Howard signs a 2 year deal for the tax MLE with a player option per Woj

[Sluggerface]

I cant say it WILL work, but if there was ever a situation for Dwight to settle into a perfect role...its here and now.
All of his previous stops he was considered a 2nd, MAYBE 3rd option on offense and always made a significant salary of over 20M+.
Now he is a 4th option and makes peanuts from us. A lot less "Gravity" to him, and therefore less focus internally.
Age/maturity, Role, Salary all on the positive side...

Dwight actually curbed the post up nonsense to a degree in Houston. He just never bought into it internally and let that affect other parts of his game.

He's had the grand experiment of trying to be "The Guy" again in the modern NBA, and it blew up in his face. Fractured locker rooms, coaches fired, teammates cheering when he gets traded, and Dwight's only been slightly above average
during that time. Nowhere near a star level talent.

This is his last chance. He's not coming here on a max contract. He's coming here on an exception after nobody in the league wanted him. This is John and Brad's team. If he screws up here, he is completely done in the NBA. He has to know this.

[dckingsfan]

I cant say it WILL work, but if there was ever a situation for Dwight to settle into a perfect role...its here and now.
All of his previous stops he was considered a 2nd, MAYBE 3rd option on offense and always made a significant salary of over 20M+.
Now he is a 4th option and makes peanuts from us. A lot less "Gravity" to him, and therefore less focus internally.
Age/maturity, Role, Salary all on the positive side...

Dwight actually curbed the post up nonsense to a degree in Houston. He just never bought into it internally and let that affect other parts of his game.

He's had the grand experiment of trying to be "The Guy" again in the modern NBA, and it blew up in his face. Fractured locker rooms, coaches fired, teammates cheering when he gets traded, and Dwight's only been slightly above average
during that time. Nowhere near a star level talent.

This is his last chance. He's not coming here on a max contract. He's coming here on an exception after nobody in the league wanted him. This is John and Brad's team. If he screws up here, he is completely done in the NBA. He has to know this.

[doclinkin]

we have one of the best centers of all time on our team. He probably has 2-3 more really good years

This really is indeed the case.

Dwight Howard, particularly when he was with Orlando, was legitimately a HOF player and one of the top 10 best centers of all time. And since Orlando, his per minute production has not dropped off that much, though his defensive impact has.

You do know you are quoting Ji right here, right?

You do know this means we are doomed, right?

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Well I have to say I was pleasantly surprised to see the Howard and Green signings last night. I had convinced myself we were staying pat after the Grunfeeld interview saying he was comfortable with Mahinmi as the starter. I would like to see us sign Lawson, I liked the way he played for us and the tempo he brings off the bench.


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NBAWashington eyeing Jamal Crawford, Ty Lawson, among othersby Danny Smal lJuly 3, 2018 According to Candace Buckner of the Washington Post, the Wizards are eyeing Jamal Crawford, Additionally, Buckner reports that Washington is also interested in veteran point guard Ty Lawson.

But their interest in the veterans on the market indicate their willingness to give this roster a shot to compete in the Eastern Conference. With LeBron James’ departure, the East has completely opened up.

The Wizards are in an odd position. They have a lot of money invested into three players—John Wall, Bradley Beal, and Otto Porter Jr. All three players are excellent, but are they good enough to knock off the likes of the Boston Celtics and the Philadelphia 76ers? Probably not.

But they’re going to give it their best shot.

Of the multiple guys that the Wizards are reportedly targeting, Crawford and Lawson are the best fits. Lawson provided decent minutes off the bench for Washington in the playoffs. Additionally, Crawford is the consummate professional. He’s a veteran that can immediately provide a scoring touch off the bench.

Not to mention, Crawford’s influence around the team may help repair a tumultuous locker room.

Brooks and Grunfeld hate Sato.

It makes me so angry. Sato is the perfect guard to pair with Rivers, and he plays well alongside Beal as well. We don't need Lawson or Crawford.

Don't put it on them. Sato is European. So is Gortat. So was Vesely. Certain players are going to get hazed in the NBA and they're never going to be able to get the same respect that they deserve. Black players get instant acceptance .

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Nah...not trading Brown anytime soon. Kid is going to be a keeper.

If he develops, unfortunately, even though Green could be a nice piece, he’s going to take all of Brown’s PT. Hell, if Brooks doesn’t commit to small ball, green could honestly take PT from both Oubre and Brown. You just know, Green and Rivers won’t be receiving DNPs to start the season. You got Green, Rivers, Mahinmi, 2 other bench spots, one of which will receive close to no playing time anyways (will be Sato)

All of it could be shifted perfectly if Morris was simply waived or dumped for nothing

I think there is absolutely no chance that Brooks commits to small ball after these off-season signings, no? Think about it - he is going to have to play Dwight/Mahinmi - no problem there. But then he has Green/Morris. He LOVES Morris. And he isn't going to NOT play Green - it just isn't going to happen. So, I see no way that he doesn't have a Dwight/Morris and Mahimni/Green rotation.

The guys that will be out of playing time with the recent signings will be Sato/Brown. He has no faith in Sato and will play Rivers at the backup PG unless things get really bad. And he is going to play Rivers/Oubre ahead of Brown, no?

When it's all said and done Brown will be a nice player for another team. Satoransky is going to be back in Europe...The Wizards are going to be a 39 to 45 win team to keep squeaking in the playoffs and putting butts in the seats.

Ted's making money that's all that matters

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

It's nice to see you guys feeling positive about the season. Howard will certainly help -- he has to be the biggest rent-a-player bargain in a long long time!

The guys gone from last year (Gortat, Scott, Frazier, Sessions & McCullough) played @4600 minutes. We've definitely replaced those minutes:

John Wall was down @ 1000 minutes due to injury, meaning that the @1100 minutes that went to Frazier/Sessions should go to him. An improvement, obviously!

Gortat played 2075 minutes. Howard will play those -- & maybe a couple hundred more, taking those minutes from Mahinmi. In all, definitely should be more productive.

Green is in for Scott's 1400 minutes. A wash.

I'm giving McCullough's 90 minutes to Thomas Bryant, ok?

We've also added Austin Rivers. Where do his minutes come from?

For starters, Brad played too many much last year -- 2977 minutes. That was 4th highest in the league & only 49 minutes less than LeBron who was first. That may account for some of his fall off from the previous year & for some non-stellar late-season performances as well. I'd rather see him play 400 fewer minutes. Meeks will be gone the first 25 games. It doesn't look like it'd be hard for Rivers to play 1500+ minutes on the season.

You have to hope that Rivers doesn't take minutes from Satoransky or Oubre.

Despite my dissatisfaction with the draft & the general failure to add enough guys with an upside who are actually going to be Wizards for a while, it does look like we haven't gotten worse for this season. With the addition of Howard, we'll be reasonably sure to make the playoffs.

Ernie has kicked the can down the road another year.

They have stayed mediocre or little bit better than mediocre. Being in the Ernie zone is like being in the friend zone of the NBA. Never really going to score the big prize but you'll always be respected

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Thinking just a little more long-term:

By next year this time, Ernie will likely have traded either Porter or Beal (more likely Otto) & maybe have sacrificed a R1 pick to move Mahinmi as well. In that case, depending on what we've gotten back for Otto, we'll be able to re-sign Oubre & Satoransky.

If Brown develops quickly, plus Robinson actually can play in the NBA, plus we've kept Penava who continues to develop, why then -- given how terrific I expect Thomas Bryant to be by then -- we should be interesting to watch. Not a force in the EC, & not a title contender, but a middle of the road NBA team. Sort of like what we are now.

They're going to trade Porter IMO.

I don't think wall really likes Porter.

[NatP4]

If he develops, unfortunately, even though Green could be a nice piece, he’s going to take all of Brown’s PT. Hell, if Brooks doesn’t commit to small ball, green could honestly take PT from both Oubre and Brown. You just know, Green and Rivers won’t be receiving DNPs to start the season. You got Green, Rivers, Mahinmi, 2 other bench spots, one of which will receive close to no playing time anyways (will be Sato)

All of it could be shifted perfectly if Morris was simply waived or dumped for nothing

I think there is absolutely no chance that Brooks commits to small ball after these off-season signings, no? Think about it - he is going to have to play Dwight/Mahinmi - no problem there. But then he has Green/Morris. He LOVES Morris. And he isn't going to NOT play Green - it just isn't going to happen. So, I see no way that he doesn't have a Dwight/Morris and Mahimni/Green rotation.

The guys that will be out of playing time with the recent signings will be Sato/Brown. He has no faith in Sato and will play Rivers at the backup PG unless things get really bad. And he is going to play Rivers/Oubre ahead of Brown, no?

When it's all said and done Brown will be a nice player for another team satoransky is going to be back in Europe and the Wizards are going to be a 39 to 45 win team to keep squeaking in the playoffs and putting butts in the seats Ted's making money that's all that matters

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The pelicans fanbase has been drooling over Satoransky. I don’t think he’s headed back to Europe.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Gortat was becoming too much of a locker room problem, so they brought in Dwight Howard. Story checks out

I don't blame Gortat for not kissing John Wall's ass

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

20&15 per36 and now he’s going to be playing with Wall Beal and Porter. I couldn’t be more excited. He’s going to get shots, tons of them. At 31, Gortat was averaging over 12 shots per 36 with us.

If it allows us to play more Otto at the 4, it’s a real home run.

The hornets best lineups were the ones that featured Marvin Williams at the 4 next to Dwight. Their worst lineups were the ones that featured Kaminsky at the 4 alongside Dwight.

Despite all my snarky remarks I believe Howard's going to work out fine

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[Dat2U]

Well I have to say I was pleasantly surprised to see the Howard and Green signings last night. I had convinced myself we were staying pat after the Grunfeeld interview saying he was comfortable with Mahinmi as the starter. I would like to see us sign Lawson, I liked the way he played for us and the tempo he brings off the bench.


From the website CLUTCHPOINTS:

NBAWashington eyeing Jamal Crawford, Ty Lawson, among othersby Danny Smal lJuly 3, 2018 According to Candace Buckner of the Washington Post, the Wizards are eyeing Jamal Crawford, Additionally, Buckner reports that Washington is also interested in veteran point guard Ty Lawson.

But their interest in the veterans on the market indicate their willingness to give this roster a shot to compete in the Eastern Conference. With LeBron James’ departure, the East has completely opened up.

The Wizards are in an odd position. They have a lot of money invested into three players—John Wall, Bradley Beal, and Otto Porter Jr. All three players are excellent, but are they good enough to knock off the likes of the Boston Celtics and the Philadelphia 76ers? Probably not.

But they’re going to give it their best shot.

Of the multiple guys that the Wizards are reportedly targeting, Crawford and Lawson are the best fits. Lawson provided decent minutes off the bench for Washington in the playoffs. Additionally, Crawford is the consummate professional. He’s a veteran that can immediately provide a scoring touch off the bench.

Not to mention, Crawford’s influence around the team may help repair a tumultuous locker room.

Brooks and Grunfeld hate Sato.

It makes me so angry. Sato is the perfect guard to pair with Rivers, and he plays well alongside Beal as well. We don't need Lawson or Crawford.

Don't put it on them. Sato is European. So is Gortat. So was Vesely. Certain players are going to get hazed in the NBA and they're never going to be able to get the same respect that they deserve as black player. Especially when it got like Wall is the point guard.

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What a bullsh*t post.

Your so blinded with hate towards Wall. So it's now his fault Vesely didn't ball out, Gortat's play slipped and Sato couldn't get aggressive until he was forced into a starting role?

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I think there is absolutely no chance that Brooks commits to small ball after these off-season signings, no? Think about it - he is going to have to play Dwight/Mahinmi - no problem there. But then he has Green/Morris. He LOVES Morris. And he isn't going to NOT play Green - it just isn't going to happen. So, I see no way that he doesn't have a Dwight/Morris and Mahimni/Green rotation.

The guys that will be out of playing time with the recent signings will be Sato/Brown. He has no faith in Sato and will play Rivers at the backup PG unless things get really bad. And he is going to play Rivers/Oubre ahead of Brown, no?

When it's all said and done Brown will be a nice player for another team satoransky is going to be back in Europe and the Wizards are going to be a 39 to 45 win team to keep squeaking in the playoffs and putting butts in the seats Ted's making money that's all that matters

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The pelicans fanbase has been drooling over Satoransky. I don’t think he’s headed back to Europe.

I hope they trade him at once because Scott Brooks is a moron just like the guy that hired him.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Brooks and Grunfeld hate Sato.

It makes me so angry. Sato is the perfect guard to pair with Rivers, and he plays well alongside Beal as well. We don't need Lawson or Crawford.

Don't put it on them. Sato is European. So is Gortat. So was Vesely. Certain players are going to get hazed in the NBA and they're never going to be able to get the same respect that they deserve as black player. Especially when it got like Wall is the point guard.

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What a bullsh*t post.

Your so blinded with hate towards Wall. So it's now his fault Vesely didn't ball out, Gortat's play slipped and Sato couldn't get aggressive until he was forced into a starting role?

The post had some autocorrect b*******. I remove the remark about wall but since you so much on walls tip you could not even give me 3 minutes to edit.

I am not blinded by hate.

Time and again I turn out right in the end and you're going to see what I'm talking about.

Edited to Add:

Didn't even say wall had a damn thing to do with vesely. The acquisition of Okafor and Ariza interrupted his best basketball. The Wizards killed his career the same way they're killing satoransky career by acquiring a bunch of veterans.

I don't even have the energy to argue about this and what I'm saying is the Wizards do not develop certain players. Scott Brooks is the one that's RUINING satoransky. The fact that the Wizards did pretty well when everybody eats started was a threat to John Wall. In the end John Wall went right back to the shop jacking him and Bradley Beal

You and all of DC is happy losing the same damn way again and again as long as John Wall is the one missing the shot

I'm not going to post anymore because this autocorrect is just f***** up. Until I learn how to disable it I will not post anymore on this cell phone

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Just look at the elimination games of the last few playoff series and tell me all about how good John Wall is.

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[Dat2U]

Just look at the elimination games of the last few playoff series and tell me all about how good John Wall is.

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Tell me how good Cousins' playoff numbers were again?

Or how bout Vesely or Sato's postseason numbers?

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Just look at the elimination games of the last few playoff series and tell me all about how good John Wall is.

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Tell me how good Cousins' playoff numbers were again?

Or how bout Vesely or Sato's postseason numbers?

--Snipped--

I used to support jaVale McGee when the rest of y'all said how bad he was . Pretty soon cousins is going to make all of y'all shut up...

[Dat2U]

I loved how CCJ predicted nearly every PG in the 1st rd of the NBA draft since 2011 would be better than Wall...

Until they weren't.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

The gift to be simple is the gift to be free...

Snipped...no need

[Dat2U]

If only we drafted Cousins... and played him at PF... sigh.

[pancakes3]

come on ccj. not a good look playing the race card on wall like that. y'all still talking about jan f'ing vesely on this board?