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GT #56: Wizards @ Bulls 8 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) - Otto Porter Revenge Night?

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Re: GT #56: Wizards @ Bulls 8 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) - Otto Porter Revenge Night? 

Post#181 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:27 am

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nate33 wrote:Parker starts the 2nd half.

Edit. Apparently Green is hurt.

i love green and hope he's ok but that injury could be a blessing. maybe parker will start now.
Veteran move, perhaps?

Might be glad to have Parker ball out vs old team.

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Post#182 » by DCZards » Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:03 am

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montestewart wrote:First time I've watched (most of) back-to-back Wizards games in 2019. Can't really say what the future holds, but it's holding my attention for now. Might be fun to see a bunch of Parker-Portis-Johnson-Randle

our starting lineup should be tomas-beal-ariza-parker-portis
I'd keep starting Bryant, and bring Portis off the bench.



Yes, Bryant must continue to start. He's been one of the best things to happen to the Zards this season. You don't reward his effort, growth and dependability by taking him out of the starting lineup, especially when you want to re-sign him after this season.

Don't know if our new guys from Chicago are going to keep up this level of play, but I like what I've seen thus far. Parker doesn't look like a guy who has had two torn ACLs.

Props to Wes Johnson for a great game as well. Love the way he uses his length and quicks on the defensive end. That's been a real surprise. I saw Wes as strictly a long-range gunner.
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Re: GT #56: Wizards @ Bulls 8 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) - Otto Porter Revenge Night? 

Post#183 » by TGW » Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:57 am

Ditto on people saying that Parker is shockingly fast with the basketball in his hands.

Comparing him to Otto from a speed perspective....it's not close.
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Re: GT #56: Wizards @ Bulls 8 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) - Otto Porter Revenge Night? 

Post#184 » by TheKingOfVa360 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:42 am

Parker looks like he’s playing with a chip on his shoulder. He’s looking like a franchise player
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Re: GT #56: Wizards @ Bulls 8 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) - Otto Porter Revenge Night? 

Post#185 » by TheBabyMaker » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:00 am

TheKingOfVa360 wrote:Parker looks like he’s playing with a chip on his shoulder. He’s looking like a franchise player


Hey watch out now I bet you (some geek will com here and) crunch them numbers up somehow. Porter is the goat. Parker is bum Porter is goat. Portis, Meh. carry on folks. This is a wet dream hell even wesley freaking johnson had a good game after being shooked by Beard man a few years ago. I thought this dude was out the league. EG live to be GM another few years. Wiz Motto we are just that () close. :noway:
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Post#186 » by Dat2U » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:54 am

Cleveland and Chicago. That's all I gotta say.
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Re: GT #56: Wizards @ Bulls 8 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) - Otto Porter Revenge Night? 

Post#187 » by Eli Babak » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:22 am

Yay, a win against team that has no bench (and they lost second half 58-64 :P). Let's see how they do against real opponents.

I wanted to throw up when I watched the replay. There was a clip from Ernie interview regarding Porter trade and he said something like "we have to think long-term" etc. Yeah, right. What about trading 2014/2016/2017 1sts for nothing and dumping 2nds like a maniac... Oh, I forgot, they have a G-League team now so that replaces second round in the draft and Ernie can go home early.
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Re: GT #56: Wizards @ Bulls 8 PM (NBCSW/1500 AM) - Otto Porter Revenge Night? 

Post#188 » by thebigE » Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:50 pm

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NatP4 wrote:Portis rim protection has been outstanding in this game.
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Post#189 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:22 pm

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NatP4 wrote:Portis rim protection has been outstanding in this game.
The people who don't know are learning.

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Post#190 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:25 pm

Dat2U wrote:Cleveland and Chicago. That's all I gotta say.
The next three road games pretty much determine the playoff hopes.

The Wizards need at least 1 win.

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Post#191 » by tontoz » Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:53 pm

Watched some of the game. Parkers speed definitely surprised me.

Hard to say if he is actually any good though. He has been through 2 major knee surgeries so i am not sure how much can be gleaned from his career numbers. Time will tell i guess.

They flashed a stat about Lavine averaging 24/5/5 in the last 10 games or whatever like that was a noteworthy accomplishment, which is what Beal is averaging on the season.
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Post#192 » by NatP4 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:03 pm

I’d be a lot more excited about this team’s direction if Troy Brown jr was a big part of the rotation. The talent level is still not good enough
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Post#193 » by montestewart » Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:33 pm

tontoz wrote:Watched some of the game. Parkers speed definitely surprised me.

Hard to say if he is actually any good though. He has been through 2 major knee surgeries so i am not sure how much can be gleaned from his career numbers. Time will tell i guess.

They flashed a stat about Lavine averaging 24/5/5 in the last 10 games or whatever like that was a noteworthy accomplishment, which is what Beal is averaging on the season.

It's not that far off what Lavine has been averaging (23+, 4+, 4+). "Over the last 10 games, Lavine has been averaging marginally above his season average." It's like when they do the, "Over the last 40 years, the only players that have averaged 16.5 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 4.5 apg, 2.5 spg, and 1.5 bpg over the first 13 games of the season are LeBron James, Magic Johnson, Hakeem Olajuwan, Larry Bird, Charles Barkley, and Nebbish Schmuck."

These are the trivialities stats that people who don't understand numbers think people who understand both numbers and basketball waste their time on, because to them it's all numbers, and basketball is about more than numbers (they say without reference to the final score).

Parker and Portis are both 23. They may be what they are over the long haul, especially on defense, but that's young enough that things could change. 30 games to check it out.
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Post#194 » by penbeast0 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:02 pm

Offseason, I'd be very leery of paying either big money and long term guaranteed, especially with player options. The other thing with Ernie, possibly even worse than his trading and drafting, is his habit of trying to get "his guys" signed long terms to deals where he's not competing against anyone for their services but still ends up paying above market.
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Post#195 » by trast66 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:09 pm

I can’t tell if you all are trolling or not. I’m keeping the names of those who think the franchise has turned around, we should resign Parker and/or Portis, and want Dwight Howard back. They are as easily misguided as Ted. I would think this is one of the places where would find fairly clued in fan base. If that is the case it’s no wonder EG allowed to stay around for generations without a fan revolt. Shame.
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Post#196 » by JWizmentality » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:17 pm

I don't think anyone here is proclaiming we've turned around. We're most likely headed for a reality check but for the time being they are fun to watch. And Parker and Portis are decent players. Live a little. It's not like we have much to be excited about.
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Post#197 » by montestewart » Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:33 pm

penbeast0 wrote:Offseason, I'd be very leery of paying either big money and long term guaranteed, especially with player options. The other thing with Ernie, possibly even worse than his trading and drafting, is his habit of trying to get "his guys" signed long terms to deals where he's not competing against anyone for their services but still ends up paying above market.

Compare EGgo's one-season rebuilds with the long term strategies of successful teams. Just fill out the ol' lineup with stat stuffing 1st round picks from other teams and prepare for a new round of excuses.

On January 17th, and again January 31st, Terd told everyone he was not breaking up the core. If he really believed that core was too good to break up, why the the panicked rush to break it up when Wall's injury became clear just days later? if he didn't really feel the core was that good, does he really believe that EGgo shuffling the deck will make it good?

It really doesn't matter how good Parkport is. If they're good enough to make believers of us all, there's still EGgo's track record of capping out and locking in mediocrity. Lots of moving parts to this potential wreck.
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Post#198 » by Dat2U » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:50 pm

NatP4 wrote:I’d be a lot more excited about this team’s direction if Troy Brown jr was a big part of the rotation. The talent level is still not good enough


How bad is he looking in practice that he can't even beat out former G-leaguers for minutes?

I know its Brooks were talking about here but still I'm getting a little worried.
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Post#199 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:56 pm

TheFinishSniper wrote:
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TheFinishSniper wrote:You got nothing. I am really telling you dont expect anything from Parker. Portis is good one. That's the guy who will play day and night with same energy. But Jabari is fake as fake you can be. Feel free to quote me in few weeks.


The salt is strong. Why so bitter buddy? Move on.

Salt about what? About losing. I am great with it. Salt about losing Bobby? Take care of him. Hope you pay him what he asks. Jabari? You will know real Jabari real soon. Dont shoot the messenger. I warned you. Trust me I was there where you were now when Bucks fans were coming he sucks.



I'm going to start a thread, if it hasn't already been started, with questions about each Wizard that Washington might want to retain. HOW MUCH and HOW to keep the good ones. Portis is definitely a keeper.

Parker? I expect there's plenty of data to show his tendencies. However, I also KNOW this is new opportunity and he's also older, wiser, and HEALTHIER than before. No pressure on him and BETTER TEAMMATES around him for the most part. Coach Budenholzer wasn't always he coach. Wasn't Jason Kidd Parker's Milwaukee coach? I could be mistaken.

Regardless, Washington will get the best effort Parker. He looked GREAT beating his old team.
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Post#200 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:05 am

NatP4 wrote:I’d be a lot more excited about this team’s direction if Troy Brown jr was a big part of the rotation. The talent level is still not good enough


I like the following box scores, because they also show the depth chart and team leaders, as well as FIC score.

RealGm's box score February 6: Wizards 129, Bucks 148
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/boxscore/2019-02-06/Washington-at-Milwaukee/309601

February 8: Wizards 119. Cavaliers 106
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/boxscore/2019-02-08/Cleveland-at-Washington/309614

February 9: Wizards 134, Bulls 125
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/boxscore/2019-02-09/Washington-at-Chicago/309625
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