Woj: Celtics/Jaylen Brown agree to four-year, $115M million extension

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Re: Woj: Celtics/Jaylen Brown agree to four-year, $115M million extension 

Post#181 » by ajones9219 » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:52 pm

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ajones9219 wrote:Jaylen Brown is literally approaching most underrated player in the league status on this board


Underrated?

13 ppg, 4 reb, 1 ast

$115M

The Boston homerism itt is honestly fascinating. Like I feel you could probably conduct a scientific experiment wherein you move the Celtics to another city and replace them with an expansion team, just to test the hypothesis that regional sport fandoms are truly equivalent to modern day tribes. How many Boston fans would think JB is worth this money then? Would they still defend Ainge? Do they even give a **** at that point and just focus on their current franchise? Legit helping me distract myself from the Zion news :)


lol can't speak for others but i've been a Brown stan since college so
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Re: Woj: Celtics/Jaylen Brown agree to four-year, $115M million extension 

Post#182 » by GoCeltics123 » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:52 pm

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Buzzard wrote:That is funny. Atlanta just invested two top 10 picks in wings this season. No way they chase Brown in free agency next year. Now if there is a decent center available, that is a whole nother can of worms.

Going to take our insider's word over yours...he said you guys were prepared to.

Even if not you guys, our insider mentioned Cleveland being a team that would also


Either Jaylen Brown's agent is very clever or Ainge is extremely gullible.

Or you just don't want to accept what our guy reload says. It's all good man if you don't and just want to blindly hate on Ainge, like most of the GB does anyway
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Re: Woj: Celtics/Jaylen Brown agree to four-year, $115M million extension 

Post#183 » by Funcrusher » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:55 pm

ajones9219 wrote:
Funcrusher wrote:
infinite11285 wrote:
Underrated?

13 ppg, 4 reb, 1 ast

$115M

The Boston homerism itt is honestly fascinating. Like I feel you could probably conduct a scientific experiment wherein you move the Celtics to another city and replace them with an expansion team, just to test the hypothesis that regional sport fandoms are truly equivalent to modern day tribes. How many Boston fans would think JB is worth this money then? Would they still defend Ainge? Do they even give a **** at that point and just focus on their current franchise? Legit helping me distract myself from the Zion news :)


lol can't speak for others but i've been a Brown stan since college so

well damn. i respect the dedication
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Re: Woj: Celtics/Jaylen Brown agree to four-year, $115M million extension 

Post#184 » by GrandTheftRondo » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:56 pm

Pinkyring wrote:What's the motivation to give this awful deal now? He'd have to be a legit all star to command 30m a year and he's barely an above average starter. I'm just befuddled

Lock him in before giving him the chance to have a big year and therefore save the team money. Tha Ta one possibility.

Secondly, the Celtics season was completely derailed last year by Kyrie Irving and a number of other factors. Brown not having an extension absolutely would have become a big talking point and most likely a distraction.
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Re: Woj: Boston Celtics forward Jaylen Brown has agreed to a four-year, $115M million contract extension 

Post#185 » by MagicBagley18 » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:56 pm

DaT WaVeY RiCaN wrote:
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DaT WaVeY RiCaN wrote:Wheres the lie tho?


The lie is horford top free agent in 2016 behind KD, Hayward top free agent in his free agent class, kemba all nba player and a top free agent.

So that’s 3 all star players that have openly committed to being in Boston willingly . Meanwhile your Knicks gave up KP to sign Bobby portis and Marcus Morris (who the Celtics let leave btw)

While we aren’t the lakers or Miami attracting free agents and that’s unfortunate the good news is we aren’t the Knicks- who couldn’t even get a meeting with Durant this summer (Celtics did in 16) or kawhi or kemba whose from nyc.

And we know we know “the knicks didn’t wanna meet with them” that’s like the dude who never had a chance with a chick getting rejected and then calling her names because he’s insecure.

Of course you’re gonna get B level free agents when you throwing out 4 year max contracts

Thats the exact reason why Knicks been so trash. By over paying players that simply arent worth it. Lol idk why its so hard for you to admit that Ainge is operating as a small market team

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Also are you really that uneducated about how much tampering went on this free agency? You can’t seriously use that “Knicks didnt get a meeting” nonsense Lol Kemba was a Celtic before free agency even began. With your logic I guess most of the free agents didnt even get a proper meeting. Everything changed after that Achilles injury.


Except Hayward picked us over Miami and pat riley, horford picked us over other places including Houston and Washington and your missing the entire point ; horford and Hayward were the top free agents that summer and Boston landed them. They had choices to go elsewhere and chose Boston.

Hayward was absolutely worth a max deal before his injury and nots even close. Horford the same.

Who cares if tampering went on or didn’t? The whole league does it. your dumbass owner went on the radio and guaranteed a huge free agency and got zero and if tampering went on why didn’t the knicks partake?

your calling Boston working like a small market then in the next breathe say “kemba was done before free agency” well why wouldn’t he listen to your Knicks instead of Boston?

The point is while Boston will never compare with the lakers or other top destinations, they aren’t as bad as you claim and in 3 summer of free agency have landed a top name. That’s more then you guys have ever done.

What does AD Have to do with anything? Yes ad didn’t want Boston. OK? but the point is we landed free agents like Hayward like horford like kemba who may not be the a+ tier but it’s alot better than other teams free agent signings historically and most def anything your Knicks did and your over here talking about a player you didn’t even trade for like it’s something to be proud of.
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Re: Woj: Celtics/Jaylen Brown agree to four-year, $115M million extension 

Post#186 » by ajones9219 » Mon Oct 21, 2019 9:58 pm

Kawhi Leonard in 3rd year: 12.8 PPG/ 1.2 RB/ 2 assists
Brown in third year: 13 PPG/ 4.2 RB/ 1.4 assists

But yeah we can totally tell if a player is going to be any good based off raw stats in their third year and Brown is a bum.
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Post#187 » by Homerclease » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:00 pm

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BeatDaCavs420 wrote:Correction. We love it because it's so bad lol

Correction. The GB is wrong 99.9% of the time and everyone knows it


Like with Kyrie leaving?

How’s he doing on the Knicks anyway?
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Post#188 » by GrandTheftRondo » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:01 pm

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bisme37 wrote:With so few free agents next summer, someone would have maxed him.

Read on Twitter

Then so be it. The fact that other teams would have overpaid this summer as well still doesn't make it a great deal.

So what? The Celtics should just give up on players they draft and believe in long term? What kind of garbage logic is this?

The Celtics aren’t contending while they’ve got the current front court they do so this deal isn’t crippling the franchise if Brown doesn’t improve.

It’s a gamble on a young player with potential for growth at a time when the Celtics have limited options for big improvement. Thanks to what has transpired in the last 18 months Tatum and Brown are their path to contending.
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Re: Woj: Celtics/Jaylen Brown agree to four-year, $115M million extension 

Post#189 » by HoopsterJones » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:01 pm

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HoopsterJones wrote:
Homerclease wrote:Correction. The GB is wrong 99.9% of the time and everyone knows it


Like with Kyrie leaving?

How’s he doing on the Knicks anyway?


How’s the crow y’all had to eat?
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Post#190 » by Buzzard » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:02 pm

GoCeltics123 wrote:
manlisten wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:Going to take our insider's word over yours...he said you guys were prepared to.

Even if not you guys, our insider mentioned Cleveland being a team that would also


Either Jaylen Brown's agent is very clever or Ainge is extremely gullible.

Or you just don't want to accept what our guy reload says. It's all good man if you don't and just want to blindly hate on Ainge, like most of the GB does anyway

You really do not understand Hawks GM/President Travis Schlenk if you believe anyone telling you he was going to chase Brown with a max. He traded Taurean Prince; and then drafted two wings in the top 10 just so he would not have to deal with this kind of foolishness in the near future.
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Re: Woj: Celtics/Jaylen Brown agree to four-year, $115M million extension 

Post#191 » by Homerclease » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:04 pm

HoopsterJones wrote:
Homerclease wrote:
HoopsterJones wrote:
Like with Kyrie leaving?

How’s he doing on the Knicks anyway?


How’s the crow y’all had to eat?

Not bad since we got Kemba to give it some flavor
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Re: Woj: Celtics/Jaylen Brown agree to four-year, $115M million extension 

Post#192 » by GrandTheftRondo » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:05 pm

ajones9219 wrote:Kawhi Leonard in 3rd year: 12.8 PPG/ 1.2 RB/ 2 assists
Brown in third year: 13 PPG/ 4.2 RB/ 1.4 assists

But yeah we can totally tell if a player is going to be any good based off raw stats in their third year and Brown is a bum.

Yeh it’s pretty hilarious. Kawhi was already an amazing defender from his rookie season essentially so I’m not comparing them there.

But I do wonder if some RealGM critics ever remember what some of the young athletic wings were like in their early days. Paul George and Jimmy Butler were raw as.

As for Kawhi, this dude hit corner threes and meshed well with the Spurs offence. But even as a big fan of his I didn’t think by his mid 20s he’d be this go to scorer who could even start to create some shots for others. His current handle and passing game is leaps and bounds better than it was in his first few years.

Does that mean the same thing will happen to Brown? Nobody knows. But to act like Brown is guaranteed to be the same player as he is now as he matures is just flat out garbage. We simply don’t know.
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Post#193 » by iLLmatic860 » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:07 pm

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DaT WaVeY RiCaN wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
The lie is horford top free agent in 2016 behind KD, Hayward top free agent in his free agent class, kemba all nba player and a top free agent.

So that’s 3 all star players that have openly committed to being in Boston willingly . Meanwhile your Knicks gave up KP to sign Bobby portis and Marcus Morris (who the Celtics let leave btw)

While we aren’t the lakers or Miami attracting free agents and that’s unfortunate the good news is we aren’t the Knicks- who couldn’t even get a meeting with Durant this summer (Celtics did in 16) or kawhi or kemba whose from nyc.

And we know we know “the knicks didn’t wanna meet with them” that’s like the dude who never had a chance with a chick getting rejected and then calling her names because he’s insecure.

Of course you’re gonna get B level free agents when you throwing out 4 year max contracts

Thats the exact reason why Knicks been so trash. By over paying players that simply arent worth it. Lol idk why its so hard for you to admit that Ainge is operating as a small market team

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Also are you really that uneducated about how much tampering went on this free agency? You can’t seriously use that “Knicks didnt get a meeting” nonsense Lol Kemba was a Celtic before free agency even began. With your logic I guess most of the free agents didnt even get a proper meeting. Everything changed after that Achilles injury.


Except Hayward picked us over Miami and pat riley, horford picked us over other places including Houston and Washington and your missing the entire point ; horford and Hayward were the top free agents that summer and Boston landed them. They had choices to go elsewhere and chose Boston.

Hayward was absolutely worth a max deal before his injury and nots even close. Horford the same.

Who cares if tampering went on or didn’t? The whole league does it. your dumbass owner went on the radio and guaranteed a huge free agency and got zero and if tampering went on why didn’t the knicks partake?

your calling Boston working like a small market then in the next breathe say “kemba was done before free agency” well why wouldn’t he listen to your Knicks instead of Boston?

The point is while Boston will never compare with the lakers or other top destinations, they aren’t as bad as you claim and in 3 summer of free agency have landed a top name. That’s more then you guys have ever done.

What does AD Have to do with anything? Yes ad didn’t want Boston. OK? but the point is we landed free agents like Hayward like horford like kemba who may not be the a+ tier but it’s alot better than other teams free agent signings historically and most def anything your Knicks did and your over here talking about a player you didn’t even trade for like it’s something to be proud of.

Lmao why tf would we want Kemba?

“The New York Knicks are reportedly only willing to sign three players to a max contract this offseason.

According to Marc Berman of the New York Post, Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving and Kawhi Leonard are the players the Knicks view as being worthy of max deals.

Berman noted that the only way the Knicks would sign a player like guard Kemba Walker to a max contract is if they also sign Durant and he requests that they sign Walker as well.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2842651-report-knicks-would-only-give-kevin-durant-kyrie-irving-kawhi-leonard-the-max.amp.html

We couldve easily maxxed out a B level free agent but we didnt go that route. Boston did.
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Re: Woj: Celtics/Jaylen Brown agree to four-year, $115M million extension 

Post#194 » by ajones9219 » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:08 pm

GrandTheftRondo wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:Kawhi Leonard in 3rd year: 12.8 PPG/ 1.2 RB/ 2 assists
Brown in third year: 13 PPG/ 4.2 RB/ 1.4 assists

But yeah we can totally tell if a player is going to be any good based off raw stats in their third year and Brown is a bum.

Yeh it’s pretty hilarious. Kawhi was already an amazing defender from his rookie season essentially so I’m not comparing them there.

But I do wonder if some RealGM critics ever remember what some of the young athletic wings were like in their early days. Paul George and Jimmy Butler were raw as.

As for Kawhi, this dude hit corner threes and meshed well with the Spurs offence. But even as a big fan of his I didn’t think by his mid 20s he’d be this go to scorer who could even start to create some shots for others. His current handle and passing game is leaps and bounds better than it was in his first few years.

Does that mean the same thing will happen to Brown? Nobody knows. But to act like Brown is guaranteed to be the same player as he is now as he matures is just flat out garbage. We simply don’t know.


Exactly. Brown is no bum defensively either. He also is a team player and seems to never cause problems. He struggled the first month last year then balled out. Easy choice to bring him back
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Post#195 » by Pinkyring » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:08 pm

GrandTheftRondo wrote:
Pinkyring wrote:What's the motivation to give this awful deal now? He'd have to be a legit all star to command 30m a year and he's barely an above average starter. I'm just befuddled

Lock him in before giving him the chance to have a big year and therefore save the team money. Tha Ta one possibility.

Secondly, the Celtics season was completely derailed last year by Kyrie Irving and a number of other factors. Brown not having an extension absolutely would have become a big talking point and most likely a distraction.
then trade him, he'd have to be a 25ppg guy to earn that money since he doesn't give u much anywhere else and is an average shooter. Teams giving big extension's to role players over trading them is sbsurd
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Post#196 » by MagicBagley18 » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:11 pm

DaT WaVeY RiCaN wrote:
MagicBagley18 wrote:
DaT WaVeY RiCaN wrote:Of course you’re gonna get B level free agents when you throwing out 4 year max contracts

Thats the exact reason why Knicks been so trash. By over paying players that simply arent worth it. Lol idk why its so hard for you to admit that Ainge is operating as a small market team

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Also are you really that uneducated about how much tampering went on this free agency? You can’t seriously use that “Knicks didnt get a meeting” nonsense Lol Kemba was a Celtic before free agency even began. With your logic I guess most of the free agents didnt even get a proper meeting. Everything changed after that Achilles injury.


Except Hayward picked us over Miami and pat riley, horford picked us over other places including Houston and Washington and your missing the entire point ; horford and Hayward were the top free agents that summer and Boston landed them. They had choices to go elsewhere and chose Boston.

Hayward was absolutely worth a max deal before his injury and nots even close. Horford the same.

Who cares if tampering went on or didn’t? The whole league does it. your dumbass owner went on the radio and guaranteed a huge free agency and got zero and if tampering went on why didn’t the knicks partake?

your calling Boston working like a small market then in the next breathe say “kemba was done before free agency” well why wouldn’t he listen to your Knicks instead of Boston?

The point is while Boston will never compare with the lakers or other top destinations, they aren’t as bad as you claim and in 3 summer of free agency have landed a top name. That’s more then you guys have ever done.

What does AD Have to do with anything? Yes ad didn’t want Boston. OK? but the point is we landed free agents like Hayward like horford like kemba who may not be the a+ tier but it’s alot better than other teams free agent signings historically and most def anything your Knicks did and your over here talking about a player you didn’t even trade for like it’s something to be proud of.

Lmao why tf would we want Kemba?

“The New York Knicks are reportedly only willing to sign three players to a max contract this offseason.

According to Marc Berman of the New York Post, Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving and Kawhi Leonard are the players the Knicks view as being worthy of max deals.

Berman noted that the only way the Knicks would sign a player like guard Kemba Walker to a max contract is if they also sign Durant and he requests that they sign Walker as well.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2842651-report-knicks-would-only-give-kevin-durant-kyrie-irving-kawhi-leonard-the-max.amp.html

We couldve easily maxxed out a B level free agent but we didnt go that route. Boston did.


No instead you traded away your actually franchise star for cap space to sign Bobby portis, Morris and Julius Randle, what a **** a splash man
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Re: Woj: Celtics/Jaylen Brown agree to four-year, $115M million extension 

Post#197 » by GrandTheftRondo » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:12 pm

Pinkyring wrote:
GrandTheftRondo wrote:
Pinkyring wrote:What's the motivation to give this awful deal now? He'd have to be a legit all star to command 30m a year and he's barely an above average starter. I'm just befuddled

Lock him in before giving him the chance to have a big year and therefore save the team money. Tha Ta one possibility.

Secondly, the Celtics season was completely derailed last year by Kyrie Irving and a number of other factors. Brown not having an extension absolutely would have become a big talking point and most likely a distraction.
then trade him, he'd have to be a 25ppg guy to earn that money since he doesn't give u much anywhere else and is an average shooter. Teams giving big extension's to role players over trading them is sbsurd

Why trade someone Ainge clearly believes in?

The Celtics aren’t a genuine contender right now. They’ve got big money locked up with Kemba and Hayward. Tatum and Brown becoming high level players is their path to contending.
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Post#198 » by druggas » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:13 pm

Lot of damage control in this thread.
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Post#199 » by John Murdoch » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:15 pm

This is the equivilant of giving Al Faruq Aminu 100mill
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Post#200 » by CraftylikeaFox » Mon Oct 21, 2019 10:16 pm

infinite11285 wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:Jaylen Brown is literally approaching most underrated player in the league status on this board


Underrated?

13 ppg, 4 reb, 1 ast

$115M


Also 34% 3p shooting and 66% ft shooting.

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