PG Thread (Phoenix) - No more Kidding around

blazza18 · Post #181 » by **blazza18** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:43 am

Really interested in seeing how different this team will be under Prunty. Will take more than a few weeks but I'm sure he'll have his own way of doing things to the previous coach.

VooDoo7 · Post #182 » by **VooDoo7** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:49 am

blazza18 wrote:Really interested in seeing how different this team will be under Prunty. Will take more than a few weeks but I'm sure he'll have his own way of doing things to the previous coach.

He played Mids under 40 minutes. So that's a plus. :wink:

AussieBuck · Post #183 » by **AussieBuck** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:52 am

bizarro wrote:
Rockmaninoff wrote:
Jez2983 wrote:How do we get an actual C?

Play Plumlee.

How sad is that? I mean, Meat Chunk is a bigger Brockman so slightly less a negative. He tries hard, brings good energy, sets good picks, has some OK hands and can shoot FT's tolerably. BUT, man, the kid is a fringe fringe NBA player. He has zero skills around the basket. This is the sad state of affairs at the 5 Hole.

I'd start him until we get a centre. I wonder if we could get a good backup C from somewhere for one/all of our last 3 first rounders and Henson.

AussieBuck · Post #184 » by **AussieBuck** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:00 am

TroyD92 wrote:Anything noticeably different ? Rotations? Defense? Offense?

Straight up defense outside of a few surprise blitzes. Bledsoe played more of his natural game.

I remember a while back posting about how grating it would be for Brogdon to have to talk to/get coached by Kidd. He was diplomatic but the dude clearly didn't like the ole POS.

AussieBuck · Post #185 » by **AussieBuck** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:49 am

Did we all notice Jim and MJ having a quiet laugh when Brogdon was shooting FTs to put us up 4 at the end? Eeeeeeeeeeevvvvvveryone was in on the Kidd is a moron thing.

hege53190 · Post #186 » by **hege53190** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:17 am

It is really sad that Plumlee is so much better than Thon.

RiotPunch · Post #187 » by **RiotPunch** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:20 pm

Two notes of significance:

1. Why couldn't they let Thon try to fight Len?

2. Plumlees are pretty meh big white dudes, but I'll be damned if they don't have impeccable hairstyles. Hard parts on point all day errday like I'm watching Mad Men or something.

Bucksfan28 · Post #188 » by **Bucksfan28** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:40 pm

El Duderino wrote:
Bucksfan28 wrote:Omg the whole 1250 show is a cesspool of ignorance right now. Someone call in.

If you want better hosts on the station, do as i do, never ever listen.

Only bad ratings bring change at radio stations. Everyone who listens to that moron and their other crappy hosts is only helping to keep them employed.

No doubt. I've abstained from that station/ those hosts for a long time now. The thread here motivated me to check it out and man are people dumb.

ReasonablySober · Post #189 » by **ReasonablySober** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:30 pm

stellation wrote:
Jez2983 wrote:How do we get an actual C?

Amazing.

ReasonablySober · Post #190 » by **ReasonablySober** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:38 pm

I know we're all awash in the Kidd getting sh*tcanned, but last night was the most Iso heavy performance I can recall this season, and Prunty is the mastermind behind the team's offense. Sure, I'll give him some time to make his mark on the team, but we all have to remember Kidd wasn't the architect behind either the offensive or defensive schemes; those guys are still around. If we're still hyper aggressive and iso heavy and not getting ourselves clean looks from outside or at the hoop, the Bucks can't be too successful the rest of the way.

Keep your eye on the ball. In all likelihood the best thing for the organization is a complete reset of the coaching staff.

Ron Swanson · Post #191 » by **Ron Swanson** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:46 pm

Yep, the team isn't gonna look drastically different other than in the "energy and effort" department, at least until the Prunty honeymoon phase wears off. Just remember 2012-13 when Boylan took over for Skiles. We just gotta make sure we don't hire Larry Drew again....

Badgerlander · Post #192 » by **Badgerlander** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:57 pm

Yeah the only change is going to be the minutes distribution. This is Prunty's shot so he's going to play the better players heavy minutes to try to win as many games as possible. Henson probably gets 30+ minutes from here on out (along with the rest of the starters), so Thon may as well get comfy on the pine. Brown getting more minutes than Delly and Snelly last night makes sense too.

slappyg · Post #193 » by **slappyg** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:07 pm

Never playing Thon and Jet ever again immediately makes us much better. Simple Addition by subtraction.

crkone · Post #194 » by **crkone** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:08 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:I know we're all awash in the Kidd getting sh*tcanned, but last night was the most Iso heavy performance I can recall this season, and Prunty is the mastermind behind the team's offense. Sure, I'll give him some time to make his mark on the team, but we all have to remember Kidd wasn't the architect behind either the offensive or defensive schemes; those guys are still around. If we're still hyper aggressive and iso heavy and not getting ourselves clean looks from outside or at the hoop, the Bucks can't be too successful the rest of the way.

Keep your eye on the ball. In all likelihood the best thing for the organization is a complete reset of the coaching staff.

It's probable they stay the course but the coaches know they have an endpoint now. They shouldn't be patient with the players when they are making mistakes or teams go off on runs. At least I wouldn't be if I wanted a new job after this season.

Tricky_Kid · Post #195 » by **Tricky_Kid** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:14 pm

First thing on my mind after I read the news

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Tricky_Kid · Post #196 » by **Tricky_Kid** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:15 pm

Tricky_Kid wrote:First thing on my mind after I read the news

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When I thought about Bucks fans of course

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Chapter29 · Post #197 » by **Chapter29** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:20 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Just think what $30+ million could do for this team. Because we're getting nothing from Delly, Telly and Snell

Yep, when someone posted Snell and Brown could take up Middleton's slack if traded, I was shocked.

I would seriously just give away those 3. Snell isn't terrible but he's invisible and overpaid.

ReasonablySober · Post #198 » by **ReasonablySober** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:30 pm

crkone wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:I know we're all awash in the Kidd getting sh*tcanned, but last night was the most Iso heavy performance I can recall this season, and Prunty is the mastermind behind the team's offense. Sure, I'll give him some time to make his mark on the team, but we all have to remember Kidd wasn't the architect behind either the offensive or defensive schemes; those guys are still around. If we're still hyper aggressive and iso heavy and not getting ourselves clean looks from outside or at the hoop, the Bucks can't be too successful the rest of the way.

Keep your eye on the ball. In all likelihood the best thing for the organization is a complete reset of the coaching staff.

It's probable they stay the course but the coaches know they have an endpoint now. They shouldn't be patient with the players when they are making mistakes or teams go off on runs. At least I wouldn't be if I wanted a new job after this season.

Prunty has an audition for one of the very best gigs in the sport. I can barely fathom the idea that a smart coach given this opportunity wouldn't pull out every last stop to try and make it work. Dial back the trapping and blitzing, tighten up the rotations with the best players, do something to modernize the offense. He's got three months to figure it out. More of what we saw last night won't cut it.

M-C-G · Post #199 » by **M-C-G** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:35 pm

TJseven wrote:Side observations from the game. Teachers pet middleton continues to the worst energy and effort player on defense on the entire team. Saw him try to get a jump start on offense... watch phx get the offensive rebound and he slow trudged back to his mark as his guy shot an open 3. My pet peeve and he dud that twice amoungst other things. Very nice offensive game but all stars of his talent level need to play both ways.

Bledsoe has to stop trying flashy passes. He's good for 2-3 tos a game simply by trying to be a better passer than is needed.

They fought off a bad team. At least they fought.

I had to rewatch the entire first couple minutes until Prunty was forced to calm a timeout to make sure I saw what I really saw and that was Middleton being one of the laziest defenders humanly possible. Luckily he at least dialed it up after the time out from a zero to a two the rest of the game. But TS%, AST, etc etc.

Glad he had a nice game and hoping the coaching change lights a little fire in his defensive effort.

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M-C-G · Post #200 » by **M-C-G** » Tue Jan 23, 2018 3:36 pm

AussieBuck wrote:
bizarro wrote:
Rockmaninoff wrote:
Play Plumlee.

How sad is that? I mean, Meat Chunk is a bigger Brockman so slightly less a negative. He tries hard, brings good energy, sets good picks, has some OK hands and can shoot FT's tolerably. BUT, man, the kid is a fringe fringe NBA player. He has zero skills around the basket. This is the sad state of affairs at the 5 Hole.

I'd start him until we get a centre. I wonder if we could get a good backup C from somewhere for one/all of our last 3 first rounders and Henson.

He could be our Bayne which is fine. He literally runs around looking to set picks and our team doesn't know what to do, like they have never seen it before

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