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People are just misinformed. They still remember Booker from last year being a chucker and inefficient player who doesn't play any defense. I used to think RealGM as a whole had the smartest basketball fans on the internet, but now I tend to think otherwise.
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I don't really care if Booker gets in or not this year. He will be an all star if not for his scoring prowess then for his style, attitude and marketability.
I think he's got way more marketability than other all star level players like McCollum, Klay or Derozan etc
I think he's got way more marketability than other all star level players like McCollum, Klay or Derozan etc
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That god i was sitting down reading that filth
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Western Conference
Frontcourt
1. Kevin Durant (GSW) 1,326,059
2. Anthony Davis (NOP) 664,687
3. Draymond Green (GSW) 616,730
4. DeMarcus Cousins (NOP) 587,835
5. Paul George (OKC) 547,582
6. Kawhi Leonard (SAS) 446,133
7. Carmelo Anthony (OKC) 378,718
8. Kyle Kuzma (LAL) 325,903
9. Karl-Anthony Towns (MIN) 320,884
10. LaMarcus Aldridge (SAS) 315,918
Guards
1. Stephen Curry (GSW) 1,369,658
2. James Harden (HOU) 978,540
3. Russell Westbrook (OKC) 791,332
4. Klay Thompson (GSW) 686,825
5. Manu Ginobili (SAS) 657,827
6. Chris Paul (HOU) 331,522
7. Lonzo Ball (LAL) 294,197
8. Damian Lillard (POR) 266,519
9. Jimmy Butler (MIN) 173,245
10. Devin Booker (PHO) 162,970
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I don't think it's that easy to forget and I know Booker understands. It's people like Kris Hanson who perpetuate the idea he will get frustrated and leave...as if they may one day will it into existence.
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bwgood77 wrote:I don't think it's that easy to forget and I know Booker understands. It's people like Kris Hanson who perpetuate the idea he will get frustrated and leave...as if they may one day will it into existence.
I don't think Kris Hanson perpetuates it. I think this was brought up by others outside the fan base, or media such as Dan Bickley.
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In2ition wrote:bwgood77 wrote:I don't think it's that easy to forget and I know Booker understands. It's people like Kris Hanson who perpetuate the idea he will get frustrated and leave...as if they may one day will it into existence.
I don't think Kris Hanson perpetuates it. I think this was brought up by others outside the fan base, or media such as Dan Bickley.
Yeah, I've seen others mention it here and there..Broussard, Bickley, random people, but I see certain Suns fans talk about it repeatedly, which is what I mean by perpetuating it.
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Booker wants to win. This is surely surprising as we know the majority of players loves to lose games. But it is ridiculous to think he will get frustrated and will want to leave the team so soon. Was there ever a young star that gave up on his team so quick? Anyway he will be Suns for next few years at least.
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bwgood77 wrote:In2ition wrote:bwgood77 wrote:I don't think it's that easy to forget and I know Booker understands. It's people like Kris Hanson who perpetuate the idea he will get frustrated and leave...as if they may one day will it into existence.
I don't think Kris Hanson perpetuates it. I think this was brought up by others outside the fan base, or media such as Dan Bickley.
Yeah, I've seen others mention it here and there..Broussard, Bickley, random people, but I see certain Suns fans talk about it repeatedly, which is what I mean by perpetuating it.
Booker is saying all the right things. He seems to understand the plan in place but what happens if the plan doesn't come together 2, 3 seasons down the track and we still have issues making playoffs? Not saying he'll want to leave but he would be 5-6 seasons into his career after being shown what the Suns plan for playoffs is, I'm sure frustration will set in. It's natural, it's human.
There's good reason to be upbeat about making playoffs next season because we're probably a piece (PG) or two (C) away from putting together a team that could compete for a playoff spot so I'm not worried but there's always a real possibility that we continue to suck next season. Then the season after? Booker clearly sees playoffs as the next logical step and I just hope the rest of the team is ready to compete with him.
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lilfishi22 wrote:bwgood77 wrote:In2ition wrote:I don't think Kris Hanson perpetuates it. I think this was brought up by others outside the fan base, or media such as Dan Bickley.
Yeah, I've seen others mention it here and there..Broussard, Bickley, random people, but I see certain Suns fans talk about it repeatedly, which is what I mean by perpetuating it.
Booker is saying all the right things. He seems to understand the plan in place but what happens if the plan doesn't come together 2, 3 seasons down the track and we still have issues making playoffs? Not saying he'll want to leave but he would be 5-6 seasons into his career after being shown what the Suns plan for playoffs is, I'm sure frustration will set in. It's natural, it's human.
There's good reason to be upbeat about making playoffs next season because we're probably a piece (PG) or two (C) away from putting together a team that could compete for a playoff spot so I'm not worried but there's always a real possibility that we continue to suck next season. Then the season after? Booker clearly sees playoffs as the next logical step and I just hope the rest of the team is ready to compete with him.
This is on him too. Hopefully we draft someone who ends up better. If we can get someone like Young who is able to make Booker the 2nd best shooter and play maker it will take some pressure off him.
If Booker doesn't turn into a guy capable of leading the team somewhere perhaps he could want to join some players better than him to make things easier for him. I think he kind of has that alpha team mentality and will want to be one of the leaders of the next great Suns team though. Maybe you are right though, and he is the type to want to leave to find an easier path. I don't really see it in him though.
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It definitely is on him as well. But he also can't carry a team. He's no Lebron/Westbrook. My whole thing is that I think Booker is a legit (and productive) starter on almost all but the very top 2-3 playoff teams in the league right now. That's where I see him now but the rest of the team isn't there yet. Will it get there? I don't know. I hope so because I like homegrown organic talent as much as anyone on here. But I don't think anyone can look at the rest of the team and say, yes, this particular group of young guys will all develop into productive starters on a very good playoff team. They still could but for that to happen, McD would've had to be one of the best talent evaluators and for our coaches to be one of the best in player development in the league. I don't believe both statements to be fact.bwgood77 wrote:lilfishi22 wrote:bwgood77 wrote:
Yeah, I've seen others mention it here and there..Broussard, Bickley, random people, but I see certain Suns fans talk about it repeatedly, which is what I mean by perpetuating it.
Booker is saying all the right things. He seems to understand the plan in place but what happens if the plan doesn't come together 2, 3 seasons down the track and we still have issues making playoffs? Not saying he'll want to leave but he would be 5-6 seasons into his career after being shown what the Suns plan for playoffs is, I'm sure frustration will set in. It's natural, it's human.
There's good reason to be upbeat about making playoffs next season because we're probably a piece (PG) or two (C) away from putting together a team that could compete for a playoff spot so I'm not worried but there's always a real possibility that we continue to suck next season. Then the season after? Booker clearly sees playoffs as the next logical step and I just hope the rest of the team is ready to compete with him.
This is on him too. Hopefully we draft someone who ends up better. If we can get someone like Young who is able to make Booker the 2nd best shooter and play maker it will take some pressure off him.
If Booker doesn't turn into a guy capable of leading the team somewhere perhaps he could want to join some players better than him to make things easier for him. I think he kind of has that alpha team mentality and will want to be one of the leaders of the next great Suns team though. Maybe you are right though, and he is the type to want to leave to find an easier path. I don't really see it in him though.
A lot rest in this offseason, whether we draft right and whether we can bring in the right talent in free agency/trades.
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lilfishi22 wrote:It definitely is on him as well. But he also can't carry a team. He's no Lebron/Westbrook. My whole thing is that I think Booker is a legit (and productive) starter on almost all but the very top 2-3 playoff teams in the league right now. That's where I see him now but the rest of the team isn't there yet. Will it get there? I don't know. I hope so because I like homegrown organic talent as much as anyone on here. But I don't think anyone can look at the rest of the team and say, yes, this particular group of young guys will all develop into productive starters on a very good playoff team. They still could but for that to happen, McD would've had to be one of the best talent evaluators and for our coaches to be one of the best in player development in the league. I don't believe both statements to be fact.bwgood77 wrote:lilfishi22 wrote:Booker is saying all the right things. He seems to understand the plan in place but what happens if the plan doesn't come together 2, 3 seasons down the track and we still have issues making playoffs? Not saying he'll want to leave but he would be 5-6 seasons into his career after being shown what the Suns plan for playoffs is, I'm sure frustration will set in. It's natural, it's human.
There's good reason to be upbeat about making playoffs next season because we're probably a piece (PG) or two (C) away from putting together a team that could compete for a playoff spot so I'm not worried but there's always a real possibility that we continue to suck next season. Then the season after? Booker clearly sees playoffs as the next logical step and I just hope the rest of the team is ready to compete with him.
This is on him too. Hopefully we draft someone who ends up better. If we can get someone like Young who is able to make Booker the 2nd best shooter and play maker it will take some pressure off him.
If Booker doesn't turn into a guy capable of leading the team somewhere perhaps he could want to join some players better than him to make things easier for him. I think he kind of has that alpha team mentality and will want to be one of the leaders of the next great Suns team though. Maybe you are right though, and he is the type to want to leave to find an easier path. I don't really see it in him though.
A lot rest in this offseason, whether we draft right and whether we can bring in the right talent in free agency/trades.
We just really need to nail this draft pick. And I really think we need another floor spreader 1st or 2nd option offensively. I really think we need Doncic, Porter or Young. Ayton would be be an offensive big and get rebounds so he could be that other scoring option, and if he got better with range could be great. I worry about his motor some and defense but we need that other option.
But yes, of course our team needs to get better. No one is hoping we get worse. I don't know that we have the best assets at this point to make a big move....our picks don't look as good (except maybe our own future unprotected ones)...
Things would be looking good right now if we had that Lakers pick instead of Knight.
But yeah, I hope our team gets better soon not because I fear anything with Booker (other than him potentially not progressing defensively) but because I am tired of being a fan of a team that's bad.
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"I can't tell if he's the next coming of Kobe Bryant or just another Kevin Martin. I'm leaning towards Martin" - 1/17/18
"Mannnnn I’m like the guy that pissed this whole board off saying literally all year no Mikal, no Mikal in the KD trade."
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sunsbum wrote:"I can't tell if he's the next coming of Kobe Bryant or just another Kevin Martin. I'm leaning towards Martin" - 1/17/18
Who said that?
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That's pretty awesome. Not that players are always the best judge of talent but it sure seems that players are much higher on Devin than media talking heads.
I highly doubt he makes the all star team this year. It's brutal out west and it's really really hard to make it on a bad team. Plus it usually happens where a guys misses it the first year he should make it and then on the tail end of his career probably makes it one extra year on rep... kind of a one year behind type deal.
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Saberestar wrote:sunsbum wrote:"I can't tell if he's the next coming of Kobe Bryant or just another Kevin Martin. I'm leaning towards Martin" - 1/17/18
Who said that?
a blazer fan
"Mannnnn I’m like the guy that pissed this whole board off saying literally all year no Mikal, no Mikal in the KD trade."
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sunsbum wrote:Saberestar wrote:sunsbum wrote:"I can't tell if he's the next coming of Kobe Bryant or just another Kevin Martin. I'm leaning towards Martin" - 1/17/18
Who said that?
a blazer fan
The hate on Booker is incredible on ReaGM which tells me he is pretty darn good. The coaches and players speak highly of him. He dominates games with no supporting cast and is 21. He’d average 2-3 more assists a game if our guys could actually shoot.
He’ll be a top 10 player soon enough.