Lunartic wrote:MrSparkle wrote:Prettyconspiracy theorists put in major administration roles.
This Hydroxychloroquine/Zinc fake-news debacle is just another headache to deal with. It's one thing for doctors in desperate situations (like NY or Italy) to try the cocktail as a last-resort measure for patients with very dangerous COVID symptoms (and who also don't have heart issues which make the drug potentially lethal), but to pedal it into the "fanbase" with super small-sample field studies (36 people for christ's sake, not randomized, and a lop-sided control group, in that French "study") by what appear to be mostly "maverick" quack doctors (look up these guys, the "LA Doctor", Zelensky, Raoult). Their credentials are extremely suspicious while they contradict the statements by almost every prominent infectious disease expert.
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What are you talking about?
Hydrochloriquine is already being used all over the world including South Korea (doctors there have credited it with their low death rate) The USA is using it in NY as well.
You're spreading false information.
Hydrochloriquine is obviously not going to cure everyone but there is great efficacy in using it combined with an antibiotic.
I understand you believing that Trump might be shilling it in order to restore hope in curbing Covid deaths but why would the French President and China and South Korea, India, Japan and multiple other countries be using it to great effect?
I would like to see some verification of your claim that "the French President and China and South Korea, India, Japan and multiple other countries be using it to great effect".
This article from UK's Guardian, goes into the hype around this possible treatment, including debunking the original French study that put it on the map: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/06/hydroxychloroquine-trump-coronavirus-drug.
"But even more important than these shortcomings in the design of the study is how the researchers chose to measure and report their results. Forty-two patients were initially included in the study. Three were transferred to the intensive care unit; one died, one left the hospital, and one stopped taking the treatment due to nausea. The other 36 eventually recovered, and those who received the drug cleared the virus from the system faster than those who did not.
If you had only heard about this study from the Fox News assertion of a “100% cure rate”, you might assume that the four patients with poor clinical outcomes (the three ICU visits and one death) had been unlucky enough to be in the group that did not receive the “cure”.
And yet, those four patients, as well as the patient with nausea and the one who left the hospital early, were all part of the treatment group. They were excluded from the topline results of the study because of the way that the researchers chose to measure and report the results: strictly based on the measurable presence of viruses in nasal swabs taken each day of the study. Since the patients were in the ICU or dead, their samples could not be taken and they were left out of the final analysis. Based on the nasal swabs of just the 36 patients who completed the study, those who received the drug cleared the virus from their systems faster than those who did not.
This is how an experiment in which 15% of the treatment group and 0% of the control had poor clinical outcomes could end up being reported as showing a “100% cure rate”."























