbase. Trading him would be seen as a complete betrayal and would throw away a lot of what Ted has been attempting to build in terms of marketing the team, etc. Not gonna happen.

When Nate suggests trading John I consider what he has to say,

NatP4 otoh, well let's just say his motivations are a bit "suspect".

He's been lowkey trying to trade Wall since he joined this board so.....

What a stupid thing to say

[NatP4]

Positive pixels, maybe this pathetic season will push Ted and Ernie to make a big move, like trading away Wall.

Can Beal get traded too?

Or Otto too for that matter.

I have no interest in building around Bradley/Otto.

If you trade John, well then just really blow it up and trade those two as well.

Why? Neither of them are going to make 40 million, neither of them are 27 years old. Neither of them have intangible issues. You could make the argument that removing Wall would solve the leadership issues immediately.

Build around Oubre Porter and Beal and the return for Wall plus the savings on that outrageously horrible super max contract

[Wizardspride]

Can Beal get traded too?

Or Otto too for that matter.

I have no interest in building around Bradley/Otto.

If you trade John, well then just really blow it up and trade those two as well.

Why? Neither of them are going to make 40 million, neither of them are 27 years old. Neither of them have intangible issues. You could make the argument that removing Wall would solve the leadership issues immediately.

Build around Oubre Porter and Beal and the return for Wall plus the savings on that outrageously horrible super max contract

And what exactly are these "intangible issues" Wall has?

I'd like to know.

And as for building around those three,no thanks because honestly, I don't think they are good enough to build around.

I'd rather tank then be mediocre (maybe) with those three.

[NatP4]

Or Otto too for that matter.

I have no interest in building around Bradley/Otto.

If you trade John, well then just really blow it up and trade those two as well.

Why? Neither of them are going to make 40 million, neither of them are 27 years old. Neither of them have intangible issues. You could make the argument that removing Wall would solve the leadership issues immediately.

Build around Oubre Porter and Beal and the return for Wall plus the savings on that outrageously horrible super max contract

And what exactly are these "intangible issues" Wall has?

I'd like to know.

And as for building around those three,no thanks because honestly, I don't think they are good enough to build around.

I'd rather tank then be mediocre (maybe) with those three.

Taking stupid ass self centered shots that kill momentum, never playing defense or boxing out his man, pouting in the corner with his hands on his knees when he doesn’t get to play with the ball, careless turnovers. Making idiotic comments to the media about his teammates and other players.

I wouldn’t care about any of this if he just flipped the switch in the playoffs, but last year in the playoffs, he continued these bad habits.

The face of your franchise needs to be either be a vocal leader or a leader by example that tries to make the right play every time down the court and gives 100%. There isn’t another player on the team that gives less effort than Wall, that is completely wrong.

Not to mention his basketball flaws of being an inefficient scorer on high usage that is about to be paid 40 million per year into his 30+ years

[NatP4]

just go read other teams boards, they don’t even want Walls awful contract.

[Wizardspride]

I don't always agree about some of the shtick that he throws Wall's way at times, but it's something to seriously consider. Wall is about to get paid MVP level money, and it's unlikely that his production will ever actually reach that peak. Trading Wall and getting a real actionable return out of it (highly established all-star level players) would be a huge boon to the future of this team.

But Wall means too much to the greater fanbase. Trading him would be seen as a complete betrayal and would throw away a lot of what Ted has been attempting to build in terms of marketing the team, etc. Not gonna happen.

When Nate suggests trading John I consider what he has to say,

NatP4 otoh, well let's just say his motivations are a bit "suspect".

He's been lowkey trying to trade Wall since he joined this board so.....

What a stupid thing to say

Is it really?

You have been crapping on Wall non stop.

And I don't mean normal criticism either.

Honestly, if I didn't know anything about the NBA and I was just reading your posts about John, I'd think he was a 2nd-string point guard...maybe.

It all came into clear focus during the playoffs last season.

When Wall was carrying us during the Hawks series (while others were M.I.A) you were mighty quiet. It was noticeable. But interestingly enough, when John had his struggles against Boston you got mighty talkative all of a sudden.

It's a pattern with you and I don't think I'm the only one who has noticed.

It's like you're literally WAITING for John to make a mistake (missed shot, bad pass etc) just so you can point it out.

And why it stands out is you have a habit of defending others players mistakes/poor play.

Its interesting that people are concerned about John's impending contract when I'm actually more concerned with the 106m we gave Otto.

I was one of the biggest Otto fans on this board when he was coming out of college (took some heat for it too) but I just can't fathom paying this kind of money to someone this passive.

Yes, he's a great shooter etc, when actually he SHOOTS ..which he seems reluctant to do.

And before you use the "Wall needs to pass him the ball more" line , well Otto had his opportunity to step up in John's absence and I wasn't particularly impressed.

I don't want to move any of the BIG 3 but if I HAD to Otto would be the guy.

[DANNYLANDOVER]

NatP4 might be very abrasive with his posting style, but I do agree with him. I would not object to trading John and his contract (reminds me of the Blatche early extension with how knee-jerk it was). I'd like to see him play for a good coach like Pop. I wonder what he and Kawhi could do together. Too bad Spurs don't have anything good to trade...apart from Kawhi.

[NatP4]

When Nate suggests trading John I consider what he has to say,

NatP4 otoh, well let's just say his motivations are a bit "suspect".

He's been lowkey trying to trade Wall since he joined this board so.....

What a stupid thing to say

Is it really?

You have been crapping on Wall non stop.

And I don't mean normal criticism either.

Honestly, if I didn't know anything about the NBA and I was just reading your posts about John, I'd think he was a 2nd-string point guard...maybe.

It all came into clear focus during the playoffs last season.

When Wall was carrying us during the Hawks series (while others were M.I.A) you were mighty quiet. It was noticeable. But interestingly enough, when John had his struggles against Boston you got mighty talkative all of a sudden.

It's a pattern with you and I don't think I'm the only one who has noticed.

It's like you're literally WAITING for John to make a mistake (missed shot, bad pass etc) just so you can point it out.

And why it stands out is you have a habit of defending others players mistakes/poor play.

Its interesting that people are concerned about John's impending contract when I'm actually more concerned with the 106m we gave Otto.

I was one of the biggest Otto fans on this board when he was coming out of college (took some heat for it too) but I just can't fathom paying this kind of money to someone this passive.

Yes, he's a great shooter etc, when actually he SHOOTS ..which he seems reluctant to do.

And before you use the "Wall needs to pass him the ball more" line , well Otto had his opportunity to step up in John's absence and I wasn't particularly impressed.

I don't want to move any of the BIG 3 but if I HAD to Otto would be the guy.

That just isn’t true. I was praising Wall after game 6 of the hawks series which was the best game of his career. I praise Wall when he plays like he is capable of playing, which isn’t often in the last two years because of his awful defensive effort.

I don’t even know what to say to the rest of that post. Trade Otto? Our best player who is 24? The one that isn’t signed to a Supermax?

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

Wow, that's the first time I've genuinely enjoyed Stephen A. Smith. That was an epic rant! And he is exactly right. The Wizards play like they've "arrived" even though they haven't accomplished a damn thing in this league. It's embarrassing. It makes it really hard to be a fan.

They just lost, at home, to a Utah Jazz team that has lost 9 of their last 11 games without Gobert. Get your act together Wizards! This is a pro-league because it's supposed to be filled with professionals. Act professional!

Agreed. That is pretty gole dern funny.

And for once, he manages to get most of it right.

The best part was the look on Max Kellerman’s face when they cut to him.

[ClutchDJ]

What a stupid thing to say

Is it really?

You have been crapping on Wall non stop.

And I don't mean normal criticism either.

Honestly, if I didn't know anything about the NBA and I was just reading your posts about John, I'd think he was a 2nd-string point guard...maybe.

It all came into clear focus during the playoffs last season.

When Wall was carrying us during the Hawks series (while others were M.I.A) you were mighty quiet. It was noticeable. But interestingly enough, when John had his struggles against Boston you got mighty talkative all of a sudden.

It's a pattern with you and I don't think I'm the only one who has noticed.

It's like you're literally WAITING for John to make a mistake (missed shot, bad pass etc) just so you can point it out.

And why it stands out is you have a habit of defending others players mistakes/poor play.

Its interesting that people are concerned about John's impending contract when I'm actually more concerned with the 106m we gave Otto.

I was one of the biggest Otto fans on this board when he was coming out of college (took some heat for it too) but I just can't fathom paying this kind of money to someone this passive.

Yes, he's a great shooter etc, when actually he SHOOTS ..which he seems reluctant to do.

And before you use the "Wall needs to pass him the ball more" line , well Otto had his opportunity to step up in John's absence and I wasn't particularly impressed.

I don't want to move any of the BIG 3 but if I HAD to Otto would be the guy.

That just isn’t true. I was praising Wall after game 6 of the hawks series which was the best game of his career. I praise Wall when he plays like he is capable of playing, which isn’t often in the last two years because of his awful defensive effort.

I don’t even know what to say to the rest of that post. Trade Otto? Our best player who is 24? The one that isn’t signed to a Supermax?

Sure you gave him credit. Just like you said you wanted to trade John for CP3 & Capela but everyone “laughed at you” for the thought of that idea, correct? You’re hilarious.

I remember you blaming Brooks for OTTO shooting like crap & getting burned by Taurean Prince during the Hawks series. You know you blame John when he makes even the tiniest of mistake, but go missing when Otto makes mistakes/shoots like crap. You was the same with Beal, but it seems you have started faulting him for his own shortcomings this season. I’m not Wall “fanboy” or “stan” because I will also call out his faults, but never to the lengths of you do & I will actually point out all the great things he does unlike you. You just have an unhealthy obsession with faulting the dude for everything & it’s really sad on your part.

Let’s not forget that Brad has said some stupid s*** just like John so he’s not blameless. The “Cavs avoided us in the playoffs” & “Best team in the East” comments. I’d even go as far to say that Brad has been more wreckless with his mouth than John has this season. John might not be the best of leader, but Brad damn sure isn’t either.

[Tricky_Kid]

Stephen A Smith - he is pathetic at times but I can agree with him in few points about Beal who is not cluch, Brooks for not calling the plays for best shooter - Otto or Kelly Oubre.

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[Tricky_Kid]

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[Tricky_Kid]

Sorry You posted it earlier ^^

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