GG Jackson Thread

[Catchall]

What skill gets him on an NBA court in year 1?


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Spotting up and cutting, I'd imagine. I'm not sure I'd expect much from him in year one, but it depends on the team and his development.

He's going to look much better on a spaced floor and with guards who can set him up. The problem he has is going 1-on-2 and having to self-create 20 feet out.

[EvanZ]

Guys who only shoot spot-up and have no other NBA skills have to shoot like 40%+. What’s his other thing that will get him on the court?


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[clyde21]

Guys who only shoot spot-up and have no other NBA skills have to shoot like 40%+. What’s his other thing that will get him on the court?


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same things that got Minga on the court his rookie year, or any other raw wing/combo forward?

but really the biggest thing that will get him on the court is that he needs to be on the court to develop. i'd hope he goes to a team/coaching staff that actually realizes that and gives him some leeway to do that.

[Hal14]

What skill gets him on an NBA court in year 1?


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Why does he have to get on a court in year 1? Guys like Kuminga, Ziaire and Ousmane Dieng (all lottery picks) spent most of their first season in the g league. Nothing wrong with that for GG, especially considering he should still be in HS right now.

I think he's a guy that a team takes in the 10-16 range. A team takes him because guys who are youngest player in draft, a guy at 6'9", decent athleticism, who can handle the ball, get to the rim, create his own shot, good footwork, can shoot off the catch or off the dribble, have fluidity and have shown flashes of scoring on all 3 levels, despite a horrible team context (no guards who can get him the ball, no shooters or scorers to help take the defensive pressure off him) guys like that don't grow on trees.

You don't expect much in year 1 but the long term upside is tantalizing. A team might take him if either:

a) rebuilding team with a big window to rebuild, no pressure to win right now so team can take its time developing him (like OKC taking Dieng)

b) A playoff team loaded with proven vets. So there's already the expectation that he won't get minutes in year 1 (or even year 2) because the team is loaded. Therefore, they can take it slow. No pressure on that player to get come in and be ready for mins right away because the team has no mins to give him. The team can afford to wait, be patient, develop him and once he's ready and has developed down in the g league into a guy who's now ready to actually contribute for a playoff team, he'll get his chance (like Kuminga)

[EvanZ]

What skill gets him on an NBA court in year 1?


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Why does he have to get on a court in year 1? Guys like Kuminga, Ziaire and Ousmane Dieng (all lottery picks) spent most of their first season in the g league. Nothing wrong with that for GG, especially considering he should still be in HS right now.

You have to get on a court to develop right? The three guys you pointed out are not exactly poster boys for incredible development btw. GG is so far from being a winning player.

[Hal14]

What skill gets him on an NBA court in year 1?


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Why does he have to get on a court in year 1? Guys like Kuminga, Ziaire and Ousmane Dieng (all lottery picks) spent most of their first season in the g league. Nothing wrong with that for GG, especially considering he should still be in HS right now.

You have to get on a court to develop right? The three guys you pointed out are not exactly poster boys for incredible development btw. GG is so far from being a winning player.

Yeah, the g league court (thought that was made pretty clear in my post, lol).

All players develop differently - makes no sense to say "oh those guys didn't develop so GG won't either". Not to mention, those 3 guys are all extremely young still, so it's way too soon to judge them..

[EvanZ]

Why does he have to get on a court in year 1? Guys like Kuminga, Ziaire and Ousmane Dieng (all lottery picks) spent most of their first season in the g league. Nothing wrong with that for GG, especially considering he should still be in HS right now.

You have to get on a court to develop right? The three guys you pointed out are not exactly poster boys for incredible development btw. GG is so far from being a winning player.

Yeah, the g league court (thought that was made pretty clear in my post, lol).

All players develop differently - makes no sense to say "oh those guys didn't develop so GG won't either". Not to mention, those 3 guys are all extremely young still, so it's way too soon to judge them..

I mean those are the 3 guys YOU mentioned.

Just a realization I've come to is that it's best to have something that can make you playable right away otherwise teams lose interest in development pretty quickly.

[clyde21]

that's more the team's fault than the player's, if you don't have long term vision for a player then take a 22 yr old and be done with it.

[Hal14]

You have to get on a court to develop right? The three guys you pointed out are not exactly poster boys for incredible development btw. GG is so far from being a winning player.

Yeah, the g league court (thought that was made pretty clear in my post, lol).

All players develop differently - makes no sense to say "oh those guys didn't develop so GG won't either". Not to mention, those 3 guys are all extremely young still, so it's way too soon to judge them..

I mean those are the 3 guys YOU mentioned.

Just a realization I've come to is that it's best to have something that can make you playable right away otherwise teams lose interest in development pretty quickly.

Yeah and I mentioned them because they were somewhat similar prospects where people may have asked the same question you asked about them prior to the draft - but they all went lottery anyways.

That's it. Only reason I said them - no need to read deeper into it. It had nothing to do with how they've developed in the NBA because it's way too early in their careers to judge that - and like Clyde says, a lot of the development is dependent on the team that drafts them doing a good enough job of developing them.

[Catchall]

GG might look like Amare Stoudemire did during his rookie season. It depends on the team he's on, the system they run and how he's used. Again, he's going to look entirely different if he has open looks and open space vs. having to force plays. His efficiency on open catch-and-shoot opportunities and open drives has actually been pretty good. Those opportunities have just been rare at South Carolina.

I guarantee you that Will Hardy can make GG effective. He's been doing it for guys like Jared Vanderbilt, Nickeil Alexander-Walker, Talen Horton-Tucker and now Kris Dunn. GG is much more offensively talented than those guys.

[EvanZ]

Kris Dunn has played 7 games this season.

[Catchall]

Kris Dunn has played 7 games this season.

Yeah, he had 12 pts, 9 rebs, 4 ast, 3 stls last night and will probably be signed for the rest of the season. The point is that the Jazz are picking up players from anywhere and playing them to their strengths. Dunn was out of the league.

The Jazz have maximized every player on their roster and can certainly do the same for someone as talented as GG.

[Catchall]

If I were a scout, I'd watch this 2-minute clip of an 18 year-old making high-level plays in the SEC and I'd feel comfortable drafting him in the top half of the 1st round. There's really nothing more to think about, other than the question of how coachable he is. You're drafting a prospect like this based on what you think they can be 3 years from now.

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[EvanZ]

If I were a scout, I'd watch this 2-minute clip of an 18 year-old making high-level plays in the SEC and I'd feel comfortable drafting him in the top half of the 1st round. There's really nothing more to think about, other than the question of how coachable he is. You're drafting a prospect like this based on what you think they can be 3 years from now.

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But you’re not a scout and now you’ve told us why you’d be a bad one.


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[Catchall]

If I were a scout, I'd watch this 2-minute clip of an 18 year-old making high-level plays in the SEC and I'd feel comfortable drafting him in the top half of the 1st round. There's really nothing more to think about, other than the question of how coachable he is. You're drafting a prospect like this based on what you think they can be 3 years from now.

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But you’re not a scout and now you’ve told us why you’d be a bad one.


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Yeah, GG is pretty easily a 1st-rd prospect who will go late lotto or mid-teens. Nice take there, bud.

[EvanZ]

My "take" was about how **** a scout you'd have to be to watch 2 minutes of highlights and conclude anything. That's probably how Wiseman got taken second though lol.

[Catchall]

My "take" was about how **** a scout you'd have to be to watch 2 minutes of highlights and conclude anything. That's probably how Wiseman got taken second though lol.

I've been watching GG closely since last summer when he jumped up a draft class.

[jezzerinho]

This year's leading candidate for the NBA "Fool's Gold" Award.

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GG entering the draft...

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[JMAC3]

He falls in the category of super talented, but I would rather have another team take a shot on him.

Michael Porter Jr was like that for me. Congrats on him working out, but to this day I still have concerns about his health.