Gilbert Arenas and Lou Williams with shots fired on 90's and 70's eras

[SkyBill40]

You put somebody 40lbs less, it's not going to be a fight. It's going to be a beat down.

Look how Demare Carroll did on Lebron. He got lit up at 215.

Actually, that's not always true. Looks at Rodman as a prime example of just how flawed your position on this happens to be. He regularly guarded and out rebounded players significantly larger than him in both mass and height, all with guile, skill, and intelligence. You're vastly overvaluing physical attributes and shorting intangibles. That's perfectly fine to do, but it's pretty narrow and regularly proven to be contradictory.

Yeah, but you're splitting hairs here.

9 out of 10 times im taking the guy with 40lb advantage. He just has to lean on him to win.

I'm not splitting hairs. I'm being honest about all the facets of a professional basketball player and not focusing on one aspect over another. One can choose to see either narrowly or objectively and you're focusing more on the former than the latter. Why? Just because someone is big doesn't mean they're good. I mean look at Ryan Hollins on ESPN: Dude's a legit 7 feet tall... and played on 9 teams in 10 seasons. With that height, he should've done more than what he managed. Or Eddy Curry? Or Kwame Brown? Or any host of other players who washed out despite having decent physical attributes? Why didn't they? Because they lacked in other areas and couldn't make up for it with intangibles.

Stop over valuing physical size as the end all metric. There's far more to it than that.

[MrPerfect1]

That disrespect to Rodman.
I bet prime Rodman would still average 14 rpg in today's league. I mean if Westbrook can get 10+ rpg then so can Rodman.

I do agree with the Lebron in '75 though - he'd wreck the league. I'm doubtful about the 15 chips although I'm sure that was hyperbole on Lou's part.

Lebron would be amazing in any era. However, he at times struggled against Roy Hibbert in the playoffs. Imagine him in eras with actual multiple Hall of Fame Centers.

[SkyBill40]

bruh, 45 and still posting memes and chit. I hope im still that cool when old and bald

Oh, and I'm not bald, by the way. Gray, yes; bald, no. Uh... thanks.. I guess?

Or was that a low key slight?

[SweetTouch]

LOL @ Leborn in the pre-3pt era, with bigs clogging the paint.

The Cleveland cavaliers used to start games with Anderson varejao at center and Big Ben Wallace at power forward

[SweetTouch]

lmao. He's not wrong. Pippen opens himself up to this when he says he could shut down anybody in today's game. Bruh was a buck-90 back then; that aint guarding Lebron today

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Jordans primary defender in a playoff series. Man looks like a substitute teacher, lmfao. Mr dudikoff lookin azz

Seriously that guy defended Jordan

And Jordan didn’t score 100 points on him?

This guy looks like my Uber driver

[Showdown]

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Just like English, King and Dantley dominated. NOT. Thing about Pippen being guard is nonsense

[Ayt]

He's right on Pippen, he would be giving up 40 lbs to most the guys he would be defending.

He would get torched today. 210 lbs doesn't cut it any more.

Pippen was listed at 210 as a rookie. In his prime, his playing weight was 225.

Anyway, these takes are obviously terrible. Pippen would be a dominant defensive player today, perhaps even more so than during his playing days.

Obligatory Pippen defensive highlights video.

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[Collymore]

bruh, 45 and still posting memes and chit. I hope im still that cool when old and bald

Oh, and I'm not bald, by the way. Gray, yes; bald, no. Uh... thanks.. I guess?

Or was that a low key slight?

Nothing low key about that slight.

[flow]

Pippen would be a top 5 defender in today's game without question. This is silly. But it's Arenas after all. Rodman would still clean up the boards.

Rodman would be borderline unplayable on offense, nobody would guard him.

Rodman was a good offensive player.

On the break, he filled the lane with ease. In the halfcourt, he was very useful/crafty & intelligent.

You don't have to shoot the ball to be a good offensive player.

[SkyBill40]

*Dumb post is dumb.*

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[mademan]

Oh, and I'm not bald, by the way. Gray, yes; bald, no. Uh... thanks.. I guess?

Or was that a low key slight?

Nothing low key about that slight.

It was weak and why I didn't give it any real attention in the first place. Why I bothered after the fact escapes me. Probably took him all day to come up with that as it were. It's cool though. He can have his moment in the light, dim as it is.

Damn dude, i was being genuine. Old people get boring AF; i was legit saying i want to still be talking chit on a forum and posting meme's for the lulz when im old

Slow it down, i didnt just diss u

[agkagk]

lmao. He's not wrong. Pippen opens himself up to this when he says he could shut down anybody in today's game. Bruh was a buck-90 back then; that aint guarding Lebron today

So Iggy can guard Lebron....but not Pippen???

Ya and don’t forget the time Dennis “the shooting guard” rodman did this:

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We play in the no touching era. The top guys from the early nineties would chew today’s players up.

[dhsilv2]

Pippen was more 220

Yea I thought of this too, that he was more like 220-230 probably. Hell, Jordan himself was 215-225 in his prime and on the Wizards more like 240.

Jordan bulked in the mid 90's and was really the first nba player to really use weight lifting (PEDs too likely) in season. For the most part the 90's was full of a lot of weaker small guys.

[flow]

Piston Rodman would have Lebron so shook, picking him up on the perimeter. Offensive charges & turnovers for days.

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[SkyBill40]

*Similarly dumb post is dumb*

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[cjx]

Lebron in the 70s would be a mix of George McGinnis and Elgin Baylor, book it!

[DavidSterned]

Everyone who entered the NBA before 2000 was a 5'11 unathletic milk man.

Vince Carter is an interesting case in that he grew eight inches and was then able to quit his day job shortly after the turn of the century, hence why he manages to play in this era.

[SkyBill40]

Everyone who entered the NBA before 2000 was a 5'11 unathletic milk man.

Vince Carter is an interesting case in that he grew eight inches and was then able to quit his day job shortly after the turn of the century, hence why he manages to play in this era.

That's so pathetically laughable it's almost not worth the comment... unless you're truly being sarcastic... which rarely, if ever, translates well across plain text.

Did you quote someone and forget to make it shown as such? Or is this an original statement?

[DavidSterned]

Everyone who entered the NBA before 2000 was a 5'11 unathletic milk man.

Vince Carter is an interesting case in that he grew eight inches and was then able to quit his day job shortly after the turn of the century, hence why he manages to play in this era.

That's so pathetically laughable it's almost not worth the comment... unless you're truly being sarcastic... which rarely, if ever, translates well across plain text.

Did you quote someone and forget to make it shown as such? Or is this an original statement?

Kiki Vandeweghe and Jerome Kersey actually used to deliver milk to my dad when he was living in Portland in the 80s. And an uncle of mine near Milwaukee was on Marques Johnson's paper route. He apparently was kind of clumsy and uncoordinated so he would crash his bike a lot.

[Showdown]

Lebron fans always have same argumens against players from previous era's :

1) Racial profiling - oh they were white which means they can' defend
2) Ageism - it's just nostalgia, everything today is better
3) Ignorance - power forward's were 6'4