Shams: Dame Lillard, Blazers Close to 2-Yr/$120M Max Extension

[flow]

I don’t blame Lillard. As for people who think he should take a paycut, how much less should he take and what specifically does Portland do with those savings to make a contender around him? Blazers are poised to be over the cap those years even if he took say $20M less per season. So his options as far as contacts while staying in Portland really were $60M per year with a mediocre roster, $40M per year with probably the same mediocre roster, or an absolutely looney paycut to stay below the cap to hope Portland can trade for a star which is still a long shot. Taking the max is the only reasonable option there.

That's fine. Just tell him to put a sock in his passive aggressive cries for help, then.

[Ruma85]

Tough times for Blazers fans man I feel for y’all. I dug those Adleman teams and Brandon Roy was the man.

Fun fact: This upcoming season Lilliard is making more than twice what Terry Porter made in his career. Terry Porter had 7 career triple doubles. Lilliard has 1.

The blazers paid him $3M as a rookie to lead the league in minutes. Now they have to pay $60M when it’s literally impossible for him to lead the league in anything. Add in the possibility that Hart, Payton, and Grant are all gonna hate playing with a dude who never screens, cuts, or defends (and makes $18M more than they do combined) and it’s gonna get ugly sooner than later.

Can you recall dame ever having problems with his teammates because i don't.

[flow]

Tough times for Blazers fans man I feel for y’all. I dug those Adleman teams and Brandon Roy was the man.

Fun fact: This upcoming season Lilliard is making more than twice what Terry Porter made in his career. Terry Porter had 7 career triple doubles. Lilliard has 1.

The blazers paid him $3M as a rookie to lead the league in minutes. Now they have to pay $60M when it’s literally impossible for him to lead the league in anything. Add in the possibility that Hart, Payton, and Grant are all gonna hate playing with a dude who never screens, cuts, or defends (and makes $18M more than they do combined) and it’s gonna get ugly sooner than later.

Can you recall dame ever having problems with his teammates because i don't.

Can you recall Dame ever making a teammate better? Ever helping a teammate excel?

McCollum played like a man unchained once he got to New Orleans.

[Ruma85]

Tough times for Blazers fans man I feel for y’all. I dug those Adleman teams and Brandon Roy was the man.

Fun fact: This upcoming season Lilliard is making more than twice what Terry Porter made in his career. Terry Porter had 7 career triple doubles. Lilliard has 1.

The blazers paid him $3M as a rookie to lead the league in minutes. Now they have to pay $60M when it’s literally impossible for him to lead the league in anything. Add in the possibility that Hart, Payton, and Grant are all gonna hate playing with a dude who never screens, cuts, or defends (and makes $18M more than they do combined) and it’s gonna get ugly sooner than later.

Can you recall dame ever having problems with his teammates because i don't.

Can you recall Dame ever making a teammate better? Ever helping a teammate excel?

McCollum played like a man unchained once he got to New Orleans.

Coaches run the sets, also the last 3 seasons his ats per game is 7.5,8,7.5.

[BlazersBroncos]

Tough times for Blazers fans man I feel for y’all. I dug those Adleman teams and Brandon Roy was the man.

Fun fact: This upcoming season Lilliard is making more than twice what Terry Porter made in his career. Terry Porter had 7 career triple doubles. Lilliard has 1.

The blazers paid him $3M as a rookie to lead the league in minutes. Now they have to pay $60M when it’s literally impossible for him to lead the league in anything. Add in the possibility that Hart, Payton, and Grant are all gonna hate playing with a dude who never screens, cuts, or defends (and makes $18M more than they do combined) and it’s gonna get ugly sooner than later.

Can you recall dame ever having problems with his teammates because i don't.

Can you recall Dame ever making a teammate better? Ever helping a teammate excel?

McCollum played like a man unchained once he got to New Orleans.

CJ was a bit better in NO but unchained is an overstatement.

[og15]

He had one bad season in 10 years after not being able to ignore an injury he's been suffering from for 4 years and people think he's washed. His contract can't be more than 35% of the cap which is what he's making now. Steph will be 35 next season and he just won a fmvp. Does anyone actually use logic on here anymore? Sure it would be great if taking a pay cut meant being able to sign another star but no one wants to come here anyways. Harden, KD, LeBron etc all structured their deals so they could team up.

Max contracts start at 35% of the cap, but with the yearly raises, they generally end up being more than 35% of the cap after the first season of the contract, and similarly when getting an extension of a previous max contract, they are easily more than 35% of the cap.

[Myth]

Tough times for Blazers fans man I feel for y’all. I dug those Adleman teams and Brandon Roy was the man.

Fun fact: This upcoming season Lilliard is making more than twice what Terry Porter made in his career. Terry Porter had 7 career triple doubles. Lilliard has 1.

The blazers paid him $3M as a rookie to lead the league in minutes. Now they have to pay $60M when it’s literally impossible for him to lead the league in anything. Add in the possibility that Hart, Payton, and Grant are all gonna hate playing with a dude who never screens, cuts, or defends (and makes $18M more than they do combined) and it’s gonna get ugly sooner than later.

Can you recall dame ever having problems with his teammates because i don't.

Dame even won teammate of the year a couple years back.

[CobraCommander]

Real question for Portland fans that LIVE in Portland- is dame a Portland guy and is he really loved there? I spend time in Portland and I have heard that he isn’t really ever seen in the community and isn’t really loved by the basketball/hip hop heads in the city. Just curious cause Wall is loved In DC and part of the appeal of keeping him was because he is “our” guy

[Nonstop]

he isn’t really ever seen in the community and isn’t really loved by the basketball/hip hop heads in the city

Lol that’s false

[CobraCommander]

he isn’t really ever seen in the community and isn’t really loved by the basketball/hip hop heads in the city

Lol that’s false

Just asking- I was at an event run by IndexPDX and random people said Dame doesn’t “come thru”...as an outsider I was just curious-

[Case2012]

Another Dame thread looking like 4chan.

Good job Flow!! Cobra Commander, killing it bro!! Keep it up!!

[jokeboy86]

Only question I have is for Blazers fans. If Dame plays out this contract but never reaches the Finals or a conference final again would the loyalty and longevity make you put him over Drexler and Walton?

[falcolombardi]

At this pace Luka and Giannis going to be commanding 90 - 100 million a year


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If I'm Luka, I am asking for 100 mil per. Lillard isn't even a top 15 player based on last year and he's getting 60 mill? Nah fam. 100 mill.

That is not how it works, a player can only be paid what the cba allows

[falcolombardi]

Only question I have is for Blazers fans. If Dame plays out this contract but never reaches the Finals or a conference final again would the loyalty and longevity make you put him over Drexler and Walton?

If i was a blazers fan i would think so

[jokeboy86]

Only question I have is for Blazers fans. If Dame plays out this contract but never reaches the Finals or a conference final again would the loyalty and longevity make you put him over Drexler and Walton?

If i was a blazers fan i would think so

See from an outside perspective I figured it would be a tough call because Walton led the team to a title(and has an MVP) and Drexler led the team to two Finals losing to two all-time teams in the process.

[levon]

This is a monumental waste of money.

[Myth]

Only question I have is for Blazers fans. If Dame plays out this contract but never reaches the Finals or a conference final again would the loyalty and longevity make you put him over Drexler and Walton?

As a favorite, yes. As a player, no.

[Courant]

Only question I have is for Blazers fans. If Dame plays out this contract but never reaches the Finals or a conference final again would the loyalty and longevity make you put him over Drexler and Walton?

In a word, no.

Clyde Drexler still is the all-time leader or in the top five in a lot of team categories despite leaving Portland nearly 30 years ago. He also led Portland to its greatest three-year streak of three consecutive Western Conference finals (1990-92) and two NBA Finals against two legendary squads (Bad Boy Pistons in 1990, Michael Jordan's Bulls in 1992). Drexler also was MVP runner-up to Jordan in 1992 and has the historical reference of being on the 1992 Dream Team (meaning he's been inducted into the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame twice).

Bill Walton led Portland to its first playoff appearance in 1977 and it culminated in the Blazers' sole NBA title, a win over the juggernaut Philadelphia 76ers team featuring Dr. J, George McGinnis and Doug Collins. Walton also was the league MVP the following season and the Blazers were 48-10 before he broke his foot.

Since Damian Lillard has been the top player since LaMarcus Aldridge left, Portland has been to the playoffs six times and eliminated in the first round four times. The Blazers never have been more than a team that had a second-round peak with Lillard as the best player. Even with the 2019 Western Conference finals team, it seemed like a second-round team that got a favorable break (won the tiebreaker with Houston to avoid Golden State in the early rounds), and the Blazers barely beat a young Denver team in the second round where C.J. McCollum led Portland from a large Game 7 deficit while Lillard went 3-for-17.

Also, from a historical sense, I regard Drexler as one of the top five or six shooting guards in NBA history. I don't believe anyone will look at Lillard as being one of the very best point guards in NBA history.

Walton is one of the great "What If?" stories in NBA history where Portland fans still think the Blazers could have won more titles with a healthy Walton. Walton also has been the poster child of Portland's laid-back, counterculture spirit for decades and always will be known for putting the TrailBlazers on the NBA map with the 1977 title. Lillard leading multiple teams to first-round exits and the 2019 team getting swept by Golden State can't compete with that.

[Blazing_royale]

Dame knows he ain't going to win a chip for a while now. Might as well do the best for his legacy and stay with Portland forever (at least makes a good feel story for himself for not winning a chip in his career)

[JRoy]

Tough times for Blazers fans man I feel for y’all. I dug those Adleman teams and Brandon Roy was the man.

Fun fact: This upcoming season Lilliard is making more than twice what Terry Porter made in his career. Terry Porter had 7 career triple doubles. Lilliard has 1.

The blazers paid him $3M as a rookie to lead the league in minutes. Now they have to pay $60M when it’s literally impossible for him to lead the league in anything. Add in the possibility that Hart, Payton, and Grant are all gonna hate playing with a dude who never screens, cuts, or defends (and makes $18M more than they do combined) and it’s gonna get ugly sooner than later.

Not sure what Terry Porter triple doubles have to do with anything. Lillard is twice the player he was.

You’ve got it exactly backwards; Hart, Payton, Grant were brought in to fit with Lillard, not vice versa.

I would have preferred to blow the whole thing up and start over but here we are.